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LUCK OR PROTECTED?

#1 Postby bucman1 » Sun May 15, 2005 7:30 pm

Tampa has not been protected since 1921,Luck or does geografhy protect them?
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Re: LUCK OR PROTECTED?

#2 Postby southerngale » Sun May 15, 2005 7:37 pm

bucman1 wrote:Tampa has not been protected since 1921,Luck or does geografhy protect them?


Didn't you mean "Tampa has not been hit..."? :wink:
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CORRECT

#3 Postby bucman1 » Sun May 15, 2005 7:41 pm

i apologize,the question should read Tampa has not been hit from a hurricane since 1921 is it luck or are they protcted geographically?
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#4 Postby cyclonaut » Sun May 15, 2005 9:02 pm

I dont know what it is but Tampa is surely not geographically safe.

It will happen eventually.
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#5 Postby feederband » Sun May 15, 2005 10:30 pm

I say luck.. Is there such a safe place geograhically in the gulf or the atlantic sea board .................? :?:
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#6 Postby MWatkins » Sun May 15, 2005 10:57 pm

LUCK. And small sample size. Tampa has been VERY lucky. Just like Florida in general was lucky before 2004 and VERY LUCKY last year.

Tampa is not protected at all. They have just been fortunate.

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#7 Postby Anonymous » Sun May 15, 2005 11:30 pm

Luck. Had Charley continued on his original track, he would have had six more hours over water. He was already 150 mph at 5pm...by 11pm he would have probably been around Andrew intensity of 160-170 mph, and would have gone right up Tampa Bay. Also, he would have had more time to build up a surge and all that water would have been pushed into Tampa Bay. So, imagine a Category 5 hurricane, with a 15-18 foot surge, going right up Tampa Bay....Tampa got lucky.
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Re: LUCK OR PROTECTED?

#8 Postby caneman » Mon May 16, 2005 5:02 am

bucman1 wrote:Tampa has not been protected since 1921,Luck or does geografhy protect them?


Yes, luck from a major Hurricane but Frances and JEanne came thru at 70 to 75 mph respectively. I personally lost power for 13 days combined days from both so I'm not sure you would consider that luck.
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#9 Postby wxman57 » Mon May 16, 2005 6:02 am

But Tampa has been hit quite a bit since 1921. What data are you using to make the statement that Tampa hasn't been "hit"? Now, Tampa was hit frequently up until the Atlantic cooled off in the late 60s. Since the Atlantic shifted to "cold phase", Tampa hasn't been hit by hurricane-force winds. But the Atlantic is heating up again, and Florida will likely be hit by quite a few hurricanes in the coming decades. See this page I posted for more inflo on Atlantic SST regimes and Florida impacts:

http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/florida/

These are just a few of the many examples since 1921.

<img src="http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1944/11/track.gif">

<img src="http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1946/5/track.gif">

<img src="http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1950/EASY/track.gif">

<img src="http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/1960/DONNA/track.gif">
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#10 Postby Josephine96 » Mon May 16, 2005 7:40 am

If number 5 would have kept going west.. It would have hit florida twice.. :eek:
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LAST TIME A DIRECT HIT WAS 1921-THAT MIGHT MEAN 65 NM

#11 Postby bucman1 » Mon May 16, 2005 7:47 am

I AGREE WITH YOUR POSTS,BUT THERE IS A MAJOR MISNOTION BY MANY THAT THE TAMPA/ST.PETE AREA IS PROTECTED JUST LIKE ,LETS SAY JACKSONVILLE, WHICH I BELEIEVE HAS NEVER BEEN HIT DIRECTLY[/quote]
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Re: LAST TIME A DIRECT HIT WAS 1921-THAT MIGHT MEAN 65 NM

#12 Postby feederband » Mon May 16, 2005 9:39 am

bucman1 wrote:I AGREE WITH YOUR POSTS,BUT THERE IS A MAJOR MISNOTION BY MANY THAT THE TAMPA/ST.PETE AREA IS PROTECTED JUST LIKE ,LETS SAY JACKSONVILLE, WHICH I BELEIEVE HAS NEVER BEEN HIT DIRECTLY
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I don't understand the word protected in this case ..What do they have a 60000 ft wall that can take a 200 mph wind gust...? :D
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#13 Postby StormChasr » Mon May 16, 2005 9:44 am

I AGREE WITH YOUR POSTS,BUT THERE IS A MAJOR MISNOTION BY MANY THAT THE TAMPA/ST.PETE AREA IS PROTECTED JUST LIKE ,LETS SAY JACKSONVILLE, WHICH I BELEIEVE HAS NEVER BEEN HIT DIRECTLY
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Well, I think Stuart and Fort Pierce might have something to say about that. They didn't expect two hits in one year.

Jacksonville is quite unusual for a direct hit. Hits around 30 degrees North, from the Atlantic are quite uncommon. That is different.
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Re: LAST TIME A DIRECT HIT WAS 1921-THAT MIGHT MEAN 65 NM

#14 Postby caneman » Mon May 16, 2005 10:34 am

bucman1 wrote:I AGREE WITH YOUR POSTS,BUT THERE IS A MAJOR MISNOTION BY MANY THAT THE TAMPA/ST.PETE AREA IS PROTECTED JUST LIKE ,LETS SAY JACKSONVILLE, WHICH I BELEIEVE HAS NEVER BEEN HIT DIRECTLY
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Lets see 2 high end Tropical Storms hit our area leaving many without power. Some roof damage, lots of trees down. I don't personally know many people who feel we are protected after last year. After 1.)Many Evacuated out of area for Charley( Many like myself right into the path of Charley. 2). Many lost power from Frances 3). Jeanne many lost power from her and many more had become Hurricane weary at this point after 36 hours of this slow mover and 4. Early on it looked like Ivan was headed this way. If last year wasn't a wake up call, then I feel sorry for those who somehow slept thru it.
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PROTECTED

#15 Postby bucman1 » Mon May 16, 2005 10:49 am

IN ALL DUE RESPECT YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT!
JEANNE AND FRANCES WERE EXITING STORMS NOT DIRECT HITS-
CHARLEY/IVAN DID NOT HIT TAMPA-THATS MY POINT!
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#16 Postby cyclonaut » Mon May 16, 2005 11:36 am

You asked a question,you are getting good feedback on it & you are yelling @ people???
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Protected

#17 Postby bucman1 » Mon May 16, 2005 11:39 am

Not yelling at any one just forgot to take my caos off-sorry
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Protected

#18 Postby bucman1 » Mon May 16, 2005 11:42 am

Thats I forgot to take my caps off-tough day so far.
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