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#141 Postby Miss Mary » Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:13 am

I'm excited as well. I think Ibrehem will go the extra mile, to prove himself again. I still don't understand what the problem was last time - could he not find the bottles and/or hold his breath long enough to stay down? Jim thought it was because he didn't dive in, those that did went deep down and could find bottles quickly. If some just jumped in or fell into the water, they couldn't get deep enough. Thoughts? Ibrehem sure looks VERY capable to perform such tasks - heck, any if you ask me. He looks to be a fierce competitor. Put him next to James, side and by side, and tell me who looks stronger? I rest my case...he he.

It's on Wednesday night again, so heads up everyone.

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#142 Postby MSRobi911 » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:02 am

Thought I would bring this back to the top since its tonight...well, in the pm of this day....I took a two hour nap and am not sleepy, go figure!

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Willard speaks...if anyone cares to read what he has to say!

#143 Postby Miss Mary » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:25 am

Me? I'm actually more interested in what Angie has to say. I just didn't think she deserved to go home yet. Thanks for bumping up this topic Mary!

*Edit.....after reading this article, I'm shaking my head here. So the Willard we saw and were introduced to, wasn't the 'real' Willard at all? Will the real Willard please stand up? And oh yeah, put a shirt on while you're at it? LOL

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From TV Guide online....

http://www.tvguide.com/news/insider/050323c.asp

Survivor's "Psycho" Marine Discharged
by Angel Cohn

Willard Smith

Membership in Survivor: Palau's winning tribe has its benefits. Not only did Koror land themselves a swanky hut, courtesy of Home Depot, but their undefeated streak also allowed them to avoid tribal council. That false sense of security ended with last week's twist, in which host Jeff Probst made both tribes send one player home. Unsurprisingly, the Koror crew snuffed the torch of their weakest link, 57-year-old Willard Smith. Though he didn't put up much of a fight on the island, the second TVGuide.com steps in the door, this smooth-talking lawyer is off and running. Apparently, he's peeved about TV Guide calling him "affluent," among other grievances....


Willard Smith: I said that I didn't need the $1 million, and they assumed that meant I was wealthy. If you don't have a high-consumption lifestyle, you don't need that much money. It doesn't mean you are wealthy.

TVGuide.com: OK. So were you surprised to be voted off?
Willard: I knew I was getting voted off, there was no shock.

TVG: You are a lawyer. Why didn't you fight more?
Willard: Let's take that in three parts. One, being a lawyer doesn't mean you fight. Two, contrary to what people would like to think — or what the producers ram down your throat — some things can't be changed. Three, if some things can't be changed, I'm not going out of my way to give somebody an emotional display.

TVG: OK, so maybe you couldn't have fought for yourself, but you could have defended your position at least.
Willard: I can't get healthy [doing] that.

TVG: Were you ready to go home?
Willard: I was ready to stay for the whole time. Pain doesn't bother me, but being unable to perform physically is very frustrating. If I could have gotten to the merge, which I might have if they hadn't had that particular way of eliminating people, I'd still be there.

TVG: Your tribe thought you'd be a threat when it came to puzzle challenges. Were they right to worry?
Willard: Oh, yeah. They were right to be worried about that. I am smarter than any three of those suckers put together. I just broke down physically.

TVG: Why do you think your Koror tribe was more dominant?
Willard: One of the things that happened in the selection process was that young, pretty people picked young, pretty people. We got some of the better athletes — Tom, Ian, Gregg, Caryn and, in certain ways, Coby, who should not be underestimated.

TVG: It seemed like Katie might've been the first Koror to go.
Willard: Her strategy is to suck up to power. I don't know how successful it is going to be. It could go all the way, it could die right out. I am not a schmoozer. It is a social game, I know, but I didn't really expect to be there playing it.

TVG: Did your background in the Army and the Marines prepare you at all?
Willard: That had nothing to do with this. You have to understand, when you are in the military, you have a team or unit that is designed to take care of each other and work together to accomplish a common mission. You are not backstabbing each other. This is more like junior high school — and I was s----y in junior high school.

TVG: Why did you want to go on Survivor anyway?
Willard: I didn't. I had a bet with my secretary and my wife that I could figure out the casting process and get on the show, and I did. I created a character. I cut my body fat by two thirds and cut my cholesterol in half, had my ears pierced, grew a beard and adopted a persona throughout the interview process as a borderline psychotic who was probably going to explode in Episode 1. That's how I got selected. I didn't decide I was actually going until a week before. My wife said, "You won the bet. You might as well actually go."

TVG: Seriously?
Willard: It was easy. I deal with psychos for a living. I do custody disputes. They give you personality tests and I use those things every damned day.

FYI, Survivor: Palau airs tonight at 8 pm/ET on CBS due to NCAA basketball airing in its usual Thursday-night time slot. To read about last week's other Survivor castoff, click here.
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Imagine that, Angie does speak up....

#144 Postby Miss Mary » Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:33 am

Just found an interview with Angie also....

From TV Guide online
http://www.tvguide.com/news/insider/

Survivor's Barfly Angie Swatted
by Angel Cohn

Both the Koror and Ulong tribes voted off members on last week's Survivor: Palau, but things got worse for the rapidly dwindling Ulongers when Koror prevented their planned ouster of Ibrehem by granting him immunity. Scrambling for someone else to cut, Ulong had a tie vote between Bobby Jon Drinkard and Angie Jakusz. In the end, 24-year-old bartender Angie — best known for her freaky tattoos — got her torch snuffed. Here, she bellies up to the bar and shows TVGuide.com how she managed to last far longer than we ever expected.

TVGuide.com: The show kept blurring your chest area. What were they hiding? One of your tattoos?
Angie Jakusz: Nipples. The boobs just kept popping out of that bra — [my] girls were the first to leave. I lost 17 lbs., and it was all in my boobs. I didn't have that much to begin with. "Come back, ladies!"

TVG: You were also in skimpy panties, unlike the other female contestants.
Angie: People were like, "She should put on some clothes." Honey, it is not like I had a choice in this. Those other girls were wearing thongs — they were just embarrassed to take their clothes off. I'm comfortable with my body image. I'm sorry that size 6 models can't get down to their underpants because they are afraid that somebody is going to call them fat. I don't have that problem. I'm more about comfort than looks. This is not America's Next Top Model. I didn't come out here to have a fashion show.

TVG: What was your strategy when you started?
Angie: I totally wanted somebody to be the Rob to my Amber. I wanted to sit back with some loud guy who would take all the blame while I tagged along for the ride. I thought I found that in Coby. He's great — he's over the top and dishy and, as a bonus, I genuinely like him. It was perfect. Within the first five minutes [of the game] I thought, "I've totally got my man."

TVG: But Coby didn't pick you. Are you mad?
Angie: He blew my strategy to bits. But how can you be mad? Everybody's human. Coby did what he thought was best. Ultimately, it did end up being the better choice for him. It wasn't for me, but for him, it worked out better.

TVG: Your Ulong tribe had some tough luck. If Ibrehem hadn't gotten immunity, do you think you'd have stayed at least a few more days?
Angie: Definitely. It was really good to play Stephanie [against the guys], because she'd get so upset about losing. All I [had] to do was say, "Well, you know that the both of us did really good." And she totally took that on, like, "You are right. We did do good — it was the guys." I thought it was going to be totally easy once we got Ibrehem off. Bobby Jon and I talked about that for hours. He was like, "Me and Ibrehem are from Alabama and have this alliance." I worked so hard to get him to [agree] to vote for Ibrehem, which they didn't show any of.

TVG: So you did have alliances?
Angie: We did, but they weren't hard-core like, till-you-die alliances.

TVG: Ulong didn't have a leader. Think that was part of the problem?
Angie: No. I think that if people were better listeners, we would have been OK without a leader. But people didn't want to listen to anyone else. You can't have a leader when nobody wants to be a follower.

TVG: Think there's any way your tribe can make a comeback?
Angie: I don't know. Now you've got James, Bobby Jon and Ibrehem left. That's not exactly the smartest power trio right there.

TVG: Ibrehem looked like a strong guy, yet he didn't seem to pull his weight in challenges. What's up with that?
Angie: There is a difference from working out at the gym and being an occupationally strong person. He seemed like the kind of person who is not strong for strong's sake, but is strong for looks' sake.

TVG: The wrestling challenge was a perfect example. You and Stephanie made a comeback but the strong-looking men couldn't seem to win.
Angie: Which again shows lack of smarts on our tribe, because me and Stephanie were [coaching the guys] like, "You have to drop down. Do you see they are all dropping to the ground when they push you off? You are tall. Stay low. Center of balance is bad when you are tall." Did any of the guys get down? No, uh-uh. There was such a general lack of respect for women on our tribe that it was pathetic. Nobody would ever listen to me or Stephanie.

TVG: Why did you want to go on Survivor anyway?
Angie: Adventure on the high seas with a pirate crew. That was the life for me. Sign me up [next] for The Amazing Race. I'm down! [But] I don't think I could deal with The Surreal Life. I might look crazy, but those people are, like, mentally crazy.

FYI, Survivor: Palau airs tonight at 8 pm/ET on CBS due to NCAA basketball airing in its usual Thursday-night time slot. To read about last week's other Survivor castoff, click here.
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#145 Postby Skywatch_NC » Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:04 pm

And then there were 3... :eek: :roll:

And that's all I'll say until after Mary watches tonight's episode with her family! :wink:
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#146 Postby Miss Mary » Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:14 am

Okay, here's what I have to say.....warning, Spoiler ahead!!!

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Da 'Mush Mouth' is gone!!!!

Ole James didn't see that coming did he? After he was voted out, he just sat there. Stunned! Come on guy, tie up your toga there, and saunter on out....get your torch extinquished on your way out too.

I just thought it was funny how shocked he seemed! Later he said he wasn't ready to leave and was depressed or something. My reaction to what he said, Angie wasn't ready to go either and didn't deserve to go, IMHO.

So there, go take your place with Angie! LOL

His knot tying might have done him in?

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#147 Postby Brent » Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:12 am

James sealed his own fate messing with his toga instead of helping bring that wood in and then the stupid knots. I would have tied his HEAD inside of it! :lol:
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#148 Postby Miss Mary » Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:14 am

Jeff Probst sure made a big deal out of James messing with his toga. But why would anyone come to a challenge, not wearing real clothing? Silly - stupid, if you ask me. I muttered to my family, he's going to lose that thing if he doesn't tie it right. And someone said - yeah, that's what we want to see, James lose his toga....LOL

They sure made a big deal of James claiming to be an expert at knot tying also - from his Navy days....That declaration bit him in the butt I'd say! I guess it's much better to do a task very well and not brag about it.

*Edit....dang I forgot to record the ABC morning newshow. They have the newly voted off members on the morning after a Survivor episode....usually, at the top of the second hour. I wanted to hear what James had to say, b/c you KNOW he has definite opinions on his ousting.....LOL I'm taping now, but I think I missed it...:-(

Mary

PS - what did you all think of Janu's meltdown? Or Katie's busy activities? I like Tom's attitude - let's get chores down now while we're A. well fed and B. rested. Good thinking!
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#149 Postby Miss Mary » Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:48 am

MrsRob/Mary,

Here ya go...a few of us discussed this past episode. Must not have been exciting as the previous one. We added a few pages to this topic, when both tribes had to vote members off!!!

Discuss....

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#150 Postby sunny » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:44 pm

What the heck? Ulong is going back to tribal council AGAIN!
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#151 Postby MSRobi911 » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:26 pm

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Tonight sucked big time again!

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#152 Postby sunny » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:32 pm

MSRobi911 wrote:sunny/mary

Tonight sucked big time again!

Mary


I know Mary. I mean, come on. Let's get serious. WHAT IS LEFT TO MERGE?!!
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#153 Postby MSRobi911 » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:36 pm

Your right, they might as well just tell them to go home. When they do "merge" they will be picked off one after the other for the first two weeks. There is no way they can make agreements with anyone in that short of time. I just hate to see this happen to these guys. I know they have tried, but they have come up short every time and its so disheartening for them and I guess for me who has been pulling for them with the 3 Ala boys on there..........oh well...now down to one good ole boy! But ain't he a cutie!

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#154 Postby sunny » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:41 pm

Yeah - Bobby Jon is definately a cutie!! But I also like Tom!
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#155 Postby Skywatch_NC » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:54 pm

Quite impressive with Tom having tackled that shark!! :) And then eating some giant clam, too! :)

My guess...a tribal merge next week...c'mon Mark Burnett and Jeff Probst...stop holding out on the viewers, dudes! 8-)
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#156 Postby Miss Mary » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:30 pm

Interview with Ibrehem, from TV Guide's website....


http://www.tvguide.com/news/insider/050405b.asp
Survivor Stud Faces Religious Bias
by Angel Cohn

For those Survivor: Palau fans keeping score at home, Ibrehem Rahman is the seventh Ulong tribe member in a row to get snuffed. At least his physically strong appearance and kindly demeanor saved the 27-year-old Alabaman for a few weeks, despite his poor performance in challenges. Here, TVGuide.com sits down with Ibrehem to discuss swimming with sharks like the bigoted James.

TVGuide.com: During her farewell testimonial, Ashlee said she wished she'd cuddled with you. Have you called her up?
Ibrehem Rahman: I haven't. I don't know if she was serious. I think she might have been just talking.

TVG: When I interviewed James, he seemed like quite a character. Was he really that way on the island or is he putting us on?
Ibrehem: He's interesting. He had a lot of stuff to say all the time. None of it ever made much sense, but he had a lot to say.

TVG: He made some snide comments about your Muslim faith. Did that upset you?
Ibrehem: It was just ignorance, ignorance, ignorance. It didn't make any difference to me. Things roll off my back so easily. I wasn't surprised about James being ignorant. I wasn't surprised about Stephenie being wishy-washy.

TVG: James also says he's never needed to own a coat. You're also from Alabama. Do you have one?
Ibrehem: I think I was smart enough to get a coat. It actually gets cold down there sometimes. It's not Miami. Maybe he stays in that part of Alabama where you don't need a coat. [Shrugs] It's James.
TVG: You seem very religious. Was it hard to maintain integrity with all the lying and backstabbing going on?
Ibrehem: Well, I didn't do any lying and backstabbing.

TVG: But you were surrounded by it.
Ibrehem: I don't think that much went on. If it did, I was kind of blind to it or naïve toward it. I thought everybody was good people, but maybe that is what got me in the end. I trusted Bobby Jon to keep to what we had both agreed on at the beginning, that we were going to stick together. Didn't work out, man. Didn't happen.

TVG: Was it really like a family when it was you, Stephenie and Bobby Jon?
Ibrehem: It really was. I think we were all pretty good. I think Bobby Jon was good. Stephenie was a great player and really excelled at all the challenges. I felt like we needed everybody that we had when [we] got down to it.

TVG: The tattoo on your back is really cool looking.
Ibrehem: That wasn't a tattoo — I did it out there.

TVG: Really?
Ibrehem: [Laughs] No, I'm kidding. It was a tattoo.

TVG: What is the significance of it?
Ibrehem: It means truth in Arabic. That's why I had to tell the truth, girl.

TVG: You look like a strong guy, but you seemed to struggle with the challenges. What happened?
Ibrehem: I struggled a little with some of the water challenges, I think. You can go swim at the Y, but it is not like swimming in the ocean. I thought, "It's a TV show. It ain't gonna be that bad."

TVG: How hard was it to lose week after week?
Ibrehem: It was tough. I expected to win so much, especially when the tribes got picked. I looked at [the Koror] tribe, I was like, "We are about to kill these old people."

TVG: Which members of the "old people tribe" surprised you?
Ibrehem: He's not an old person, but Ian kind of surprised me. He looks pretty frail, but he's done good.

TVG: Finally, for fans who are curious, are you still single?
Ibrehem: Yes, I am.
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#157 Postby Miss Mary » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:34 am

Has anyone watched the promo's for tonight's show? They're quite comical. Real putdowns on Ulong.....you need to watch them, don't fast forward over those commericials.

Curious as to how tonight's episode will play out. Wouldn't it b interesting if they swapped camps for a day? Have Koror suffer over at Ulong's camp of sorts, scrounching for food, etc.? Maybe Ulong's spot on the island has brought them bad luck? LOL Naw.....here's what TV Guide has to say about this show and others to watch tonight, if you click on the link:

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Losing Proposition

Will the hapless Stephanie and Bobby Jon face a fatal vote on tonight's Survivor?

http://www.tvguide.com/tv/hotlist/

Survivor: Palau     [New]
8 pm/ET, CBS

After yet another heartbreaking immunity defeat, Survivor's Ulong is down to just two members — Stephenie and Bobby Jon. So what happens if they lose again? Their votes would cancel each other out. My bet is that the long-awaited merger happens tonight. (If not, when?) And if it doesn't occur this evening and Ulong loses, it would be fun to watch the Koror tribe vote out Steph or B.J., or let these two consummate losers undertake a challenge to see who stays. — Tim Holland

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Can't see Jeff Probst and gang making this easy on Ulong. He wouldn't just show up the next day and say - we feel sorry for your tribe of two, so we'll merge you with Koror. No, that's way too easy.....

Thoughts? Anyone Survivor vets from the first one have ideas on how this will play out tonight?

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#158 Postby sunny » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:35 am

I think they will probably merge tonight. That's just my thoughts, though!
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#159 Postby Miss Mary » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:43 am

sunny wrote:I think they will probably merge tonight. That's just my thoughts, though!


I initially thought that but isn't that what viewers expect to happen? And wouldn't it be typical if producers shake things up even more? I don't know how but I just don't see them merging both tribes so easily. There will be twists somewhere in there I suspect.

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#160 Postby Pburgh » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:58 am

I kinda think it will be something really different this time - a merge with a twist as Mary said.
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