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Tropical Cyclone Reports for 2004 Atlantic season Thread

#1 Postby cycloneye » Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:19 pm

Let's see if we can post all the post season reports in one thread to not have many threads about the reports.Here you can find all the reports as soon they come out so check this thread every day.Also you can post an opinion about them.

Hurricane Alex report

http://ratfish.nhc.noaa.gov/2004alex.shtml?

Tropical Storm Bonnie report

http://ratfish.nhc.noaa.gov/2004bonnie.shtml?

Hurricane Charley Report

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2004charley.shtml?

Tropical Storm Earl report

http://ratfish.nhc.noaa.gov/2004earl.shtml?

Tropical Storm Hermine report

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2004hermine.shtml?
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#2 Postby cycloneye » Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:23 pm

I am waiting for the Jeanne report because when it entered Puerto Rico it may well be a 75 mph hurricane instead of a 70 mph storm.Observations in the SE part of the island had gusts of hurricane force 78-80 mph so let's see what they say about the Puerto Rico landfall intensity.
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#3 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:33 pm

Even though Cangialosi carried Jeanne as a hurricane across Puerto Rico (mainly to highlight the threat since 90% of the attention waas on Ivan, which was making landfall at the same time as was Jeanne), a post analysis and from what I have seen from best track shows that it was a tropical storm at PR.

The higher gusts were located in the mountains, where the winds are 20% higher than at 10m. Thus, hurricane winds sustained likely occurred in the mountains, but the system remained as a tropical storm
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#4 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:40 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:Even though Cangialosi carried Jeanne as a hurricane across Puerto Rico (mainly to highlight the threat since 90% of the attention waas on Ivan, which was making landfall at the same time as was Jeanne), a post analysis and from what I have seen from best track shows that it was a tropical storm at PR.

The higher gusts were located in the mountains, where the winds are 20% higher than at 10m. Thus, hurricane winds sustained likely occurred in the mountains, but the system remained as a tropical storm


Yes you may be right about the mountains increasing the data of winds but anyway we will find out soon officially what they will say in the report.About not telling the population about Jeanne being a hurricane at landfall I dont favor what the NWS did about not telling the truth about Jeanne being a cat 1 hurricane instead they said it was a storm creating the thinking here that nothing serious would happen because what I saw was people driving and many people in the malls.It would create a big panic here if they would be told a hurricane was going to make landfall that afternoon on september 15th.That is why I want to see the final report about Jeannes landfall in Puerto Rico to then know if it was a hurricane or a storm.
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Jeanne report only for Puerto Rico/Virgin islands

#5 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:04 pm

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/sju/jeanne.html

That report says possible it may have been a hurricane when it made landfall at Puerto Rico but let's wait for the final NHC report.
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#6 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:32 pm

I've seen the first best track already. While there have been changes made to the operational track, making Jeanne as a hurricane in Puerto Rico was not one of them. It was very, very close, but didnt quite make it and we over stated the intensity
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#7 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:48 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I've seen the first best track already. While there have been changes made to the operational track, making Jeanne as a hurricane in Puerto Rico was not one of them. It was very, very close, but didnt quite make it and we over stated the intensity


I think that when Jeanne was going to make landfall no recon was flying at that time that afternoon to measure those sustain winds to see the real deal here.It would be much better to have that data from them.
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#8 Postby cycloneye » Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:20 pm

Everyone is waiting with great anticipation what will the final report of Ivan will bring because of the long duration of that system but more the history that Ivan made in various times of it's life.I expect that the Ivan report will be one of the last ones to come out because of the many details they have to analize and that includes at what wind speed Ivan made landfall at the gulf coast.
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#9 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:15 pm

the best track has been completed for ivan. However, I have only seen the 6 hourly version and landfall occurred between the points so the landfall intensity is not certain, though it appears as if marginal to moderate cat 3 is what is going to be used, somewhat to my dismay
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#10 Postby cycloneye » Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:55 pm

Apart from the landfall intensity at the gulf coast I am interested to see what the Ivan report will say about the highest wind data at Gran Cayman where the northern eyewall passed.
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#11 Postby Anonymous » Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:23 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:the best track has been completed for ivan. However, I have only seen the 6 hourly version and landfall occurred between the points so the landfall intensity is not certain, though it appears as if marginal to moderate cat 3 is what is going to be used, somewhat to my dismay


Thats 120-125 mph....seems about right. Your dismay? I thought you said you THOUGHT it was a marginal category 3.
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#12 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:50 pm

I'd like to see the intensity at landfall to be in the 90-100KT range, which is what many of us at work also tend to believe
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#13 Postby Anonymous » Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:59 pm

Frances was 95 kt....Ivan was stronger than Frances. 105 kt I think. Because winds were 130 mph right at the coast, then 115 mph after moving inland. So, 120 mph.
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#14 Postby Hurricanehink » Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:41 am

Man, I still wish they would separate Ivan to two storms. I am still in the club that Ivan 2 was a separate entity. They should have main Ivan, and an Unnamed Tropical Storm. Likewise with the wave behind Lisa that 'was absorbed' by Lisa. Oh well. Maybe they still can change it later.
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#15 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:12 pm

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#16 Postby Andrew92 » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:21 pm

Well the maximum winds were 50 KT, a little stronger than previously thought. But still, nothing major. No damage or deaths attributed to Hermine.

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#17 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:22 pm

Andrew92 wrote:Well the maximum winds were 50 KT, a little stronger than previously thought. But still, nothing major. No damage or deaths attributed to Hermine.

-Andrew92


Agree nothing important about this storm.
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#18 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:35 pm



Hurricane Alex report

http://ratfish.nhc.noaa.gov/2004alex.shtml?

Tropical Storm Bonnie report

http://ratfish.nhc.noaa.gov/2004bonnie.shtml?

Hurricane Charley Report

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2004charley.shtml?

Tropical Storm Earl report

http://ratfish.nhc.noaa.gov/2004earl.shtml?

Tropical Storm Hermine report

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2004hermine.shtml?

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#19 Postby James » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:37 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Andrew92 wrote:Well the maximum winds were 50 KT, a little stronger than previously thought. But still, nothing major. No damage or deaths attributed to Hermine.

-Andrew92


Agree nothing important about this storm.


Yes, Bonnie had the potential to be something big, but luckily that potential was never fulfilled.
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#20 Postby cycloneye » Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:40 pm

James wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
Andrew92 wrote:Well the maximum winds were 50 KT, a little stronger than previously thought. But still, nothing major. No damage or deaths attributed to Hermine.

-Andrew92


Agree nothing important about this storm.


Yes, Bonnie had the potential to be something big, but luckily that potential was never fulfilled.


James we were talking about Hermine not Bonnie. :)
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