Extreme warm waters in all of Caribbean now...

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
Anonymous

Extreme warm waters in all of Caribbean now...

#1 Postby Anonymous » Wed May 04, 2005 3:25 pm

Image

WOW. If we have a Charley-type hurricane again, imagine a Category 4 before Cuba.
0 likes   

JTD
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1558
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2003 6:35 pm

#2 Postby JTD » Wed May 04, 2005 3:38 pm

Don't forget Ivan and Francis were majors before Cuba (I know Francis didn't affect Cuba but still). I think if you had a category 4 in the caribbean going into a GOM that had low shear at the time, you could easily have a major major category 5.

So, yeah, I agree with you. :D
0 likes   

chadtm80

#3 Postby chadtm80 » Wed May 04, 2005 3:42 pm

Floyd just for fun do you have anything from this time last year for us to compare to?
0 likes   

Anonymous

#4 Postby Anonymous » Wed May 04, 2005 4:18 pm

Afraid not. What worries me about these waters, is instead of having a 135 mph north of islands like Frances, that then moves into the Bahamas and peaks at 145 mph, that by the time the storms this year may get north of the islands, it could already be a Category 5, and continues strengthening to 165-175 mph in the Bahamas.
0 likes   

Scorpion

#5 Postby Scorpion » Wed May 04, 2005 4:20 pm

It would be better news for a hurricane to peak farther away from land, because most likely it will arrive at shore weakened due to shear or dry air.
0 likes   

User avatar
BayouVenteux
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 775
Age: 64
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 3:26 pm
Location: Ascension Parish, Louisiana (30.3 N 91.0 W)

#6 Postby BayouVenteux » Wed May 04, 2005 5:20 pm

chadtm80 wrote:Floyd just for fun do you have anything from this time last year for us to compare to?


Image

FWIW, here's an OTIS SST map from May 6, 2004...temps in Celsius of course...oh well, nobody's perfect :wink: . You do see some general similarities...a very warm western Caribbean and a tongue of relatively warmer water in the eastern Gulf extending from Cuba NW'ward.
0 likes   

Derecho
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1011
Joined: Sat Mar 15, 2003 3:15 pm

"Extreme?" Give me a break...

#7 Postby Derecho » Wed May 04, 2005 5:23 pm

NCODA has the Caribbean with +1 C to +1.5C anomalies. That isn't extreme in my book.

The reason there isn't a year-round Atlantic Tropical season isn't because the water is too cold in the winter. It's because of shear. Shear defines the beginning and end of the season.

Were it not for the extreme shear that generally exists from Dec-May there would be tropical systems forming in the Caribbean year-round as it can support tropical systems, SST-wise, year round.
0 likes   

kevin

#8 Postby kevin » Wed May 04, 2005 5:27 pm

What causes increased shear, is it the fronts which come down into the tropics?
0 likes   

User avatar
MGC
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 5937
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2003 9:05 pm
Location: Pass Christian MS, or what is left.

#9 Postby MGC » Wed May 04, 2005 5:54 pm

In the summer it is usually upper level lows that cause the shear. However, early and late in the season the UL westerlies can be a factor....MGC
0 likes   

User avatar
senorpepr
Military Met/Moderator
Military Met/Moderator
Posts: 12542
Age: 43
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:22 pm
Location: Mackenbach, Germany
Contact:

#10 Postby senorpepr » Wed May 04, 2005 6:04 pm

I'm going to have to agree with Derecho on this... it isn't extreme warmth at all, but yes... it is above normal.

Image
0 likes   

User avatar
senorpepr
Military Met/Moderator
Military Met/Moderator
Posts: 12542
Age: 43
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:22 pm
Location: Mackenbach, Germany
Contact:

#11 Postby senorpepr » Wed May 04, 2005 6:05 pm

Image
0 likes   

cyclonaut

#12 Postby cyclonaut » Wed May 04, 2005 8:21 pm

How about those 3+ anomolies off Africa.

I swear that looks like some kind of Atlantic El Nino.
0 likes   

kevin

#13 Postby kevin » Wed May 04, 2005 8:42 pm

Methane Mike would say its the dams or something. *blinks* It does look rather interesting right where the waves will start emerging.
0 likes   

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23703
Age: 47
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

#14 Postby gatorcane » Wed May 04, 2005 8:42 pm

I'm starting to get nervous, if the waters are warming this much and there is minimal el nino we could see a very active season. The next question is what will the mid and low-level steering currents look like? Will we have a similar setup to last year with dominant highs across the Atlantic? That will be another topic of discussion. :)
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 561 guests