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depotoo · #21 Postby **depotoo** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:20 pm

Paul -microsoft already has a free version of spyware- that is one of the links you will find - it is great - i run it along side my other one and they work great together - seems one will find something the other doesn't and vice versa. it is free for now.

Aquawind · #22 Postby **Aquawind** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:35 pm

depotoo wrote:Paul -microsoft already has a free version of spyware- that is one of the links you will find - it is great - i run it along side my other one and they work great together - seems one will find something the other doesn't and vice versa. it is free for now.

Yep it works pretty well.. It is a Beta product so absolutely no guarantees..but it works pretty good! I listed in my above post. Absolutely I agree with having at least 2 Anti-Spyware programs as long as their both not in the Startup process..

Paul

depotoo · #23 Postby **depotoo** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:15 pm

Paul - mine are - what problems does it cause? hope i haven't jeopardized my computer.

so - what should i do?

Aquawind · #24 Postby **Aquawind** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:35 pm

Well they could interfere with each other and thus not perform (update/scan)properly or worse depending on the exact programs. I like to keep the Startup list of programs as limited as possible and never duplicate programs that do the same thing in windows startup. I usually disable camera software unless your connecting your camera almost daily..All you have to do is simply open the program before connecting the camera as usual and it should work as expected. Quicktime, Realplayer, Adobe, Microsoft Office, Viewpoint..are all unchecked on my machines. Antivirus, Security and Printers leave alone..even though they are resource pigs. Sometime if you right click on the icon down by the clock or simply open the program you will see options/settings to disable on windows startup..I like to try that first and then reboot and check msconfig..

Paul

depotoo · #25 Postby **depotoo** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:42 pm

thanks for the info! i was afraid you were talking about the spyware and the firewalls. i do sometimes forget with my camera and leave it plugged in and know what you are talking about. have gotten to where i just enable it by plugging back in my cord to it each time- it's usb so is easy! thanks for the info. it is still ok to run the firewalls, spyware and antivirus together in startup then, right?

Aquawind · #26 Postby **Aquawind** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:50 pm

depotoo wrote:thanks for the info! i was afraid you were talking about the spyware and the firewalls. i do sometimes forget with my camera and leave it plugged in and know what you are talking about. have gotten to where i just enable it by plugging back in my cord to it each time- it's usb so is easy! thanks for the info. it is still ok to run the firewalls, spyware and antivirus together in startup then, right?

Your Welcome..You can have all of those things running you just don't want 2 of each running.. With my Kodak camera the software runs down by the clock and I disable that on startup.. Then before I plug my camera back in I open the software from the desktop or programs list..Some of those camera programs can be resouce users as well..

Paul

depotoo · #27 Postby **depotoo** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:15 pm

thanks again - i am a somewhat computer dummy - but have had to try to learn from mishaps

and others like you!

HurricaneBill · #28 Postby **HurricaneBill** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:09 pm

OK, my computer seems to have somehow cured itself. I checked and I no longer have two csrss.exe files, now just one. Plus, I was able to shutdown without doing it manually.

Odd.

StormChasr · #29 Postby **StormChasr** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:21 pm

Get a Mac and you won't have to worry about all this stuff.

You bet. That's why I donated both PCS to my church, and bought two Macs--totally immune to viruses, spyware, and all crashes.

gtalum · #30 Postby **gtalum** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:03 pm

StormChasr wrote:
Get a Mac and you won't have to worry about all this stuff.

You bet. That's why I donated both PCS to my church, and bought two Macs--totally immune to viruses, spyware, and all crashes.

Macs aren't "totally immune" to any of that. They're just not targetted by hackers as frequently as PC's running Windows. That's only because there are fewer of them to target. It's teh same reason that Linux is more tsable than windows. Smallsample size = fewer possible targets = fewer attacks.

Here is just one example.

weatherwindow · #31 Postby **weatherwindow** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:56 pm

did a resore, but then earthlink wouldnt recognize me ......still in limbo....had to go to a secondary computer.....this is still a problem

Aquawind · #32 Postby **Aquawind** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:20 pm

Macs aren't "totally immune" to any of that. They're just not targetted by hackers as frequently as PC's running Windows. That's only because there are fewer of them to target. It's teh same reason that Linux is more tsable than windows. Smallsample size = fewer possible targets = fewer attacks.

Here is just one example.

Exactly...

Paul

Aquawind · #33 Postby **Aquawind** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:27 pm

weatherwindow wrote:did a resore, but then earthlink wouldnt recognize me ......still in limbo....had to go to a secondary computer.....this is still a problem

I would reinstall your Earthlink software if you have already done the other suggestions above..Check to make sure the modem is functional.. Earthlink should be able to help you better with their software..Definately run the Virus and Spyware scans again just in case you restored a problem as well..Chances are it's only a Earthlnik issue if everything else is fine..yeah I know the phone calls to support are painfull.. :roll:

Paul

StormChasr · #34 Postby **StormChasr** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:54 pm

Good luck trying to target a mac with a DOS--can't be done!! There are NO known viruses for OSX--only about a dozen for OS 9. Thus, the chances of messing up a mac are almost nil. The Darwin kernel is as close to impenetrable as a home operating system can be.

Lindaloo · #35 Postby **Lindaloo** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:53 pm

StormChasr wrote:Good luck trying to target a mac with a DOS--can't be done!! There are NO known viruses for OSX--only about a dozen for OS 9. Thus, the chances of messing up a mac are almost nil. The Darwin kernel is as close to impenetrable as a home operating system can be.

Never say NEVER when it comes to hackers. They will find a way!!

gtalum · #36 Postby **gtalum** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:22 am

StormChasr wrote:Good luck trying to target a mac with a DOS--can't be done!! There are NO known viruses for OSX--only about a dozen for OS 9. Thus, the chances of messing up a mac are almost nil. The Darwin kernel is as close to impenetrable as a home operating system can be.

Not quite.

Mac Users Face Rare Threat

A script-based threat that spies on Mac users caught the attention of some security watchers last week.

The malware, which has been dubbed Opener by Mac user groups, has the potential to disable Mac OS X's built-in firewall, steal personal information or destroy data. At the moment, however, it seems to pose little danger.

Security experts say those threatening traits are common among the thousands of online threats targeting Microsoft's ubiquitous Windows operating system but are virtually unheard of on Apple Computer's Mac OS.

Paul Ducklin, Sophos' head of technology in the Asia-Pacific region, said that the software, which Sophos calls Renepo, is designed to affect Mac OS X drives connected to an infected system and that it leaves affected computers vulnerable to further attack.

Ducklin said Opener disables Mac OS X's built-in firewall, creates a back door so the malware author can control the computer remotely, locates any passwords stored on the hard drive, and downloads a password cracker called JohnTheRipper.

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Any system can be hacked by any other system. It's just a matter of know-how.

Macs are relatively safe at the moment because hackers don't often target them. That's only because Macs represent less than 10% of the personal systems out there, and almost none of the world's servers are Macs. That alone should tell you something.

Zadok · #37 Postby **Zadok** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:35 pm

Well have a great time with your Dells. For me the last spyware I got with them poping up a box telling me there was spyware on my computer and if I would go to their site and pay them they would take it off was the last straw. Internet extortion I don't think so. The imac that I have now I have never had one problem with. Not to mention the fact that there is no box for the computer. It is built right into the flat screen. You slide your cd's and dvd's right into the side of your flat screen.All you have is your flat screen, mouse and keyboard. The iMac also has voice command. I say "Open my browser" and my browser opens without touching anything. The OSX has never crashed never got a virus. Nothing! Have fun with windows!

gtalum · #38 Postby **gtalum** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:08 pm

I have lots of fun with my Windows boxes as well as my Linux boxes. That doesn't eliminate the fact that Macs are not immune to viruses and spyware.

StormChasr · #39 Postby **StormChasr** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:04 pm

That alone should tell you something.

Yes, it does.

Note my occupation on my profile, and what I choose to run at home. BTW, there are PLENTY of Mac servers, just not as many as the Win/Unix varieties, inasmuch as they are far more expensive.

Rainband · #40 Postby **Rainband** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:16 pm

Never had a problem with my dell.I will keep windows. Most virus and spyware comes from xxx sites and I don't go to any stuff sites or any questionable sites and I have a top of the line firewall and router :wink:

I won't buy anything but a Dell

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