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#5121 Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:52 am

This is really pissing me off TT... Why can't you answer any of my questions... Maybe that is your trick, you only answer what you know you can answer correctly.... Stuff that doesn't require any thought or research... You sure are taking the easy way out of a lot of things... The numbers for this month are VERY VERY VERY VERY NORMAL YES INDEED WE CAN ALL SEE THAT... IT IS PLAIN AND OBVIOUS... BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK PAST THE NUMBERS... Many of the patterns this month have resembled older phase types of patterns... Just like the one for late week, all of the analogs are pre 1970... VERY VERY SIMILAR TO April 19-20 of 1951... How can you ignore that this is old time stuff? IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING ALL YEAR LONG, DESPITE THE NUMBERS...
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#5122 Postby andycottle » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:00 am

Despite cloudy skies for much of day...and clouds not breaking up till around 4pm or so :roll: ...temps were alright. Mid-upper 60`s. Then when the sun did come out...my temp made it as high 70 degrees before droping back to the upper 60`s again. So over all, I guess it was`nt too bad of a day.

-- Andy
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#5123 Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:09 am

WHY DOESNT ANYONE LOOK AT WHAT I SAY? DOESN'T ANYONE REALIZE WHAT I AM SAYING? OR IS EVERYONE BLIND?
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#5124 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:25 am

Actually Brennan... 1951 did not show up on the analog years list today.


But once again... 1993 is there. Over and over again.


Look for consistency.
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#5125 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:30 am

Overall the spring of 1951 was MUCH different.

And much colder in Seattle.

Not even close to a match.

Unlike 1993.

I have done my research.

This has been a normal April... with normal patterns.
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#5126 Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:20 am

Hey Pal, I guarentee you that this upcoming week looks very similar to april 20th of 1951... I know that for a fact... I am not talking about the overall month, but the current pattern for this week.
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#5127 Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:24 am

In fact, you most definately cannot prove that there was any closer match... I can.
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#5128 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:58 am

Brennan... saying you have proof is not proof.

Are you going by personal memory of April 20, 1951?? :D


Show me your evidence. Screaming at everyone to pay attention to you is not very convincing evidence!!

And maybe the pattern was similar... but if the whole season and the global indexes were different then it is just a coincidence and not indicative of what will happen for the rest of this year.

Similar patterns can coincidentally occur at times.

I know that 1951 is not a match to 2005. So whatever happened in 1951 is not a guide to what will happen in 2005.
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#5129 Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:43 pm

I'm sorry TT, but i do indeed have proof for later in this week... Snow wizzard uncovered a golden site that has 500mb height maps back to 1948... I give him unlimited cootos... The pattern for the end of the week is SOOOO SIMILAR... It hasn't been this similar for this time of year for over 50 years... OHHHH, but its normal...
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#5130 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:24 pm

Brennan... so many points and so little time.

1) I need a link to that site. That would be awesome.

2) Did you go through every spring season looking at the 500mb pattern over North America? If its so similar why is it not on the analog years list.

3) The pattern for the next week just does not look that stange. A polar vortex right where it should be between Alaska and Greenland near the Arctic Circle. General zonal flow across the northern U.S.

Here is early next week...

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#5131 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:36 pm

So... Snow_Wizzard is communicating with you but not the rest of us?? Strange indeed. Why everything is taken so personally is WAY beyond me.

One of the important signs he was looking for was a significantly cold April which is supposed to lead to a brutal winter most of the time. We do NOT have that so now we are trying to find specific patterns that existed prior to cold winters??

This is not true research. This is trying to find bits and pieces of evidence from the spring prior to a snowy winter. While completely missing the big picture.

Too much emotion... too much drama... no objectivity.
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#5132 Postby andycottle » Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:48 pm

Helloooo all! A nice sunny afternoon here with the majority of the clouds now gone. My temp right now is 63 with DP at 55 as of 12:55pm.
-- Andy
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#5133 Postby R-Dub » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:46 pm

Well after a foggy AM, it turned into a sunny and warm PM! Currently 66 degrees and Sunny.

Sorry to Brennan and everyone else that thinks this is a abnormal April, but its NOT! Rainy and cool for the first half of the month, then more sun and warmer temps for the second half.

What is NOT normal about this April???? I sure can't think of anything.
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#5134 Postby andycottle » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:17 pm

A nice sunny late afternoon with a temp of 71 degrees here. What a nice afternoon! 8-)
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#5135 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:36 pm

69 degrees and sunny at Sea-Tac.

Gotta love it. The next few days will be cooler but I thought today was lost as well.

R-Dub... I totally agree. In Western Washington this month has been NORMAL.

Some people spend all their time trying to prove its not!!
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#5136 Postby andycottle » Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:01 pm

72 degrees and sunny skies here at 4:08pm.
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#5137 Postby AnthonyC » Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:52 pm

An awesome afternoon...I was doubting this sunny weather after the extensive fog this morning. I've never seen fog this dense so late in the season...it's almost MAY!

Tomorrow should be another beautiful day as the strong ridge slowly retrogrades to 135W. With a northerly breeze, there should be LIMITED morning fog/low clouds...if any. Temperatures could be a few degrees warmer than today...could some places approach the 80-degree mark?! It remains to be seen.

Friday thru Sunday is up in the air...I just noticed that NWS added a chance of rain to the forecast. Looking at latest models, I don't think this will happen. The ridge will be firmly in place and nothing should make it through. My prediction is partly cloudy and cooler...temperatures in the upper 50s, lower 60s...but NO RAIN.

You gotta love this weather!!

Anthony
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#5138 Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:16 pm

actually TT we have been talking on AIM since November... And no i am not talking about next week... I AM TALKING ABOUT TODAY AND TOMORROW AND FRIDAY AND SATURDAY... READ CLOSER... NOT NEXT WEEK THAT IS STRANGE... THIS WEEK... And heck no i am not giving you the link to that site and i guarentee you snow wizzard won't either... And plus, what do you need it for? you know everything already anyways...
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#5139 Postby Guest » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:18 pm

It has been really warm here today but the NNE is blowing like crazy and the dry air is making my face dry... THe dew point is 28* and the humitidy is 20%..............................
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#5140 Postby invisible » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:35 pm

I think you should respect to other people's opinino, TT-SEA. I dont understand why u just keep asking about evidence. You think u know everything. That's not true. This forum begins apart down because of u. Thank you
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