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Baby formula, Vanilla extract = legal drugs

#1 Postby hurricanedude » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:13 pm

(Special Investigation, November 30th, 2004, 6:37 a.m.) A number of kids in Hampton Roads are turning to cheaper, legal alternatives when it comes to drug use. And believe it or not, what they are using is affecting the way you shop at your local grocery store. Your NewsChannel 3's Chris Hopkins has the details inside this story.

Shopping at the grocery store is becoming a challenge for many folks who are looking for simple items to pick up. Things like baby formula, NyQuil, or just a small bottle of vanilla extract. So, what's at the bottom of these products being removed from the shelves and put behind the customer service desk? A high theft rate is responsible.

It seems teens are using these items to get high. It used to be when you went to the grocery store, everything you wanted was right there for you to pick up off the shelf and put into your shopping cart. That's no longer true. Kids are using things like vanilla extract to get high. Erma Banks is a grandmother of four, and now she says she is worried about sending her grandson to the store to do some shopping for her. "I'm concerned, because that means there are things hidden in things that I would send him to the store to pick up, not knowing that he would want to use it for that."

And it's not just vanilla extract that's being removed from the shelves. Grocery stores all over Hampton Roads are removing a number of items because they are being swiped in huge numbers. Either from kids using them to get high or by drug dealers. For instance, baby formula is being removed because drug dealers are using it to make Crack and Crystal Meth. NyQuil is disappearing from the shelves because kids are stealing it and drinking the entire bottle to "catch a buzz."

We spoke to Jeffrey Burns, a drug counselor in Virginia Beach. He spends a lot of time online looking for substances that kids are chatting about, and sometimes abusing. Those items include not only vanilla extract and NyQuil but hair spray. The pump hair spray is about 50% alcohol. And kids are drinking it, not sniffing it. Stores are also removing other over the counter medications such as Coracidin and Sudafed. Because they're not controlled, kids can buy them. And you can buy them 24 hours a day if you can get to the store.

The attraction is, they are not very expensive. So, just how many more items can stores keep controlled behind the shelf? Store owners say not many more. In fact, some stores are coming up with spring locked shelves to cut down on theft rates among the smaller ticket items.

Other items being removed from the shelves include Crest Whitening Strips, Razor Blades, and even facial creams such as Noxzema and Oil of Olay.



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#2 Postby kevin » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:29 pm

Holy crap!

All I can say is, when the brain drain stops, America isn't going to be able to compete. Drinking NyQuil... the youth in America are brainless gnats. No, they won't grow pot anymore, took much work, got to steal NyQuil.

I hope they fry all their braincells, or at least become unable to produce offspring. So stupid, freaking vanilla extract... my god...

My peers can't even fail correctly.
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#3 Postby hurricanedude » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:37 pm

I swear, kids today are aoutragious...I really feel bad for the newborns from here on out, the world is going to POT!!!...LITERALLY
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#4 Postby GalvestonDuck » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:54 pm

All I can say is I hope when I'm older, I'm still able to function well enough so I won't have to be in a nursing home, if this is how the younger generation is growing up. There won't be enough doctors, nurses, and physical therapists around to take care of my generation because they'll all grow up to be slackers and thieves.
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#5 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:33 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:All I can say is I hope when I'm older, I'm still able to function well enough so I won't have to be in a nursing home, if this is how the younger generation is growing up. There won't be enough doctors, nurses, and physical therapists around to take care of my generation because they'll all grow up to be slackers and thieves.


Hey dont look at me. Im not doing it :eek:
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#6 Postby alicia-w » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:55 pm

baby formula? you can get high on that? you've gotta be kidding...
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#7 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:58 pm

alicia-w wrote:baby formula? you can get high on that? you've gotta be kidding...


I would guess not. That is just wild to me. :eek:
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#8 Postby GalvestonDuck » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:59 pm

alicia-w wrote:baby formula? you can get high on that? you've gotta be kidding...


Last I heard it wasn't the formula that was being used, but the cans (as a means of transporting it).
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#9 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:00 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:
alicia-w wrote:baby formula? you can get high on that? you've gotta be kidding...


Last I heard it wasn't the formula that was being used, but the cans (as a means of transporting it).


Oh ok....I thought it was the formula too that was being used. Thanks for telling us that it was the cans.
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#10 Postby alicia-w » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:25 pm

whew! what a relief! the last thing I need is a stoned grandkid!
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#11 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:25 pm

alicia-w wrote:whew! what a relief! the last thing I need is a stoned grandkid!


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#12 Postby The Big Dog » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:31 pm

For instance, baby formula is being removed because drug dealers are using it to make Crack and Crystal Meth.

What I'd like to know is... who sits around and figures this stuff out?
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#13 Postby hurricanedude » Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:01 pm

actually not the can to ship it in...thats not the purpose ...the baby formula itself....and yes the powder...can be used to make crystal meth.....mixed with all the other stuff.....the effect is the same and a fraction of the cost...so druggies can sell crystal at top dollar because no one knows its mixed with baby formula..thus big profit for druggies
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#14 Postby kevin » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:06 pm

If only we had industry for these bright minds to design things for.
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#15 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:36 pm

kevin wrote:If only we had industry for these bright minds to design things for.


LOL.
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#16 Postby hurricanedude » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:48 pm

there is....its called JAIL/PRISON
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#17 Postby sunny » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:50 pm

hurricanedude wrote:there is....its called JAIL/PRISON


oh, yeah
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#18 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:12 pm

hurricanedude wrote:there is....its called JAIL/PRISON


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#19 Postby Persepone » Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:35 pm

Hate to tell you, but people have been abusing vanilla extract since the turn of the century... lots of other stuff as well.

And I suspect that the rate of abuse is not what is going up either. There are SOME young people who abuse substances, who seek out substances to abuse, etc. And the substances may change depending upon availability, etc. But I think that as a percentage of the population, these substances abusers are a relatively small percentage (and a fairly constant percentage) ofthe population--and it is dangerous to tar all young people with the same brush...

The vast majority of young people do NOT sniff glue, drink vanilla, etc. etc. Just as the vast majority of the 60s generation, 70s generation, 80s generation, or whichever generation you belong to did not grow up to be potheads, alcoholics, etc.

Back in the 1900s, CocaCola contained alcohol and cocaine! Hence its name. And there were all sorts of syrups, etc. out there that contained alcohol, cocaine and other similar "drugs." However, most of your grandparents and great grandparents were not cocaine addicts.

And for you babies of the 1940s, 1950s and early 1960s whose parents gave you paragoric (spelling?) It is a serious drug related to opium, I believe? So are you out in an opium den these days?

What has changed is that there is more publicity given to the few--and perhaps the media is to blame for a lot of this--and the pseudo-reality shows that hype bad behavior and deviant sociopaths and make it look as those the behavior is widespread and growing.

Shame on the grocery stores. This is a ploy to highlight the "shrinkage" issue, to allow them to raise prices, and to push product. By making it appear that these products are or might become "scarce," they can stimulate a demand. How many of you reading this will go out and buy "extra" vanilla "just in case" when you buy for this year's Christmas baking? They have persuaded you that there may be an availability problem... When they raise the prices, you will buy anyway because they've convinced you that there is a "reason" for the price increase other than greed, etc.

I don't think any of this stuff is "new" and I suspect that the shrinkage is fairly constant on these products, but the merchants in Hampton Rhoads have figured out a marketing ploy...

Notice, however, that when the stores target a product like this, suddenly there are horrific price increases because people believe their propaganda and believe that the stuff needs special handling, etc. Limiting availability of a product stimulates demand. Economics 101.
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#20 Postby Wnghs2007 » Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:37 pm

Persepone wrote:Hate to tell you, but people have been abusing vanilla extract since the turn of the century... lots of other stuff as well.

And I suspect that the rate of abuse is not what is going up either. There are SOME young people who abuse substances, who seek out substances to abuse, etc. And the substances may change depending upon availability, etc. But I think that as a percentage of the population, these substances abusers are a relatively small percentage (and a fairly constant percentage) ofthe population--and it is dangerous to tar all young people with the same brush...

The vast majority of young people do NOT sniff glue, drink vanilla, etc. etc. Just as the vast majority of the 60s generation, 70s generation, 80s generation, or whichever generation you belong to did not grow up to be potheads, alcoholics, etc.

Back in the 1900s, CocaCola contained alcohol and cocaine! Hence its name. And there were all sorts of syrups, etc. out there that contained alcohol, cocaine and other similar "drugs." However, most of your grandparents and great grandparents were not cocaine addicts.

And for you babies of the 1940s, 1950s and early 1960s whose parents gave you paragoric (spelling?) It is a serious drug related to opium, I believe? So are you out in an opium den these days?

What has changed is that there is more publicity given to the few--and perhaps the media is to blame for a lot of this--and the pseudo-reality shows that hype bad behavior and deviant sociopaths and make it look as those the behavior is widespread and growing.

Shame on the grocery stores. This is a ploy to highlight the "shrinkage" issue, to allow them to raise prices, and to push product. By making it appear that these products are or might become "scarce," they can stimulate a demand. How many of you reading this will go out and buy "extra" vanilla "just in case" when you buy for this year's Christmas baking? They have persuaded you that there may be an availability problem... When they raise the prices, you will buy anyway because they've convinced you that there is a "reason" for the price increase other than greed, etc.

I don't think any of this stuff is "new" and I suspect that the shrinkage is fairly constant on these products, but the merchants in Hampton Rhoads have figured out a marketing ploy...

Notice, however, that when the stores target a product like this, suddenly there are horrific price increases because people believe their propaganda and believe that the stuff needs special handling, etc. Limiting availability of a product stimulates demand. Economics 101.


EEK...Thats not good.
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