Biblical Storm For The East Coast ???

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#21 Postby snow_wizzard » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:08 pm

I am betting it will not happen. The latest ECMWF shows no trough at all in the east next week, and no cold air. I am a bit mystified about what you guys are seeing. Besides...you guys have already had enough!
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#22 Postby Noreaster_Jer_04 » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:10 pm

As I said it is mostly speculation at this point... the where is a huge question, but there is an interesting possibilty as with all weather it will all come down to timing, this particular storm which target date looks to be Super Bowl Sunday will be the last in a series from the southern stream, the first is this weekend effecting the southeast, the next one will be Tuesday and looks to effect from PA/MD border northward, the last will be that weekend, and that my friends is rule number one, to get a big storm it ususally has to be the last in a series (the caboose)... There will be a buckling of the northern jet around the same time, if the timing is right it could lead to a massive storm...

Please guys don't get to nuts about this as was made very clear a two weeks ago, situations where everything lines up just right only create a Historical Storm 1 out of 10 times, despite waht many think this past storm did not and repeat did not pan out to it's max potential... So please don't say it just happened
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#23 Postby krysof » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:14 pm

You can't get peoples hopes up. It's not right especially without any proof and everything that's going against it. Too soon after 93, already had a blizzard, models not agreeing on this possibility.
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Enough la la land stuff

#24 Postby SnowGod » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:15 pm

Every since the Nor'easter, East Coast posters have been on a rampage of weirdoness. Relax, look at the pattern: Zonal,boring blaa.

The only "biblical" storm I see for the next 7-10 days is the one I create in my head.

Maybe if we are lucky, a West to East overrunning event could happen to quiet the crowd?

It is plainly obvious the PV is re-organizing in Canada. I think the arctic air returns sometime in the near future, but lets relax. Ok :lol:
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#25 Postby Noreaster_Jer_04 » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:16 pm

Dude look at the JMA and the GFS, thats two models that agree, what kind of proof do you want exactly... and I'm not getting people's hopes up I am discussing a situation that is possible, so possible that senior mets at Accuweather are discussing it openly in their columns... I'm not saying anything more than they did...

96 wasn't too soon after 93 was it?
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#26 Postby krysof » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:18 pm

Zonal flow at least the next 7-10 days, then things get intresting. Trough possibly setting up in the east mid February and a very active southern jet could mean for another major snowstorm or nor'easter.
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#27 Postby Noreaster_Jer_04 » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:20 pm

That's what I'm talikng about, the period from FEB 5th-10th, that's past 7 days away, I don't trust the EURO in a pattern such as this...
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#28 Postby ohiostorm » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:20 pm

Discussing what the models are saying is something. Wouldn't you rather discuss it rather then not? Your not -removed- or anyting. I think its dumb for someone to say its not going to happen. Noone will know until its over. Had that happen last week. Lets just see what happens and discuss what the models say each run and go with it day by day. I hate seeing people gt flamed when they are just stating facts about the runs.

93-96 was 3 years
How long has it been since the last bigone?
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#29 Postby krysof » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:24 pm

Unfortunately for you, every new model run will probably crush your hopes and chances of a superstorm.
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#30 Postby ohiostorm » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:25 pm

I dont care. Not like we've gotten any snow yet this year. Bring on the rain and flooding.
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#31 Postby krysof » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:27 pm

I'll take rain and flooding, at least something would be going on instead of boring sunshine.
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#32 Postby Noreaster_Jer_04 » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:28 pm

My comment about the Euro has some merit, the pattern has flipped and as I recall the Euro doesn't do well in a pattern with split streams, the GFS is bad in any pattern that's during an El Nino, but one thing I will say in defense of the GFS is that it's pretty good at sniffing out storms from far away then it screws up the details as the storm gets closer, The GFS sees the storm as does the JMA which has done well all year... The Euro has done well this year so far but this is teh first time we'll see the soutehrn jet in a while... so we'll see.
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#33 Postby ohiostorm » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:28 pm

Considering theres places still flooded here from rains back earlier this month and we are very saturated from September, any rain would be devestating. Flooding and mudslides have destroyed so many houses lately.
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#34 Postby VERMONTsnow » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:30 pm

ECMFW shows major trough forming on the 3rd in the southeast. Zonal flow, are you kidding??? the pattern does not get any better for a major east coast snow storm!!!!
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#35 Postby krysof » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:33 pm

You haven't had too much snow, huh Nor'easter, because I'm beginning to think you are -removed- just because you want heavy snow. I bet you're imagining very heavy snow just falling from the sky and 2-3 feet of snow.
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#36 Postby ohiostorm » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:36 pm

Where are you from krysof?
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#37 Postby EXTONPA » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:41 pm

Krysof, don't be such a snow scrooge :D I agree with VERMONTsnow, pattern looks ripe for producing blockbuster storm
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#38 Postby JenyEliza » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:45 pm

ohiostorm wrote:Where are you from krysof?


New Jersey.
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#39 Postby JenyEliza » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:46 pm

krysof wrote:You haven't had too much snow, huh Nor'easter, because I'm beginning to think you are -removed- just because you want heavy snow. I bet you're imagining very heavy snow just falling from the sky and 2-3 feet of snow.


How to win friends and influence people. :roll:
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#40 Postby EXTONPA » Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:47 pm

given the split jet, I think NOGAPS handling the pattern the best..... :roll:
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