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#1 Postby air360 » Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:56 pm

Could someone please explain in simple terms what all the possibilities of this storm system late this weekend and next week could be and why. Like, could someone please put it in the form of "if this low goes here then it looks like Virginia to New york will be getting this storm...If this low goes here then NC and SC would get the storm.." etc etc. I have been reading all these posts but have yet been able to figure out exactly what people are saying could happen...all i have been able to understand is that there is something big coming for someone on the east coast...what are the different theorys looking like?
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#2 Postby Miss Mary » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:43 pm

I'll bump this up b/c I wish forecasts were like this for ME!

I get lost in all the Met terminology.....LOL

Mary
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#3 Postby Anonymous » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:57 pm

Models are trying to figure out what this storm is going to do this weekend. It's still about four days out.

I have read on numerous weather boards that this weekend's storm might bring a little snow to the central and northern Mid Atlantic, but it is looking more like the storm will be bringing snow mainly to the Northeast, places like Maine.

Models are hinting at another storm around Christmas Day that may hit the Mid Atlantic and Northeast but caution is advised here (i.e., that storm is still 13 days out, that's a LONG WAY OUT in time).

At any rate, it is getting much colder in the East and in east Texas for the time being. Next week it will get colder still, with possibly more storms.

-Jeb
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#4 Postby AggieSpirit » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:00 pm

A lot of the terminology like 'bombogenesis' throws me off too.

I think I have somehow deciphered what people here are saying though.

Basically, nearly everywhere east of the rockies is probably going to be much colder than normal next week, and it seems likely that there will be at least 1, if not, a series of significant storms associated with the arctic air funnelling southward and encountering waves of instability. The only question seems to be amount of available moisture these upper level disturbances have to squeeze out.
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#5 Postby Anonymous » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:09 pm

Yeah, bombogenesis is a big word. It's weatherese for rapidly developing storm.

When weathermen refer to storms that are undergoing 'bombogenesis', they mean the storm in question is rapidly developing, developing high winds and heavy rain and/or snow.

With respect to tropical development, those of you down south near the Gulf of Mexico and in Florida will know what 'explosive deepening' is. The term, 'explosive deepening' refers to rapid development of a tropical cyclone such as a tropical storm or hurricane.

Bombogenesis = rapid deepening or development of a mid-latitude storm, such as a nor'easter.

Explosive deepening = rapid deepening or development of a warm-core tropical system such as a tropical storm or hurricane.


-Jeb
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#6 Postby bostonweatherman » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:16 pm

DT has 4 maps on it... http://wxrisk.com/SECS/summary.htm


I'm in Boston... looks like I'm gettin MECS no matter which solution...

Here's hoping for HECS!
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#7 Postby Anonymous » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:20 pm

bostonweatherman wrote:DT has 4 maps on it... http://wxrisk.com/SECS/summary.htm


I'm in Boston... looks like I'm gettin MECS no matter which solution...

Here's hoping for HECS!



I'm jealous. We'll wait patiently here in the Mid Atlantic, and if we don't get the snow we'll be fine. :)

But, I AM jealous, because BOS will be CLOBBERED!! Enjoy it!

-Jeb
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#8 Postby Chris the Weather Man » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:24 pm

I could see either SECS/MECS.. BUT of course, I would love to get the HECS! :P
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#9 Postby nystate » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:25 pm

Great...all four of his options completely miss Watertown. :(
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#10 Postby bostonweatherman » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:28 pm

Jeb wrote:
bostonweatherman wrote:DT has 4 maps on it... http://wxrisk.com/SECS/summary.htm


I'm in Boston... looks like I'm gettin MECS no matter which solution...

Here's hoping for HECS!



I'm jealous. We'll wait patiently here in the Mid Atlantic, and if we don't get the snow we'll be fine. :)

But, I AM jealous, because BOS will be CLOBBERED!! Enjoy it!

-Jeb


Thanks... I'm personally hoping for HECS option 4... I have a feeling we'll be measuring this one in feet! :D
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#11 Postby Chris the Weather Man » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:31 pm

bostonweatherman wrote:
Jeb wrote:
bostonweatherman wrote:DT has 4 maps on it... http://wxrisk.com/SECS/summary.htm


I'm in Boston... looks like I'm gettin MECS no matter which solution...

Here's hoping for HECS!



I'm jealous. We'll wait patiently here in the Mid Atlantic, and if we don't get the snow we'll be fine. :)

But, I AM jealous, because BOS will be CLOBBERED!! Enjoy it!

-Jeb


Thanks... I'm personally hoping for HECS option 4... I have a feeling we'll be measuring this one in feet! :D



Option 3 would make everyone happy! Looks like the Blizzard of 1978, or 1996.... lol. And Back here, in 1978, my grandpa said we got over 22" inches of snow here! :wink:
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#12 Postby Anonymous » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:31 pm

nystate wrote:Great...all four of his options completely miss Watertown. :(


Yeah nystate, you folks get snowed in by FEET of Lake Effect snow! :)

Even when the pattern changes back to mild and zonal, you're region will still be severely glaciated.

You have at least four more months of snow and cold ahead. If this little piddly storm misses you this weekend, you'll still get slammed all winter! :)

You LUCKY DOG!!! You get Lake Effect AND synoptic snows four to five months out of the year! :)

Enjoy it! :)

-Jeb
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#13 Postby yoda » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:32 pm

bostonweatherman wrote:
Jeb wrote:
bostonweatherman wrote:DT has 4 maps on it... http://wxrisk.com/SECS/summary.htm


I'm in Boston... looks like I'm gettin MECS no matter which solution...

Here's hoping for HECS!



I'm jealous. We'll wait patiently here in the Mid Atlantic, and if we don't get the snow we'll be fine. :)

But, I AM jealous, because BOS will be CLOBBERED!! Enjoy it!

-Jeb


Thanks... I'm personally hoping for HECS option 4... I have a feeling
we'll be measuring this one in feet! :D


I would not mind seeing Option 3 or 4.... :grrr:
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#14 Postby Chris the Weather Man » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:33 pm

IF we get it..2'-3' of snow....... :lol: :)
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#15 Postby Anonymous » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:33 pm

bostonweatherman wrote:
Jeb wrote:
bostonweatherman wrote:DT has 4 maps on it... http://wxrisk.com/SECS/summary.htm


I'm in Boston... looks like I'm gettin MECS no matter which solution...

Here's hoping for HECS!



I'm jealous. We'll wait patiently here in the Mid Atlantic, and if we don't get the snow we'll be fine. :)

But, I AM jealous, because BOS will be CLOBBERED!! Enjoy it!

-Jeb


Thanks... I'm personally hoping for HECS option 4... I have a feeling we'll be measuring this one in feet! :D


Hey BOS, I hope you've got that snowblower in tip-top shape! You're gonna need it!!

-Jeb
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#16 Postby yoda » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:34 pm

Chris the Weather Man wrote:IF we get it..2'-3' of snow....... :lol: :)


Then we better see at least a foot.... :grrr: :grrr:
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#17 Postby bostonweatherman » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:35 pm

yoda wrote:
bostonweatherman wrote:
Jeb wrote:
bostonweatherman wrote:DT has 4 maps on it... http://wxrisk.com/SECS/summary.htm


I'm in Boston... looks like I'm gettin MECS no matter which solution...

Here's hoping for HECS!



I'm jealous. We'll wait patiently here in the Mid Atlantic, and if we don't get the snow we'll be fine. :)

But, I AM jealous, because BOS will be CLOBBERED!! Enjoy it!

-Jeb


Thanks... I'm personally hoping for HECS option 4... I have a feeling
we'll be measuring this one in feet! :D


I would not mind seeing Option 3 or 4.... :grrr:


true... either would be great!

BTW, has anyone seen the 18z GFS... the low bottoms out at 968MB!!!

This is gonna be fun!
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#18 Postby Miss Mary » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:36 pm

Jeb - thanks for your replies. Not that I live in the region in question, but it is interesting to follow.

Sometimes I think we need a thread for us lay people - you know, something like Wx Forecasting for Dummies!!!

Mary
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#19 Postby Anonymous » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:37 pm

Miss Mary wrote:Jeb - thanks for your replies. Not that I live in the region in question, but it is interesting to follow.

Sometimes I think we need a thread for us lay people - you know, something like Wx Forecasting for Dummies!!!

Mary


Thanks Miss Mary, I am a weather weenie beginner too LOL! :)

-Jeb
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#20 Postby Anonymous » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:38 pm

bostonweatherman wrote:
yoda wrote:
bostonweatherman wrote:
Jeb wrote:
bostonweatherman wrote:DT has 4 maps on it... http://wxrisk.com/SECS/summary.htm


I'm in Boston... looks like I'm gettin MECS no matter which solution...

Here's hoping for HECS!



I'm jealous. We'll wait patiently here in the Mid Atlantic, and if we don't get the snow we'll be fine. :)

But, I AM jealous, because BOS will be CLOBBERED!! Enjoy it!

-Jeb


Thanks... I'm personally hoping for HECS option 4... I have a feeling
we'll be measuring this one in feet! :D


I would not mind seeing Option 3 or 4.... :grrr:


true... either would be great!

BTW, has anyone seen the 18z GFS... the low bottoms out at 968MB!!!

This is gonna be fun!


WHOA BOS!!! Now I AM JEALOUS!! 968MB!!! Get that snowblower ready!! You're gonna need it!!!

-Jeb
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