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#21 Postby donsutherland1 » Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:04 pm

Stephanie,

I very much hope that Marty will have a safe trip and good time at the show. The snow will probably arrive in NYC around midday. The Philly area will see its arrival earlier. I hope he will be very careful coming back given the conditions at the time.
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#22 Postby Ed Spacer » Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:08 pm

Here is my forecast map:

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#23 Postby SnowGod » Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:12 pm

I don't see this as a megastorm. But as a MECS in the vain of January 20-21 1978. The GFS is a good safeguard against ETA Quad and now that it has finally gone with the European track, its Quad is reasonable compared to the ETA's. My first and last call:
Philly: 8-12 inches, mixing in with some sleet early
NYC: 10-15
Boston: 12-18 inches
DC: 4-6 inches with good sleet mixing in
local strips of 18-24 inches

Substained winds of 30-40mph and gusts up around 50-60mph.
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#24 Postby yoda » Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:26 pm

Ed... can't see it...

SnowGod.. IMO way too low...
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#25 Postby Ed Spacer » Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:05 am

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This is how much I think right now will fall.
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#26 Postby donsutherland1 » Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:11 am

Just a quick note...

After seeing the 0z numbers, south of Newark, I remain comfortable with the estimates. The same holds for Pittsburgh and west. I am increasingly concerned that my figures from EWR across Long Island and up into New England may be underdone--perhaps significantly in some cities such as PVD and BOS. I'll take another look after the early morning model runs.

Overall, a snowstorm of epic proportions may well be rolling into the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast from the Great Lakes region/Midwest/Ohio Valley and then exploding into New England later today (after all it is now Saturday).
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#27 Postby Ed Spacer » Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:25 am

Exactly as how I predicted....there is a significant area that will NOT go above freezing that will experience significant icing along with snow.
And in exactly the same areas I had plotted out.




URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WAKEFIELD VA
1000 PM EST FRI JAN 21 2005

MDZ021>025-220900-
DORCHESTER MD-INLAND WORCESTER MD-MARYLAND BEACHES MD-SOMERSET MD-
WICOMICO MD-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CAMBRIDGE...CRISFIELD...FRUITLAND...
HURLOCK...OCEAN CITY...POCOMOKE CITY...PRINCESS ANNE AND SALISBURY
1000 PM EST FRI JAN 21 2005

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING TO SUNDAY
MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WAKEFIELD, VA HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WATCH.

A WINTER STORM WILL MOVE ACROSS THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY LATE THIS
EVENING...THEN ACROSS THE MID ATLANTIC REGION ON SATURDAY. SNOW WILL
DEVELOP LATE SATURDAY MORNING ACROSS THE LOWER MARYLAND EASTERN
SHORE. BY MID OR LATE AFTERNOON...THE SNOW WILL MIX WITH SLEET THEN
POTENTIALLY CHANGE OVER TO A PERIOD OF FREEZING RAIN OR FREEZING
DRIZZLE. THIS AS WARMER AIR COMES IN ALOFT...AND OVERRIDES
COLD...SUB-FREEZING AIR AT THE SURFACE. BETWEEN 2 AND 3 INCHES OF
SNOW AND SLEET IS EXPECTED BEFORE ANY CHANGEOVER TO FREEZING RAIN
OR FREEZING DRIZZLE.

MEANWHILE...UP TO A TENTH OF AN INCH OF ICE ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE
LATE SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EARLY SATURDAY EVENING.

FREEZING RAIN OR FREEZING DRIZZLE WILL CHANGE QUICKLY BACK TO SNOW
SATURDAY EVENING...POSSIBLY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF SLEET BEFOREHAND.
THE SNOW SHOULD TAPER TO FLURRIES OR LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS TOWARD MIDDAY
ON SUNDAY. BY MIDDAY SUNDAY...AROUND 2 TO 3 INCHES OF ADDITIONAL SNOW
IS POSSIBLE...ON TOP OF ANY PREVIOUS ACCUMULATION OF
SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE.

A WINTER STORM WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SEVERE WINTER WEATHER IS
POSSIBLE, BUT NOT IMMINENT. AT THE TIME, THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND/OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS. FUTURE DRIVING AND WALKING
CONDITIONS MAY BECOME HAZARDOUS, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO MONITOR THE
LATEST FORECASTS.

CONDITIONS CAN DETERIORATE RAPIDLY IN WINTER WEATHER SITUATIONS, SLOW
DOWN AND ALLOW EXTRA TIME WHEN TRAVELLING. PRACTICE YOUR WINTER
SAFETY RULES, KEEP AN EXTRA FLASHLIGHT, FOOD, AND WATER IN YOUR CAR
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

$$

HURLEY/22










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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WAKEFIELD VA
1000 PM EST FRI JAN 21 2005

VAZ048-049-062>064-069>076>078-081>083-085-220900-
CAROLINE VA-CHARLES CITY VA-CHESTERFIELD VA-ESSEX VA-FLUVANNA VA-
GOOCHLAND VA-HANOVER VA-HENRICO VA-KING AND QUEEN VA-KING WILLIAM VA-
LANCASTER VA-MIDDLESEX VA-NORTHUMBERLAND VA-LOUISA VA-NEW KENT VA-
POWHATAN VA-PRINCE GEORGE VA-RICHMOND VA-WESTMORELAND VA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ASHLAND...BON AIR...BOWLING GREEN...
CHAMPLAIN...CHARLES CITY...CHESTER...COLONIAL BEACH...
COLONIAL HEIGHTS...DISPUTANTA...DOWNTOWN RICHMOND...FORK UNION...
FORT LEE...GOOCHLAND...HADENSVILLE...HIGHLAND SPRINGS...HOPEWELL...
KING AND QUEEN COURTHOUSE...KING WILLIAM...LOUISA...MECHANICSVILLE...
MILFORD...MINERAL...MONTROSS...MOSELEY...NEW KENT...PALMYRA...
PETERSBURG...POWHATAN...ROBLEY...ROXBURY...SAINT STEPHENS CHURCH...
TALLEYSVILLE...TAPPAHANNOCK...TUCKAHOE...WARSAW AND WEST POINT
1000 PM EST FRI JAN 21 2005

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING TO SUNDAY
MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WAKEFIELD, VA HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WATCH.

A WINTER STORM WILL MOVE ACROSS THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY LATE THIS
EVENING...THEN ACROSS THE MID ATLANTIC REGION ON SATURDAY. SNOW WILL
DEVELOP DURING THE MID TO LATE MORNING HOURS SATURDAY MORNING IN THE
RICHMOND METRO AREA...AND THEN MIX WITH AND CHANGE TO A PERIOD OF
SLEET BEFORE CHANGING TO FREEZING RAIN OR FREEZING DRIZZLE BETWEEN
NOON AND 3 PM. THIS AS WARMER AIR COMES IN ALOFT...AND OVERRIDES
COLD...SUB-FREEZING AIR AT THE SURFACE. AROUND AN INCH OF SNOW AND
SLEET IS EXPECTED BEFORE THE CHANGEOVER TO FREEZING RAIN.

MEANWHILE...AROUND A TENTH OF AN INCH OF ICE ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE
THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING.

FREEZING RAIN OR FREEZING DRIZZLE WILL CHANGE TO SNOW AGAIN SATURDAY
NIGHT...POSSIBLY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF SLEET BEFOREHAND. THE SNOW
SHOULD TAPER TO FLURRIES OR LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS DURING THE MORNING
HOURS SUNDAY. BY MIDDAY SUNDAY...AROUND 1 TO 2 INCHES OF ADDITIONAL
SNOW IS POSSIBLE...ON TOP OF ANY PREVIOUS ACCUMULATION OF
SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE.

A WINTER STORM WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SEVERE WINTER WEATHER IS
POSSIBLE, BUT NOT IMMINENT. AT THE TIME, THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND/OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS. FUTURE DRIVING AND WALKING
CONDITIONS MAY BECOME HAZARDOUS, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO MONITOR THE
LATEST FORECASTS.

CONDITIONS CAN DETERIORATE RAPIDLY IN WINTER WEATHER SITUATIONS, SLOW
DOWN AND ALLOW EXTRA TIME WHEN TRAVELLING. PRACTICE YOUR WINTER
SAFETY RULES, KEEP AN EXTRA FLASHLIGHT, FOOD, AND WATER IN YOUR CAR
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

$$



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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WAKEFIELD VA
313 PM EST FRI JAN 21 2005

VAZ048-049-062>064-069>076-081>083-220900-
CAROLINE VA-CHARLES CITY VA-CHESTERFIELD VA-ESSEX VA-FLUVANNA VA-
GOOCHLAND VA-HANOVER VA-HENRICO VA-KING AND QUEEN VA-KING WILLIAM VA-
LOUISA VA-NEW KENT VA-POWHATAN VA-PRINCE GEORGE VA-RICHMOND VA-
WESTMORELAND VA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ASHLAND...BON AIR...BOWLING GREEN...
CHAMPLAIN...CHARLES CITY...CHESTER...COLONIAL BEACH...
COLONIAL HEIGHTS...DISPUTANTA...DOWNTOWN RICHMOND...FORK UNION...
FORT LEE...GOOCHLAND...HADENSVILLE...HIGHLAND SPRINGS...HOPEWELL...
KING AND QUEEN COURTHOUSE...KING WILLIAM...LOUISA...MECHANICSVILLE...
MILFORD...MINERAL...MONTROSS...MOSELEY...NEW KENT...PALMYRA...
PETERSBURG...POWHATAN...ROBLEY...ROXBURY...SAINT STEPHENS CHURCH...
TALLEYSVILLE...TAPPAHANNOCK...TUCKAHOE...WARSAW AND WEST POINT
313 PM EST FRI JAN 21 2005

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY MORNING TO SUNDAY
MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WAKEFIELD, VA HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WATCH.

A STORM ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS THIS AFTERNOON WILL MOVE ACROSS
THE OHIO RIVER VALLEY THIS EVENING...THEN ACROSS THE MID ATLANTIC
REGION ON SATURDAY. SNOW WILL DEVELOP DURING THE MID TO LATE MORNING
HOURS SATURDAY MORNING IN THE RICHMOND METRO AREA...AND THEN MIX WITH
AND CHANGE TO A PERIOD OF SLEET BEFORE CHANGING TO FREEZING RAIN OR
FREEZING DRIZZLE BETWEEN NOON AND 3 PM. THIS AS WARMER AIR COMES IN
ALOFT...AND OVERRIDES COLD...SUB-FREEZING AIR AT THE SURFACE. AROUND
AN INCH OF SNOW AND SLEET IS EXPECTED BEFORE THE CHANGEOVER TO
FREEZING RAIN.

MEANWHILE...AROUND A TENTH OF AN INCH OF ICE ACCUMULATION IS POSSIBLE
THROUGH SATURDAY EVENING.

FREEZING RAIN OR FREEZING DRIZZLE WILL CHANGE TO SNOW AGAIN SATURDAY
NIGHT...POSSIBLY WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF SLEET BEFOREHAND. THE SNOW
SHOULD TAPER TO FLURRIES OR LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS DURING THE MORNING
HOURS SUNDAY. BY MIDDAY SUNDAY...AROUND 1 TO 2 INCHES OF ADDITIONAL
SNOW IS POSSIBLE...ON TOP OF ANY PREVIOUS ACCUMULATION OF
SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE.

A WINTER STORM WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SEVERE WINTER WEATHER IS
POSSIBLE, BUT NOT IMMINENT. AT THE TIME, THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND/OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS. FUTURE DRIVING AND WALKING
CONDITIONS MAY BECOME HAZARDOUS, SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO MONITOR THE
LATEST FORECASTS.

CONDITIONS CAN DETERIORATE RAPIDLY IN WINTER WEATHER SITUATIONS, SLOW
DOWN AND ALLOW EXTRA TIME WHEN TRAVELLING. PRACTICE YOUR WINTER
SAFETY RULES, KEEP AN EXTRA FLASHLIGHT, FOOD, AND WATER IN YOUR CAR
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

$$
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#28 Postby arlwx » Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:16 am

Looks like Richmond and Tidewater VA are slated for some ice from this...URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WAKEFIELD VA
347 AM EST SAT JAN 22 2005

.A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL DROP SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE OHIO RIVER
VALLEY TODAY...THEN EASTWARD ACROSS NORTHERN VIRGINIA...TO OFF THE
DELMARVA COAST TONIGHT. THIS STORM WILL PRODUCE A WINTRY MIX OF
PRECIPITATION ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST VIRGINIA...AS WELL AS THE
MARYLAND EASTERN SHORE.

MDZ021-022-221600-
DORCHESTER MD-WICOMICO MD-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CAMBRIDGE...FRUITLAND...
HURLOCK AND SALISBURY
347 AM EST SAT JAN 22 2005

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM THIS MORNING TO 8 AM EST
SUNDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WAKEFIELD, VA HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WARNING.

SNOW IS EXPECTED TO OVERSPREAD THE MARYLAND EASTERN SHORE...LATE THIS
MORNING AND EARLY THIS AFTERNOON...THEN MIX WITH OR CHANGE TO SLEET
AND FREEZING RAIN...AND POSSIBLY RAIN FOR A TIME LATE THIS AFTERNOON
AND EVENING. THE WINTRY MIX OF PRECIPITATION WILL CHANGE BACK TO SNOW
BEFORE ENDING EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. ACROSS DORCHESTER AND WICOMICO
COUNTIES...SNOWFALL TOTALS WILL LIKELY BE IN THE THREE TO FIVE INCH
RANGE BY THE TIME THE SNOW ENDS LATE TONIGHT...WITH AN ADDITIONAL
LIGHT ICE ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE DUE TO FREEZING RAIN.

CONDITIONS CAN DETERIORATE RAPIDLY IN WINTER WEATHER SITUATIONS, SLOW
DOWN AND ALLOW EXTRA TIME WHEN TRAVELLING. PRACTICE YOUR WINTER
SAFETY RULES, KEEP AN EXTRA FLASHLIGHT, FOOD, AND WATER IN YOUR CAR
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

$$

VAZ048-049-060>063-067>071-221600-
AMELIA VA-CHESTERFIELD VA-CUMBERLAND VA-FLUVANNA VA-GOOCHLAND VA-
HANOVER VA-HENRICO VA-LOUISA VA-NOTTOWAY VA-POWHATAN VA-
PRINCE EDWARD VA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...AMELIA COURTHOUSE...ASHLAND...BLACKSTONE...
BON AIR...CARTERSVILLE...CHESTER...COLONIAL HEIGHTS...CREWE...
CUMBERLAND...DOWNTOWN RICHMOND...FARMVILLE...FORK UNION...
GOOCHLAND...HADENSVILLE...HAMPDEN SYDNEY...HIGHLAND SPRINGS...
LOUISA...MANNBORO...MECHANICSVILLE...MINERAL...MOSELEY...PALMYRA...
POWHATAN AND TUCKAHOE
347 AM EST SAT JAN 22 2005

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM THIS MORNING TO 8 AM EST
SUNDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WAKEFIELD, VA HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WARNING.

SNOW IS EXPECTED TO OVERSPREAD THE EASTERN VIRGINIA PIEDMONT...AND
GREATER RICHMOND AREA THIS MORNING...THEN CHANGE TO SLEET AND
FREEZING RAIN THIS AFTERNOON. THE WINTRY MIX OF PRECIPITATION WILL
CHANGE BACK TO SNOW THIS EVENING...BEFORE ENDING TONIGHT. FOR AREAS
NEAR AND WEST OF AN ASHLAND TO RICHMOND TO CREWE LINE...SNOWFALL
TOTALS WILL BE IN THE ONE TO TWO INCH RANGE BY THE TIME THE SNOW ENDS
TONIGHT...BUT WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF SIGNIFICANT ICE ACCUMULATION OF
A QUARTER OF AN INCH OR SO...WITH THE FREEZING RAIN LATER THIS
MORNING AND THIS AFTERNOON.

A WINTER STORM WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SEVERE WINTER WEATHER IS
EXPECTED TO OCCUR. HEAVY SNOW AND/OR ICE ARE FORECAST TO ACCUMULATE
IN THE AFFECTED AREAS CAUSING HAZARDOUS DRIVING CONDITIONS. THOSE
WITH TRAVEL PLANS IN THE WARNING AREA ARE ADVISED TO CHOOSE AN
ALTERNATE ROUTE, OR SHOULD USE EXTREME CAUTION IF TRAVEL IS
UNAVOIDABLE.

$$

VAZ064-072>076-221600-
CAROLINE VA-ESSEX VA-KING AND QUEEN VA-KING WILLIAM VA-RICHMOND VA-
WESTMORELAND VA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BOWLING GREEN...CHAMPLAIN...
COLONIAL BEACH...KING AND QUEEN COURTHOUSE...KING WILLIAM...
MILFORD...MONTROSS...ROBLEY...SAINT STEPHENS CHURCH...TAPPAHANNOCK...
WARSAW AND WEST POINT
347 AM EST SAT JAN 22 2005

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM THIS MORNING TO 8 AM EST
SUNDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WAKEFIELD, VA HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WARNING.

SNOW IS EXPECTED TO OVERSPREAD THE NORTHERN NECK AND MIDDLE PENINSULA
AREA LATE THIS MORNING...THEN CHANGE TO SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN FOR A
TIME LATE THIS AFTERNOON. THE WINTRY MIX OF PRECIPITATION WILL CHANGE
BACK TO SNOW THIS EVENING...BEFORE ENDING TONIGHT. SNOWFALL TOTALS
WILL BE IN THE TWO TO FOUR INCH RANGE BY THE TIME THE SNOW ENDS LATE
TONIGHT...WITH THE ADDITIONAL ICE ACCUMULATION OF TWO TENTHS OF AN
INCH OR SO...DUE TO THE PERIOD OF FREEZING RAIN EXPECTED LATE THIS
AFTERNOON.

CONDITIONS CAN DETERIORATE RAPIDLY IN WINTER WEATHER SITUATIONS, SLOW
DOWN AND ALLOW EXTRA TIME WHEN TRAVELLING. PRACTICE YOUR WINTER
SAFETY RULES, KEEP AN EXTRA FLASHLIGHT, FOOD, AND WATER IN YOUR CAR
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.

$$

VAZ065-066-079>084-086>094-099-100-221600-
ACCOMACK VA-BRUNSWICK VA-CHARLES CITY VA-DINWIDDIE VA-GLOUCESTER VA-
GREENSVILLE VA-ISLE OF WIGHT VA-JAMES CITY VA-LUNENBURG VA-
MATHEWS VA-MECKLENBURG VA-NEW KENT VA-NEWPORT NEWS/HAMPTON VA-
NORTHAMPTON VA-PRINCE GEORGE VA-SOUTHAMPTON VA-SURRY VA-SUSSEX VA-
YORK VA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...BOYKINS...BRODNAX...CAPE CHARLES...
CHARLES CITY...CHASE CITY...CHINCOTEAGUE...CLAREMONT...COURTLAND...
DAHLIA...DINWIDDIE...DISPUTANTA...EMPORIA...EXMORE...FORT LEE...
FRANKLIN...GLOUCESTER COURTHOUSE...GLOUCESTER POINT...HAMPTON...
HOPEWELL...KENBRIDGE...LANGLEY AFB...LAWRENCEVILLE...MATHEWS...
MCKENNEY...NEW KENT...NEW POINT COMFORT...NEWPORT NEWS...NORGE...
PATRICK HENRY FIELD...PETERSBURG...POQUOSON...PURDY...QUEENS LAKE...
ROXBURY...SEAFORD...SMITHFIELD...SOUTH HILL...SURRY...TALLEYSVILLE...
TOANO...VICTORIA...WAKEFIELD...WAVERLY...WILLIAMSBURG AND WINDSOR
347 AM EST SAT JAN 22 2005

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 8 AM THIS MORNING TO 8 AM
EST SUNDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WAKEFIELD, VA HAS ISSUED A WINTER
WEATHER ADVISORY.

SNOW IS EXPECTED TO OVERSPREAD PORTIONS OF SOUTH CENTRAL
VIRGINIA...THE PENINSULA...AND LOWER VIRGINIA EASTERN SHORE THIS
MORNING. PRECIPITATION SHOULD CHANGE TO SLEET AND FREEZING
RAIN...THEN RAIN THIS AFTERNOON OVER THOSE AREAS. THE PRECIPITATION
WILL CHANGE BACK TO SNOW BEFORE ENDING EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. SNOWFALL
TOTALS WILL LIKELY BE AROUND AN INCH AT AND NEAR LOCATIONS SUCH AS
SOUTH HILL...WAKEFIELD...AND NEWPORT NEWS...WITH POTENTIAL FOR ICE
ACCRETION OF A TENTH OF AN INCH OR SO DUE TO FREEZING RAIN. THE LOWER
EASTERN SHORE WILL ALSO SEE AROUND AN INCH OF SNOW...WITH A LIGHT
ICING POSSIBLE DUE TO FREEZING RAIN...AWAY FROM THE COAST.

THE MENTIONED ADVISORY IS ISSUED WHEN SNOW AND/OR ICE IS FORECAST TO
DEVELOP IN THE AFFECTED AREAS, BUT ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
LIGHT. ANY SNOW OR ICE WOULD MAKE DRIVING AND WALKING DIFFICULT BUT
NOT IMPOSSIBLE ON UNTREATED ROADWAYS AND SIDEWALKS. WHEN TEMPERATURES
ARE BELOW FREEZING, MOTORISTS NEED TO BE ESPECIALLY CAREFUL ON
BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES WHERE SLIPPERY SPOTS CAN EASILY DEVELOP.

$$

MDZ023>025-VAZ077-078-085-221600-
INLAND WORCESTER MD-LANCASTER VA-MARYLAND BEACHES MD-MIDDLESEX VA-
NORTHUMBERLAND VA-SOMERSET MD-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...CALLAO...CRISFIELD...DELTAVILLE...
FAIR PORT...KILMARNOCK...OCEAN CITY...POCOMOKE CITY...
PRINCESS ANNE AND URBANNA
347 AM EST SAT JAN 22 2005

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM THIS MORNING TO 8 AM
EST SUNDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WAKEFIELD, VA HAS ISSUED A WINTER
WEATHER ADVISORY.

SNOW IS EXPECTED TO OVERSPREAD THE MARYLAND EASTERN SHORE AND
NORTHERN NECK...LATE THIS MORNING OR EARLY THIS AFTERNOON...THEN MIX
WITH OR CHANGE TO SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN...AND THEN RAIN FOR A TIME
LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. THE WINTRY MIX OF PRECIPITATION WILL
CHANGE BACK TO SNOW BEFORE ENDING EARLY SUNDAY MORNING. ACROSS
SOMERSET AND WORCESTER COUNTIES IN MARYLAND...AND
NORTHUMBERLAND...LANCASTER AND MIDDLESEX COUNTIES IN
VIRGINIA...SNOWFALL TOTALS WILL LIKELY BE IN THE ONE TO THREE INCH
RANGE BY THE TIME THE SNOW ENDS LATE TONIGHT...WITH SOME LIGHT ICING
POSSIBLE DUE TO FREEZING RAIN...AWAY FROM THE COAST.

THE MENTIONED ADVISORY IS ISSUED WHEN SNOW AND/OR ICE IS FORECAST TO
DEVELOP IN THE AFFECTED AREAS, BUT ACCUMULATIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
LIGHT. ANY SNOW OR ICE WOULD MAKE DRIVING AND WALKING DIFFICULT BUT
NOT IMPOSSIBLE ON UNTREATED ROADWAYS AND SIDEWALKS. WHEN TEMPERATURES
ARE BELOW FREEZING, MOTORISTS NEED TO BE ESPECIALLY CAREFUL ON
BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES WHERE SLIPPERY SPOTS CAN EASILY DEVELOP.
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#29 Postby rainstorm » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:15 am

maybe, but the radar is very dry in most of va, save for a few scattered sprinkles and flurries. no frozen precip will fall here at all. temps already above freezing with a strong se breeze. i am hoping for 45 and pt cloudy today. storm moving very fast and should redevelop well north of here. de/nj
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#30 Postby Heatseeker » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:24 am

I'd much rather have more snow and less ice! I'm worried about losing power - in the 1994 ice storm we were without power for days.
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Re: Blizzard Likely in Parts of Northern Mid-Atlantic/Northe

#31 Postby donsutherland1 » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:26 am

Final estimates:

After reviewing the 6z data and incorporating the 0z data, I've left most amounts alone. Mainly, New England's totals were upped. But a few others were tweaked.

My estimated accumulations are as follows:

Babylon: 16"-24"
Baltimore: 6"-12"
Boston: 22"-30"
Danbury: 10"-18"
Chicago: 8"-16"
Cleveland: 6"-10"
Columbus: 4"-8"
Detroit: 6"-10"
New York City: 12"-20"
Newark: 14"-20"
Philadelphia: 12"-18"
Pittsburgh: 6"-10"
Providence: 24"-32"
Richmond: 1"-2"
Washington, DC: 4"-8"
White Plains: 12"-18"
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#32 Postby Dave C » Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:43 am

Don, what is your feeling on sleet or rain mixing, the latest NWS disc. mentioned some 6z models bringing storm a little north of 40-70 benchmark. We were -5 deg. this morning, kind of reminds me of historic storm in Jan 1857 where temps were well below 0 in many areas prior to storm and a well defined eye feature as storm tracked over SE Mass. Difference being this storm related to clipper where 1857 storm formed in Gulf(miller-A).
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#33 Postby Stephanie » Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:45 am

donsutherland1 wrote:Stephanie,

I very much hope that Marty will have a safe trip and good time at the show. The snow will probably arrive in NYC around midday. The Philly area will see its arrival earlier. I hope he will be very careful coming back given the conditions at the time.


Thanks Don! They'll make it up to NYC alright, I just hope that they find a hotel or something when they decide to come home. :eek: When he left this morning he said "see you tonight" and I told him MAYBE. :roll: :lol:
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#34 Postby weatherfan » Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:46 pm

I agree don with your over all esterments.For those who are geting screwed beleave me I do feel your pain.The important thing to always keep in mind is this is a miller B and when deeling with Miller B storms there will always be someone who will be screwed and missed by it.Also miller Bs tend to be the most complex to forecasts do to the troubles the modles tend to have with them ands its formations.Ofton times then not Miller Bs Tend to Suck south of MD line. the dynamicks of the GW and the frist system is what lucking people south of MD with this system with the snow that happening right now.If you are rooting for snow in VA and even winterey weather in NC and SC.Your systems your have to root for is the Miller As.So far this winter miller As has been hard to come by.winter of 2002-2003 was a winter where the pattern faverd the miller A track this why the record breaking snows in much of the middle Alantic.1996 was another winter where it faverd it seem mosty miller A tracks.This winter so far has faverd the miller B.But don't give up hope.Because the storm tracks have all been different types this year.We have had western tracks lake cuters West of the mountains tracks millers Bs and Yes beleave it or not even the milller A.Because in late December that was a miller A but the pattern just was it faverd for it to come up the coast.But since we can get the miller A there is hope for those who are missing out on this event yet this winter.And hopefully we will see at least one or two miller A track storms before winter is over.
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#35 Postby Tri-State_1925 » Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:47 pm

I was driving around Northern CT when the snow started around 2:40 PM...and man did it pick up quickly. As advertised -- car-whipped, blowing snow was all over the roads within 15 minutes...cars starting to crawl around out there. If it's already this bad, it is going to be unreal tonight. For anyone doubting how bad it is going to get up here, forget about it.
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#36 Postby SnowGod » Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:16 pm

Don's amounts are still to high in some places IMO. This storm is not going to end up a HECS storm and people comparing it to the 78 storm are in fantasy land. If it was a slower storm, we may have a impulse, but the speed of the thing is the final blow.
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#37 Postby weatherfan » Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:47 pm

I agree 100 percent that this is diffentey no 78.1978 is specal on it own because it was a triper phaser.And Baltmore did much better with a foot at least with 1978.This is a classest example of a Miller B.The problems with miller Bs are.They form to late for places south of MD line.But are good for Md line north.The big events that are good for most south of Pa is the Miller As that form in the gulf and come up the east coast.Some argures PD2 was a miller B but that was a miller A pure sub tropica jet invove.But as said before don't lose fath yet.Because it is only januarey and we hopefully we will see one or two miller As before the winter is through.
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#38 Postby donsutherland1 » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:43 pm

Verification:

Babylon: 16"-24"; Actual 15.8" (N. Babylon: 12.0"; W. Babylon: 19.6")
Baltimore: 6"-12"; Actual: 4.5"
Boston: 22"-30"; Actual 22.5"
Chicago: 8"-16"; Actual: 11.2"
Cleveland: 6"-10"; Actual: 7.4"
Columbus: 4"-8"; Actual: 2.1"
Danbury: 10"-18"; Actual: 10.0"
Detroit: 6"-10"; Actual: 12.2"
New York City: 12"-20"; Actual: 13.8"
Newark: 14"-20"; Actual: 13.4"
Philadelphia: 12"-18"; Actual: 12.8"
Pittsburgh: 6"-10"; Actual: 5.3"
Providence: 24"-32"; Actual: 23.4"
Richmond: 1"-2"; Actual: 0.2"
Washington, DC: 4"-8"; Actual: 3.0"
White Plains: 12"-18"; Actual: 8.2"

Overall, my final estimates were generally too high.
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#39 Postby ohiostorm » Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:50 pm

Storm tracked mor north of what everyone thought too. And the dry slot really hit Eastern Ohio and Western PA. I'm Suprised Pittsburgh got as much as they did. We ended up with 3.5" just 45 minutes west of Pitt. Predicted 6 to 12 from NWS.
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#40 Postby Anonymous » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:34 pm

Don,

Those of us West of DC got the shaft...3.5 inches...and that is also the total snowfall thus far for the entire season.

Do you still see Feb/Mar as active months and snow for Northern Mid-Atlantic?
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