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Winter ends for the east? No doubt about it!

#1 Postby krysof » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:27 pm

Temperatures will stay way above freezing for the rest of the month. There are no storm threats at all. The Feb 15 hype shows heavy moisture with temps in the 40's for the northeast. This is such a disappointment. I thought this was supposed to be the snowiest month as accuweather and others predicted. I think I'm going to leave this forum and go to the hurricane hollow forum. Face it winter is over, March will be a very warm month, no snow at all. We'll finish this year with below average snowfall. So far we've had a total of 21 inches which is about 7-8 inches below normal. I am very right about this prediction. Warm months ahead. Monthly temperatures for February in the east will be 10+ above average for the east and March temperatures will be 20+ above average with a scorching month of April and a deadly heat wave starting May through October 2005.
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#2 Postby andrewr » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:37 pm

Wasn't this the same thing you posted over at the Old Farmer's Almanac forum? Don't let the warm temperatures throw you off, there is still a lot of time for you to get the 7-8 inches.
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#3 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:38 am

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I'm glad we know to not believe any of this when you post it. It would be one thing if you could back it up, but you can't. All you need to do is read Don's discussion elsewhere in this forum.
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#4 Postby george_r_1961 » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:56 am

Although statistically the time for the EC to get a major snow is January to Mid Ferbruary we have had some nasty surprises here in March. I do not believe winter is over yet.
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#5 Postby Skywatch_NC » Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:02 am

george_r_1961 wrote:Although statistucally the time for the EC to get a major snow is January to Mid February we have had some nasty surprises here in March. I do not believe winter is over yet.


That's what I've been trying to get across to peeps here, too.
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#6 Postby Mezocyclone » Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:40 am

With those kinds of prognostications, the NHC and the NWS needs you... :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :roll: :wink:
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#7 Postby Stephanie » Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:50 am

Mezocyclone wrote:With those kinds of prognostications, the NHC and the NWS needs you... :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :roll: :wink:


:lol: :lol:
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#8 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:03 pm

Typically during (generalizations) El Niño years, the coldest winter months are Feb/Mar ... and unfortunately, Niño springs tend to be cool and wet ...

There are still enough indicators that we're RELOADING the pattern, not changing it ...

don't count chickens before they hatch.

enjoy the temporary warm weather ...

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#9 Postby ETXHAMXYL » Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:27 pm

Winter isn't over until March 21st right? You are complaining of 21 inches of snow not being enough snow? Try living in NTX where we are lucky if we get any snow from Dec-FEb. We are lucky just to see flakes, or freezing anything. I'd be happy with 2 inches much less 21 inches. Now if you said winter is over in Texas I'd agree. But you are up yonder when many times we are basking in 70-80 degree temps in March you are having a blizzard. Can't tell you how many times in March our local mets will show blizzard pics from up NOrth and say wow aren't you glad you are here in TExas getting an early tan. So don't start crying its over cause your winter still has lots left in it.
If we here in TExas don't get anything by the last week of Feb. then the first week of March we will start planting our gardens and By March 15 we will have tomatoes in the ground round here.
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#10 Postby Fodie77 » Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:07 pm

Stop whining krysof. Here in the northern Shenandoah Valley, we average around 28-34 inches of snow per year. To date, we've had about only 5 inches. I would be dying to have 21 inches for the year right now. Oh, and by the way, I'm not a professional met and neither are you, so don't talk like you're the Nostradamus of professional forecasting and make statements like "winter's done" when we're only in early February.
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#11 Postby therock1811 » Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:22 pm

Talk to us March 1st, then some of us might be willing to believe it.
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#12 Postby Persepone » Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:56 pm

ETXHAMXYL wrote:If we here in TExas don't get anything by the last week of Feb. then the first week of March we will start planting our gardens and By March 15 we will have tomatoes in the ground round here.


I'm jealous! Around here if you put them in much before Memorial Day you have to watch very closely and use heatcaps, etc. or the frost kills them!

But I remember being so surprised when I once flew from our snow and ice to Texas (your spring, but still our winter) and saw all the flowers in bloom! And your cities have lots and lots of flowers! It was so wonderful and unexpected for me. It was as if nature said "welcome to Texas!" It was hard to get back on the plane and fly back to cold and dirty snow piles and icy sidewalks of later winter here.
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#13 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:13 pm

Persepone wrote:
ETXHAMXYL wrote:If we here in TExas don't get anything by the last week of Feb. then the first week of March we will start planting our gardens and By March 15 we will have tomatoes in the ground round here.


I'm jealous! Around here if you put them in much before Memorial Day you have to watch very closely and use heatcaps, etc. or the frost kills them!

But I remember being so surprised when I once flew from our snow and ice to Texas (your spring, but still our winter) and saw all the flowers in bloom! And your cities have lots and lots of flowers! It was so wonderful and unexpected for me. It was as if nature said "welcome to Texas!" It was hard to get back on the plane and fly back to cold and dirty snow piles and icy sidewalks of later winter here.


Most definitely is one of the advantages of living in SE TX and you are right we will beging to see lots of blooming flowers ina less than a month.
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#14 Postby R-Dub » Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:45 pm

I don't know how anyone can say winter is over for anyplace!

#1 There is still about 6 weeks or 41 days of winter.
#2 Even when we get to the start of spring, that doesn't mean there will be a magic light swich (or winter weather switch) that you just switch to "off". Heck on the first day of spring in 2002 we had almost a foot of snow fall here in Western WA, a place which snow is rare in January, let alone the first day of spring!
#3 The groundhog says winter isn't over :lol:

Just my 2 cents 8-)
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#15 Postby amawea » Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:11 pm

We had a big snow here in N. Arkansas in March, I believe it was.on Mar. 10 of 1993. We got 11 inches. So it ain't over till the fat meadow lark sings. :D
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#16 Postby TexasStooge » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:22 am

I'm sure there will be some snow on Valentine's Day in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, so don't say the winter season is over...yet.
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#17 Postby Miss Mary » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:26 am

This time of year I'm always a little sad to say goodbye to January, since I love a good snowstorm. Not a crippling one though, wouldn't wish for numerous car accidents or power failures. Just a simple snowfall, enough that kids can go sledriding. As we begin February, chances of a good snowstorm start to diminish. By mid-month even more so, for the OV. Sure it can happen, but temps warm up in Cincinnati too quickly and it all melts.

Most people I know are happy to greet February and know warmer temps are coming soon too. Not me! I love hibernating in January and the anticipation of a good snowstorm.

So I'm usually in a funk and they're celebrating!

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Re: Winter ends for the east? No doubt about it!

#18 Postby donsutherland1 » Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:37 pm

Krysof,

Someone forget to tell the 2/8 0z run of the ECMWF.

Three additional points:

1) In late July 2004, with no tropical systems having developed, some were writing off the season. What happened?

2) In early January, the chorus of winter's over again arose from some as near-record and record warmth covered the East. What happened?

3) Those are exceptionally bold predictions. You wrote:

Warm months ahead. Monthly temperatures for February in the east will be 10+ above average for the east and March temperatures will be 20+ above average...

If it were to materialize, that would be unprecedented warmth. It would destroy all standing records.

For now, I'll just note that I believe all of the following cities will see below normal temperatures for the February 15-28 period: Boston, New York City, Philadelphia, and Washington, DC

Let's see how this works out.
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#19 Postby Stephanie » Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:57 pm

don - some people just like to get a rise out of people. Those were perfect examples.
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#20 Postby Lindaloo » Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:11 pm

Stephanie wrote:don - some people just like to get a rise out of people. Those were perfect examples.


especially krysof.
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