The Misery May Be Over Soon...

[aveosmth]

As portions of the Deep South and Eastern seaboard prepare for snow....we in California have been "enduring" temps in the high 70s and even in to the 80s during most of December....but Josh, Tornado_Chaser, AzSnowman, Aslkahuna, and the rest of us out there, there may be some significant changes next week....

LONG TERM...CHRISTMAS WEEKEND LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER WINNER WITH MILD
DAYTIME TEMPS. STILL SOME LOCALLY GUSTY OFFSHORE WINDS POSSIBLE
SATURDAY, ESPECIALLY IN LA/VTU COUNTIES. HIGH CLOUDS FROM A PACIFIC
STORM WILL DRIFT OVERHEAD SUNDAY AND TEMPS WILL BE A LITTLE COOLER
BUT STILL VERY PLEASANT FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. THE BIG NEWS IN THE
EXTENDED IS THE EXTREMELY COLD ARCTIC PATTERN DEVELOPING EARLY TO
MID NEXT WEEK. GFS SHOWS A 521 LOW NEAR PT CONCEPTION NEXT TUESDAY
WITH 526 THICKNESSES OVER LA. THE GFS OFTEN WAY OVERDOES THESE
PATTERNS THIS FAR OUT SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUMP ON IT JUST YET, BUT
IT WILL BE SOMETHING TO WATCH THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.

[weatherlover427]

You know no one will reply. The only posts in here right now are from the Southerners going zOMGoodness!!!111oneoneone ballistic over the prospects of a white Christmas while we incincerate with 85 degree temperatures and 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% humidity.

[W13]

California is going to get the Arctic outbreak that is headed for Western Washington this coming Sunday/Monday. I can't wait, since this looks to be our first big potential snow event of the season.

[aveosmth]

I'm going to be in Seattle from Friday till Sunday....I'm watching that outbreak very closely...I hope I'm not stranded at Sea-Tac....

[Steve]

>>You know no one will reply. The only posts in here right now are from the Southerners going zOMGoodness!!!111oneoneone ballistic over the prospects of a white Christmas while we incincerate with 85 degree temperatures and 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% humidity.

That's pretty lame Josh. Hardly anyone is xoxoxo111 ing anything. There are a few, but most of us are just hoping for a white Christmas. If you live in Southern California, you pretty much know what the weather is going to be at all times (especially the further south you go). If you want changes, you only have to drive about 2 hours in any direction to get what you want - or you could always move .

Steve

[wx247]

The Wichita, KS AFD this afternoon made a note of this as well!!! It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[aveosmth]

The 18Z GFS just looks perfect for some wild weather on Monday night and Tuesday morning....we have a high pressure ridge up in the Pacific Northwest bringing down tons of cold air from British Columbia....the ridge is also forcing a strong and very cold system down from the Great Basin...there is also a low sitting over Utah which will draw more cold air into the area....the impulse coming through on Monday night looks very strong w/excellent vorticity...if this were to verify, this would initally bring moderate to heavy rain...and then on the backside of the storm very low snow levels....im talking like 1500 feet or so....now to the problems...the GFS has been wildly inconsisent with this storm...almost to the point of insanity....secondly even if consistency improves we are still very far out (6-7 day range). Aslkahuna, this is just about exactly the setup you described to me about 3 months ago...and the storm of 49' had an almost identical setup....but that storm was stronger and from my estimates even colder....please let it verify!!!!!

[Brent]

Ummmmmmm.... Has L.A. ever had snow(the city)?

[weatherlover427]

Ummmmmmm.... Has L.A. ever had snow(the city)?

Actually some coastal areas of CA HAVE seen snow, and yes I have witnessed it on a rare occasion or two. I've lived here for 21 years, so I know the weather paterns in this area very well.

And Steve, sorry if I sounded like I was insulting you, or anyone else for that matter. But we here in the West have been in what seems like a perpetual drought for many years now, and everyone east of the Rockies has had tons of rain and excessive storms this year alone just about. It's our turn to get some weather for a change, and it is bugging me that we aren't getting anything over here for almost 3 weeks now.

[Steve]

It's all good. I was just bagging on you a little. I was in the San Fernando Valley when it snowed in the winter of 1987. It didn't snow in Studio City, but you could see the snow across the Valley in the San Gabriel Mts. That was unreal according to the natives. I think it snowed in Glendale and some of the valley cities, but it was just cold and damp on Bluffside Dr. (near Vineland & Ventura).

Steve

[sertorius]

Joshua21Young:

Good luck to you out there-our upcomming weather is indicative of your ideas. The GFS is bringing this trough out really fast, but now is slowing it down. Our AFD's are not even looking at the GFS but the EURO which has us fairly warm next week. Also, our weather here has been the same the past 3 weeks-dry and warm with just a few cold shots. We too have been in a drought and are slowly just comming out of it-although we are about 3 inches below for November and December combined (freak Thanksgiving snow aside) In 2003 we were like 18 inches below normal for the year-by 2004, we were running almost a 20-25 inch deficit from Feb. 2001-Dec. 2003. Again, I hope you guys get some moisture and continue to build the snow pack in the mountains!!

[wthrmilagro]

Ummmmmmm.... Has L.A. ever had snow(the city)?

Actually some coastal areas of CA HAVE seen snow, and yes I have witnessed it on a rare occasion or two. I've lived here for 21 years, so I know the weather paterns in this area very well.

And Steve, sorry if I sounded like I was insulting you, or anyone else for that matter. But we here in the West have been in what seems like a perpetual drought for many years now, and everyone east of the Rockies has had tons of rain and excessive storms this year alone just about. It's our turn to get some weather for a change, and it is bugging me that we aren't getting anything over here for almost 3 weeks now.

I have lived in California for 29 years and I have never seen or heard it snow in the coastal areas. Maybe Frisco, but never down south.

[aveosmth]

It snowed in the San Fernando Valley in 1989...this is the area just to the north of Los Angeles....portions of the "valley" are considered part of Los Angeles and it did snow in that area....it also snowed in 2001 in Woodland Hills as well....in 2002 it snowed at Pepperdine University which is right on the coast in Malibu...it hasn't snowed in LAX or Downtown Los Angeles since 1957...and no accumulations since 1949....we had a storm about 6 wks ago that brought snow levels briefly down to 1000 feet (Los Angeles is at 400 feet).

[wthrmilagro]

It snowed in the San Fernando Valley in 1989...this is the area just to the north of Los Angeles....portions of the "valley" are considered part of Los Angeles and it did snow in that area....it also snowed in 2001 in Woodland Hills as well....in 2002 it snowed at Pepperdine University which is right on the coast in Malibu...it hasn't snowed in LAX or Downtown Los Angeles since 1957...and no accumulations since 1949....we had a storm about 6 wks ago that brought snow levels briefly down to 1000 feet (Los Angeles is at 400 feet).

Hmm, I was there, what they hell was I doing. Hehehe. I guess my memory has failed me..

[Steve]

LOL. Yeah, it was a major ordeal because it hadn't snowed in L.A. in like 25 years. I was there from January 3, 1987 til about March 2nd. So it was in that time frame. Lemme see if I can dig something up on Google.

Here's the almanac, doesn't mention '87 (Long Beach, Civic Center, Airport)

http://www.losangelesalmanac.com/topics ... r/we17.htm

Can't find anything else on it, but it was pretty amazing. We lived on Bluffside about a half block off of Ventura Blvd. from the Hollywood Hills (Santa Monica Mts?). The way the apartments were set up was kind of like a terrace. They stepped down every couple of units (heading toward the LA River). You could see from our balcony and the central courtyard all the way across the valley - at least when it wasn't smoggy .

Steve