Nothing here yet.... (Houston)

Yankeegirl · #1 Postby **Yankeegirl** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:43 pm

Well I woke up to sunny skies this morning... I am just sitting here wondering when the bad weather is going to start... I guess its good to have a break, and let the flood waters go down as much as they can... The local met said maybe around rush hour it will get bad... Who knows... I am ready for the chilly weather! If this is the price we have to pay, then so be it... Well when it starts getting dicey, Ill let you all know... This is why I made a new topic... People all over the Houston area can let everyone know what is going on...

So far, so good...
BTW-- its 12:43 pm cst

Lisa

HouTXmetro · #2 Postby **HouTXmetro** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:51 pm

Checking in from work here. I'm on the east side of town off Interstate 10 in the Galena Park/Northshore area. We experienced a brief Thunderstorm this morning with high winds, lightning, and heavy rain. It lasted for about 10 minutes. The sun came our afterwards, it has since retreated.

12:20pm

East Houston

#3 Postby **vbhoutex** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:01 pm

Partly cloudy and windy here in SW/W Houston Gessner/Westheimer area. I DO NOT like the way the radar looks of to the NW-definite hook in the storm N of Bryan where my nephew is!! That all will swing in this way later this afternoon and evening unless the current set up changes substantially. I hope I am wrong, but ALL of my sources tell me otherwise. At least there will be some time for some of the water to drain off.

HouTXmetro · #4 Postby **HouTXmetro** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:07 pm

Yeah, that rain is trying to infiltrate it's way back down to Houston. I thought we are suppose to experience 2 rounds of storms from seperate systems?

#5 Postby **vbhoutex** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:31 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:Yeah, that rain is trying to infiltrate it's way back down to Houston. I thought we are suppose to experience 2 rounds of storms from seperate systems?

Definitely is a possibility. Some of it depends on when and where the surface low develops and how far North of here it tracks. It will be trailing a cold front which should bring in a squall line later this evening. The atmosphere is also ripe for the development of supercells which could come through prior to the expected squall line. The further North all of this develops, the better off we are here in SE TX.

JenBayles · #6 Postby **JenBayles** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:40 pm

I'm getting concerned about Addicks Reservoir. Along Eldridge the water is within a foot or so over coming over the road. Hiway 6 doesn't look much better. Even without additional rainfall in the watershed northwest of the reservoir, road closures from current runoff are a distinct possibility. Those 2 roads are heavily traveled out here on the westside. Last time it happened my commute went from 15 minutes to 90 minutes.

JenBayles · #7 Postby **JenBayles** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:42 pm

Here we go.... this just in north of Houston proper...

Tornado Warning
TXC339-407-231945-

SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
140 PM CST TUE NOV 23 2004

...A TORNADO WARNING CONTINUES FOR MONTGOMERY AND SAN JACINTO
COUNTIES UNTIL 145 PM CST...

* AT 133 PM CST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED
A TORNADO NEAR HIGHWAY 150 JUST SOUTHEAST OF COLDSPRING. THIS
TORNADO WAS MOVING NORTHEAST AT 25 MPH.

THIS TORNADO WILL APPROACH THE LAKE LIVINGSTON DAM AREA BY 145 PM
CST.

PLEASE REPORT SEVERE WEATHER TO THE COUNTY SHERIFF...LOCAL POLICE...
OR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THEY WILL RELAY YOUR REPORT TO THE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 300 PM CST TUESDAY AFTERNOON
FOR SOUTHEAST TEXAS. A TORNADO WATCH ALSO REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 300
PM CST TUESDAY AFTERNOON FOR SOUTHEAST TEXAS.

Yankeegirl · #8 Postby **Yankeegirl** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:00 pm

Well I just got back from running an errand... Barker Cypress and Saums is underwater still with a Blazer stuck half way underwater.. I wish the kids didnt break my didital camera! I also drove over Addicks and HW6.. The water is just about up to the top, and the golf course is underwater... also Patton rd. off of hw 6 near the harris county fairgrounds is underwater... As I can see it, right now the clouds are very dark to the north, and it is VERY windy out... also very humid...

Everyone here in Houston keep safe, and Ill report later on...

Lisa

yoda · #9 Postby **yoda** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:05 pm

Just as a heads up, expect that TW to be re-issued for you guys.. so stay safe down there!

Johnny · #10 Postby **Johnny** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:11 pm

As of now, most of the activity looks to be points Northwest, North and Northeast of the Houston area. Lots of tornado warnings and severe weather warnings out. So far so good where I am near the Beltway and I-45N. It's 2:15 p.m.

Johnny · #11 Postby **Johnny** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:19 pm

The 'TORNADO WATCH' has been upgraded to 9 p.m. tonight. This isn't look too good.

GMZ335-355-TXZ163-164-176>179-195>200-210>214-226-227-235>238-240300-
AUSTIN-BRAZORIA-BRAZOS-BURLESON-CHAMBERS-COLORADO-FORT BEND-GALVESTON-
GALVESTON BAY-GRIMES-HARRIS-HOUSTON-JACKSON-LIBERTY-MADISON-MATAGORDA-
MONTGOMERY-POLK-SAN JACINTO-TRINITY-WALKER-WALLER-WASHINGTON-
WATERS FROM HIGH ISLAND TO FREEPORT OUT 20 NM-WHARTON-
206 PM CST TUE NOV 23 2004

...TORNADO WATCH EXTENDED UNTIL 9 PM FOR ALL OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS...

THE STORM PREDICTION CENTER IN NORMAN OKLAHOMA HAS EXTENDED THE
TORNADO WATCH FOR ALL OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS UNTIL 9 PM. AN UPPER LEVEL
TROUGH WILL BEGIN TO AFFECT THE AREA OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS AND ALLOW
THUNDERSTORMS TO DEVELOP. WIND FIELDS REMAIN FAVORABLE FOR ISOLATED
TORNADO DEVELOPMENT.

IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS...THE COUNTIES INCLUDED IN THE WATCH ARE AUSTIN...
BRAZORIA...BRAZOS...BURLESON...CHAMBERS...COLORADO...FORT BEND...
GALVESTON...GRIMES...HARRIS...HOUSTON...JACKSON...LIBERTY...MADISON...
MATAGORDA...MONTGOMERY...POLK...SAN JACINTO...TRINITY...WALKER...
WALLER...WASHINGTON...GALVESTON BAY...AND THE GULF WATERS FROM HIGH
ISLAND TO FREEPORT OUT TO 20 NM.

STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO OR OTHER WEATHER NEWS SOURCES FOR
FURTHER WEATHER UPDATES TODAY.

yoda · #12 Postby **yoda** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:19 pm

Those that live near or in Houston, note that you are now under a PDS TORNADO WATCH. PLEASE STAY SAFE!!!

JenBayles · #13 Postby **JenBayles** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:20 pm

Johnny wrote:As of now, most of the activity looks to be points Northwest, North and Northeast of the Houston area. Lots of tornado warnings and severe weather warnings out. So far so good where I am near the Beltway and I-45N. It's 2:15 p.m.

Hey Johnny - how are the bayous looking up your way? We're near Horsepen creek near Addicks-Satsuma and W. Little York. Yesterday, for the first time we've seen in 12 years, the creek cames out of its banks for a brief time. Won't take much to really get it rolling again, at which time our house is in jeopardy. Oh well, at least we have flood insurance...

JenBayles · #14 Postby **JenBayles** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:23 pm

yoda wrote:Those that live near or in Houston, note that you are now under a PDS TORNADO WATCH. PLEASE STAY SAFE!!!

<squeaks softly so not too many people can hear ignorant question> What's the difference between a regular TW and a PDS TW?

Yankeegirl · #15 Postby **Yankeegirl** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:26 pm

Id like to know the differnce too... between a reg TW and a PDS TW?

Yankeegirl · #16 Postby **Yankeegirl** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:27 pm

I found it...

THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION...

PDS

yoda · #17 Postby **yoda** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:34 pm

JenBayles wrote:
yoda wrote:Those that live near or in Houston, note that you are now under a PDS TORNADO WATCH. PLEASE STAY SAFE!!!

<squeaks softly so not too many people can hear ignorant question> What's the difference between a regular TW and a PDS TW?

Its alright JenBayles. We are all here to learn!

In a regular Tornado Watch, tornadoes are possible, but likely to be F2's or below.

In a PDS Tornado Watch, there means a dangerous situation. Parameters are in place for violent and destructive tornadoes. PDS stands for PARTICULARY DANGEROUS SITUATION. USUALLY, BUT NOT ALWAYS, this is when F4 and 5's occur.

This type of watch is issued when the Lead Forecaster feels there is a high chance of F2 to F3 or greater tornadoes.

In addition... from: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/#2.7

I noticed the wording "THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION" in some of your watches. What does this mean?
The "particularly dangerous situation" wording is used in rare situations when long-lived, strong and violent tornadoes are possible. This enhanced wording may also accompany severe thunderstorm watches for intense convective wind storms.

Johnny · #18 Postby **Johnny** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:37 pm

Hey Jen, my office is about 300 yards down from Greens Bayou which is prone to flooding. My office building has been flooded out twice since we moved in here back in October of 2002. Late yesterday evening it was about 6 feet from coming over it's banks but has resided alot since then. That could change pretty quick though. It doesn't take much to get Greens Bayou up in its banks. Take care and be safe.

Johnny

Website · #19 Postby **Brent** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:55 pm

YankeeGirl wrote:I found it...

THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION...

PDS

AKA... kiss your tail goodbye. :wink:

Everytime there's been a PDS in this state we've always had multiple violent tornadoes. :eek:

#20 Postby **vbhoutex** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:02 pm

Still looking pretty good for Houston proper, but those to our North and East definitely need to batten down the hatches. This is a developing situation and could also change quickly for the Houston Metro area even though radar is not indicating that at this time. Areas to our North and East are currently under the gun with major developing super cells evident and/or probable. It is going to be a rough ride for East TX, West LA and SW AR for a good while!!!

Just had a brief but strong shower here in W/SW Houston.

EVERYONE BE SAFE!!

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