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#81 Postby GalvestonDuck » Sun May 01, 2005 9:52 pm

Brent wrote:I've got to say it...

I think Tom's being having at the VERY least an affair with his old girlfriend. I wouldn't be surprised if we learn of more kids with her.

Oh when Lynette finds out I'll probably hear the explosion here! :eek: :lol:


The old girlfriend's name might be very fitting -- Annabelle (she be a 'ho!). :lol:
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#82 Postby Miss Mary » Mon May 02, 2005 6:14 am

I wondered if Mike was Zach/Dana's father. Now that Susan has remaining feelings for Mike, if they're rekindled, and the truth comes out, what if Mike/Susan/Zach/Julie become one big happy family? Mmmmmm......that sounds rocky!

Did you all catch the word ~desperate~ twice in last night's episode? Had to laugh at that.

I'm not so sure Tom is having an affair with the ex-g/f but Lynette sure seemed to almost push them together after last night's show. I wouldn't be surprised if this couple goes thru a separation, unlike Bree's goofy one. If Tom/Lynnette have trouble, Lynnette will maybe once and for all, get it together. Because she'd have to! That would make for a good storyline.

I'm thinking Gabby's baby is Carlos' child. He always seems to have the final say in that relationship. Since she knows he's been replacing BC pills with placebo's, he'll tell her he's been doing so for months. Making it impossible for the lawn boy to be the father. Dashing her hopes once again.

The Pharmacist dude is really, really creepy. Zach is just one messed up kid, no wonder, but that George is disturbing. Watch him kidnap Bree in the finale.

Mary

PS - edit.....question. The detective Susan is shown hiring to investigate Zach's family, do we already know him? I've missed a few episodes but I thought he looked familiar and knew he would be, by not revealing his face until the end. Is he a good guy - working for the FBI? Or in cahoots with Mike and Deidre's dad?
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#83 Postby Pburgh » Mon May 02, 2005 7:49 am

Mary, Paul hired him to find out who was blackmailing Mary Alice. At first the detective thought it was Edie. Paul had told the detective to kill her. Then he found out that it was Mrs. Huber and you know what happened next.
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#84 Postby Miss Mary » Mon May 02, 2005 7:56 am

OH NO....I remember now, he encountered Edie on the road, when she had car trouble didn't he?

Thought Susan was safe. Now I see she's not. Mike's going to look out for her though.

So what this all comes down to is Mary Alice just wasn't the good person she portrayed herself to be? Even if Zach's mother was a terrible mother, drug addict, whatever, kidnapping is never to be condoned! No wonder that kid is so messed up. And how did he ever find out about he was called Dana once? Was he adopted as an infant or older, when he would remember his real name is Dana? He told Julie he killed his little sister. This was to cover up for there being a Dana, right? Or is there really a little sister too, that's deceased?

Wow, so many questions today. And just when I thought I had this all figured out.

You know what David Letterman calls this shows don't you? "Careless Housewives". I swear I keep thinking of him now, when I watch the show. Teri Hatcher was just on his show last week.

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#85 Postby Miss Mary » Mon May 02, 2005 8:57 am

TV Guide's Monday Morning DH critique.....I forgot clean about mentioning Gabby's pharmacy restroom visit. First off, if you're dreading a positive outcome, why would you visit a pharmacy where you may run into a neighbor or the pharmacist knows a neighbor? Second, why use the pharmacy restroom to take it? Then again, I guess she couldn't use the bathroom at home, Carlos might catch her. Third, wasn't this technically, theft? She shop-lifted that test, used it, discarded it, didn't even pay for it! And lastly, do current pregnancy tests really work that fast now? I remember them taking at least 10 minutes and it had to be taken when you got up in the morning. Not later in the day, if you get my drift.....okay, onto the critique, and by a man, no less!!!

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When Gabrielle went into the pharmacy's restroom to use her brand new pregnancy test, you knew it wasn't going to be pretty. But her off-screen "Son of a mean lady!" followed by a courteous "You're out of toilet paper" to George was easily the funniest moment of the episode. However, the most tense moment was a toss-up. Paul not-so-subtly threatening Susan was up there certainly. I am so thankful though, that, in what seems to be a first in television history, someone actually pretended to just go along with a villain until they were out of harm's way. Susan screws up a lot of things, but actively avoiding a murderer isn't one of them. Her post-explosion decision to call a private investigator — coincidentally the same one Paul used (Richard Roundtree) — ought to be interesting. With Zach on the road (or lane) to snapping like a psychotic twig, it can't hurt to have some protection (assuming the P.I. stays on Susan and Julie's side). Maybe Zach can compare notes with George, who seems to get a little more maniacal each time we see him.

Tom and Lynette took an ugly and uncomfortable turn in their marriage. That last scene where they both said way more than they should have was (purposely) painful to watch. (Suddenly, those rambunctious boys aren't their biggest problem.) The question is whether we'll discover the secret Tom confided to Ryan O'Neal before the end of the season. Well, as long as he didn't sleep with Gabrielle, it should be OK. — Danny Spiegel
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#86 Postby Brent » Mon May 02, 2005 8:58 am

Miss Mary wrote:Did you all catch the word ~desperate~ twice in last night's episode? Had to laugh at that.


Yes... that was funny. :lol:

Susan SHOULD have taken Mike's advice and left Paul alone, now I think she's in big trouble. :( LISTEN TO MIKE!!!

I think John is going to wind up being the father... think how great a storyline it would be. Carlos goes through all the trouble of changing the pills and then it ends up NOT being his.

:slime:

What continues to disturb me about Annabel is that Lynette didn't find out for THREE months(and if she hadn't walked in that day and saw her, it might have been longer). It calls into question what he's been doing on all those business trips. :think:
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#87 Postby Miss Mary » Mon May 02, 2005 9:03 am

Brent - watch there be a double pregnancy.....Gabby and this Annabelle (she be a 'ho).......LOL

I'm looking at Lynnette a little differently these days. She not only didn't want to become a stay at home mom (something I loved) but she broke up a serious relationship. She came between Annabelle and Tom. She used to be my favorite wife. Now I'm not so sure.

Not saying Tom should cheat now, he's married with FOUR kids, count em......but Lynnette was in the wrong in the past to be the third party back then.

The actress playing Annabelle sure did a turnaround, TV show wise. A few months ago she played John Goodman's TV sister on the now cancelled Center of the Universe. She didn't look like she does now, layered hair, confidence, makeup, on Center.....two completely different characters! Almost didn't recognize her.

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#88 Postby Brent » Mon May 02, 2005 9:54 am

Miss Mary wrote:The actress playing Annabelle sure did a turnaround, TV show wise. A few months ago she played John Goodman's TV sister on the now cancelled Center of the Universe. She didn't look like she does now, layered hair, confidence, makeup, on Center.....two completely different characters! Almost didn't recognize her.


Melinda McGraw? Yeah... back about 2 months ago when this episode was close to going into production I saw that she was joining the cast as a "woman from Chicago"
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#89 Postby GalvestonDuck » Mon May 02, 2005 11:06 am

Miss Mary wrote:TV Guide's Monday Morning DH critique.....I forgot clean about mentioning Gabby's pharmacy restroom visit. First off, if you're dreading a positive outcome, why would you visit a pharmacy where you may run into a neighbor or the pharmacist knows a neighbor? Second, why use the pharmacy restroom to take it? Then again, I guess she couldn't use the bathroom at home, Carlos might catch her. Third, wasn't this technically, theft? She shop-lifted that test, used it, discarded it, didn't even pay for it! And lastly, do current pregnancy tests really work that fast now? I remember them taking at least 10 minutes and it had to be taken when you got up in the morning. Not later in the day, if you get my drift.....okay, onto the critique, and by a man, no less!!!


The urine pregnancy test kits we used in the ER took 3 minutes, although if there was a high enough level of HCG, the positive line might show sooner than three minutes. But we still had to wait that long for the negatives, just to be absolutely certain. Also we noticed that with patients who had miscarried, it would be negative after three minutes; however, it would eventually show a faint "positive" line after a half hour or so, indicating that there were still traces of HCG in the patient's urine, but not high enough to show the patient was pregnant. Of course, more often than not, we sent blood to the lab for the quantitative serum test when the patient was actually being seen for some sort of pregnancy complication, or for trauma patients. The urine tests were used for females of child-bearing age with abdominal pain who needed X-rays (so we knew for certain that it was safe AND that they were, in fact, not in pain due to a pregnancy). Also, we ran urine tests in addition to the serum test on trauma patients.

As for the time of day, that didn't seem to matter, but for the home tests, there might be a difference.

You thought the same thing I did, Mary, when she walked out without paying for it! What's up with that? :lol:
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#90 Postby Miss Mary » Mon May 02, 2005 12:01 pm

Shawn - she threw a lavish going away party for her husband and didn't pay for that pregnancy test? Guess the news upset her so much.....I'm also glad she didn't drink the Champagne. If she had, there just wouldn't be anything to like about her character! And there isn't much right now but at least she didn't take in alcohol. Thanks for explanation on the p. tests. I remember having to use first am urine, since it would have a higher concentration of the HCG you mentioned. And I remember waiting an enternity to see that positive results!

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#91 Postby Brent » Mon May 02, 2005 2:15 pm

Ratings for last night were once again spectacular... crushing all the competition.

“Desperate Housewives” (9:00-10:00 p.m.)
ABC’s “Desperate Housewives” dominated its time period. “Desperate Housewives” topped the
opening hour of CBS’ Sunday Movie, “Riding the Bus with My Sister,” by nearly 12 million viewers
(25.9 million vs. 14.1 million). Among Adults 18-49, “Desperate Housewives” outdrew its closest
competition by 119% (11.4/25 vs. 5.2/11 – Fox).

• “Desperate Housewives” produced the series’ second-highest numbers ever among Total Viewers
(25.9 million), Adults 18-49 (11.4/25) and Adults 25-54 (12.9/26). In the key Adult 18-49 sales
demographic, it was the third-highest-rated telecast of any scripted series this season.
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#92 Postby GalvestonDuck » Tue May 03, 2005 10:52 am

Did I miss this?

http://www.tv-now.com/daily/news.htm

Felicity Huffman: The Desperate Housewives star shouldn't really be desperate. She is married to one of the best actors on the planet, William H. Macy, and co-stars on the hottest tube show on television. But desperate she is ... or at least it appeared that way over the weekend at the GLAAD media awards event in Hollywood. After kissing series co-star Marcia Cross during the show, Huffman told Access Hollywood, "I've been wanting to do that all year." Cross suggested that her publicist would not have let the lip-lock occur if it had been a staged moment. I have a feeling that Macy and the publicist think alike.


Is this something that has yet to occur? I'm sure there would have already been comments if Lynette had kissed Bree...or vice versa.
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#93 Postby Brent » Sun May 08, 2005 10:58 pm

OMG... I didn't think it was possible, but tonight was possibly the best episode ever. That scene with Felicia and Paul was just incredible. Scared the heck out of me when I saw Felicia with that knife after he left. I was so worried that he was giving Zach more than "tranquilzers"

Poor Rex. :(

Bad Bad Bree... or as Edie would say "Naughty, Naughty". I wonder how long it'll be before she realizes George is a bad guy, or how many victims he will have claimed by then?

I KNEW IT!!! Mike was a good guy. Didn't know Deidre was so bad though!

Ladies... how was Tom in that speedo? :eek:

Carlos... what a liar. Trying to blame his dead mother(God rest her soul) for the switching of the pills. Be a man and own up to it.

I really think the baby is John's, especially after he said "I should have wore a condom"

Next week is the episode before the finale against SURVIVOR. Ugh... decisions, decisions.

Preview looks awesome. Susan and Mike are moving in together! :)
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#94 Postby Brent » Mon May 09, 2005 5:50 pm

FINALE SPOILERS BELOW!! DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW!! I will just say... it's going to be quite possibly the best hour of television ever.










































From Spoilerfix.com

05/09 - I’m hearing we will finally get more on Tom's secret (possibly the whole enchilada), on the May 22 finale. Here’s the deal, though: I know the ORIGINAL plan was to have him something of a two-timer, as I told you way back when, but I’m not sure whether Marc Cherry has revamped that storyline. He has been known to tinker with plotpoints once they get out. So, we’re all in the same boat on that one: Nowhere. Source: Kristin on E!Online

Plus all of this...

04/22 - Someone is in a rehab center, another in jail, and Karl will be in this episode. Source: SpoilerFix.com
04/21 - It’s a not-so-wonderful day in the neighborhood, as past actions come back to haunt the men and women of Wisteria Lane. Meanwhile, the ladies get a new neighbor (Emmy winner Alfre Woodard as Betty Applewhite. Ms. Woodard becomes a series regular next season). Source: ABC
04/20 - Kevin Murphy [said that] in the finale, viewers are "going to learn a lot about what happened the day Mary Alice shot herself. The episode is going to take place as much in the past as the present. There's going to be a lot of going back and exploring the roots of the mysteries that were introduced in the pilot. And there will be a gigantic cliff-hanger in the end." Source: Ask Ausiello @ TVGuide
04/20 - Kevin Murphy also confirmed that another VIP along Wisteria Lane will be pushing up daisies with Mrs. Huber by season's end. "And when we say we're going to kill a character," he teases, "it's not going to be Mailman No. 3. It's going to be a character we know and love and/or hate." Source: Ask Ausiello @ TVGuide
04/17 - The episode will find one of the Desperate Couples in court, after the female half of the couple attacks a woman that she thought was having an affair with her partner. The couple has to try as hard as possible to charm the judge into believing it was all a simple misunderstanding. Meanwhile, a fight erupts between Bree van de Kamp's son Andrew and the gay gardener Justin, who were recently seen sexually experimenting with each other. It seems this is only the beginning of a storyline next season that will focus on the darker side of Andrew.
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#95 Postby GalvestonDuck » Mon May 09, 2005 7:32 pm

Did you guys get to see the "Secret Scene" on GMA this morning?
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#96 Postby Brent » Mon May 09, 2005 8:12 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:Did you guys get to see the "Secret Scene" on GMA this morning?


I did... I actually recorded the show(since I am asleep at that hour) and watched it. I really hope all these deleted scenes are on the DVD's when they come out in September, because that one was really good. I was rolling when the car George was "supposedly" fixing took off after another woman got in. :P There went Bree's story. :wink:
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#97 Postby Brent » Mon May 09, 2005 8:14 pm

More spoilers:

The next three crucial episodes (ABC, Sundays, 8 p.m.), culminating with the cliffhanger, will show the events that led Mary Alice Young to shoot herself in the opening episode, introduce a new housewife with a major mystery of her own, and place the futures of several characters in serious jeopardy. The Applewhites will be introduced to Wisteria Lane by real estate agent Edie Britt. All Marc Cherry will say about the Applewhites is that "they come on the street; they seem like nice people - but they've got a secret. And it's pretty gothic. It's real and human and awful all at the same time."As the season winds down, nearly all of the desperate husbands are placed in jeopardy as Rex Van De Kamp (Steven Culp) unwittingly takes sugar pills to treat his serious heart condition, Tom Scavo (Doug Savant) harbors a secret that threatens to destroy his marriage and Paul Young (Mark Moses) faces his comeuppance for the murder of Mrs. Huber. And putting into question the fate of Gabrielle's current men - lover John (Metcalfe) and husband Carlos (Ricardo Antonio Chavira), who is headed off to prison - Cherry and his writers are conceiving a new suitor for Gabrielle in Season 2. Source: USA Today (Thanks Shannon for the tip.)

Creator Marc Cherry says: "Lynette will have a job next season (returning to her advertising roots), so I want to address how difficult it is to go to work all day and then come home and be expected to also take care of your house." All Marc Cherry will say about the Applewhites is that "they come on the street; they seem like nice people - but they've got a secret. And it's pretty gothic. It's real and human and awful all at the same time." Edie will stay a fifth wheel. Because of viewers' strong reaction to Nicollette Sheridan, her character next season will be given a never-before-seen ex-husband and a 6-year-old son. But Cherry insists Edie will continue serving only as a spoiler to complicate the other women's lives.The future appears far bleaker for the show's male cast; only breakout stud Denton (Mike Delfino) is a likely candidate for series longevity.
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#98 Postby Miss Mary » Tue May 10, 2005 7:24 am

Thanks Brent, for the spoilers. I must admit, I read them.

Did they help? Am I less confused? NO!!! LOL

I post on another board and members there are discussing all the storylines going around. Main questions are these - was Zach actually Dana? Or was there a female baby named Dana, who Zach accidentally killed? Members there can't forget Zach told Julie, he killed his little sister.

Next question....which wife will die, do you think? Spoiler implies it's a major character. The two that are safe are Susan and Bree, IMO. Next would be Lynnette. All 3 have major storylines and I just can't see any of them, being axed. The writers would be fools to eliminate these characters. That leaves Edie and Gabby. If it was Gabby, I'd say good riddance. Wouldn't miss her one bit. But Edie just hasn't had a really good storyline, so I'd surprised if she went. There's just no mystery with her. Gabby's story is front and center. I'm just hoping it's her.

I am surprised the writers want to kill off a major character. Having Mary Alice die right away made sense. We didn't get attached to her character. But it's always risky to kill a character off many viewers will like (like on Lost, when Boone died). That's why I still hope it's Gabby. There's not much to like about her.

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#99 Postby Brent » Tue May 10, 2005 10:35 pm

I don't think it's a wife that dies... it's likely one of the husbands/men.

Here's a TON of stuff. This is going to be... I just cannot describe it.

ONCE AGAIN

DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW! THIS IS MAJOR!























1. New neighbor moves in.
2. Susan, Mike and Felicia team up to bring Paul down.
3. Paul lets us know more about Mary Alice's suicide.
4. Felicia fills in blanks even Paul did not know about.
5. Paul gets in trouble for killing Mrs. Huber
6. In the end something shocking about Zach.
7. A fight between Andrew and the guy he was kissing in
the pool.
8. Rex in the hospital in serious trouble.
9. Lynette and Tom in court against Annabel.
10. Secret about Annabel threatens their marriage even more.
11. Carlos finds out about John and his actions threaten many before he goes to jail.

The explosive first season finale will include some huge events, though the show's keeping mum on details, except to say that the show will take place as much in the past as in the present. Flashbacks will feature: Felicia and Angela (Mary Alice) working together; Mary Alice and Paul with a young Zach. Paul and Felicia both know additional info about the Mary Alice mystery and all will be revealed--and it looks like Paul may get the comeuppance he deserves.

They'll also introduce Alfre Woodard as Mrs. Betty Applewhite, a very religious woman who's trying to keep her 22 year old son Matthew on a short leash (not literally!) after something happened between him and a woman. Betty has a huge secret and apparently we'll learn something about it in the season finale. The secret is gothic but real, human, and awful.

Gabrielle has a confrontation with John. Carlos learns the truth about John and Gabrielle's affair and nothing will ever be the same for this love triangle!

The show shot two final scenes for the end and only one of them is going to air. Apparently the fate of a certain character or two is up in the air..and even the actor playing this character doesn't know what happens next.

Someone is going to die. It won't be someone introduced just to die, but will be someone we already love or love to hate.

In an upcoming episode they'll spill the secret on Tom's secret but one thing seems clear: Tom did NOT have a mere affair. His secret will not be whatever it is that you're expecting.

Justin will be back--but look for a major argument between Justin and Andrew.

The last scene the four housewives will be in together this season involves the women huddling on a hospital couch. (That does NOT mean this is the last scene of the show this season.)
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#100 Postby Miss Mary » Tue May 10, 2005 10:53 pm

I hope this finale is 3 hours long! he he How can they cram it all into one hour, I wonder!

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Re: Tom/Lynnette/Annabelle. Could the big secret be that Annabelle is pregnant or was pregnant, years ago and has a child by Tom? Or, has Tom married both women. He might have married Annabelle first, thought she annulled it, she didn't and he married Lynnette next. Which would make the 4 kids illegitimate.

Can you tell I've watched only a few soaps in my day? LOL

I'm hoping it's a husband that dies. I don't want a wife to die, even though Gabby is my least favorite. A lot of fans like her.

That leaves which husband. The spoiler implies it's someone we love or love to hate. Up until Annabelle showed up, we liked Tom didn't we? Sure he traveled but seemed to really love his wife. Scratch him off. We like Rex okay, don't we? You almost feel sorry for him, having to live with such an anal retentive wife. Although Bree has seemed more human of late and less Stepford-wifey. Carlos - eh, kill the creep! Seriously, his death almost seems too obvious. He has a hold over Gabby, w/o him I don't know how she'd do on her own. Can't see him being written off. Paul's too obvious of a choice. We're expecting him to be arrested or murdered. Nothing shocking there. Just hope it's not Mike.

I post on another board as I mentioned, that started from watching Knots Landing. A few are so confused about DH. Shawn/Duckie gave me a link for last week's ER episode, since I missed part of it. Whoa, this site is thorough. Fans type near-transcripts, word for word, dialogue, paragraph by paragraph for each episode. Not just DH, but many other shows too. Here's the DH link if anyone needs to catch up on a past episode:

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=142

And other shows summarized:

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/shows.cgi
(Lost is one show, if anyone wanted to catch up on that confusing show!). These episode summaries are multiple pages and I'm amazed fans have the time to put these together!

Mary
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