The Recon Plane Safe in Biloxi??????????????????????

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The Recon Plane Safe in Biloxi??????????????????????

#1 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sun May 29, 2005 4:50 pm

is the plane in Biloxi going to be safe............. read this all.......................


The National Weather Service in New Orleans has issued a

* Tornado Warning for...
Harrison County in southern Mississippi
this includes the cities of... Long Beach... Gulfport... Biloxi

* until 445 PM CDT

* at 418 PM CDT... National Weather Service Doppler radar indicated a
severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado near Long
Beach... moving east northeast at 25 mph.

* The tornado is expected to be near...
Gulfport by 430 PM CDT
Biloxi by 445 PM CDT


Seek shelter on the lowest floor of the building in an interior
hallway or room such as a closet. Stay away from windows.

If in Mobile homes or vehicles... evacuate them and get inside a
substantial shelter. If no shelter is available... lie flat in the
nearest ditch or other low spot and cover your head with your hands.

A Severe Thunderstorm Watch remains in effect until 800 PM CDT Sunday
evening for southern Mississippi.
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#2 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun May 29, 2005 4:53 pm

If a Major hurricane where to move into that area. We would loss are recon planes.

:( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry:
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#3 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sun May 29, 2005 4:54 pm

talking about a tornado not a hurricane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#4 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun May 29, 2005 4:55 pm

Both ways we would loss billions of dollars of recon planes. We would not be able to replace them for this hurricane season. Lets hope they are ok.
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#5 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sun May 29, 2005 4:57 pm

true that true that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#6 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun May 29, 2005 5:02 pm

A serious quastion what do we do if a hurricane hits the Nhc? The whole hurricane bench of a forecasting would be gone. That would be a very bad if this hurricane where to pull a Andrew. But instead head to New orleans. People would not get warning. Tens of thousands would die.


I think we should move the nhc back up to Dc to make sure. Like that bench of forecasting use to be.
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#7 Postby Brent » Sun May 29, 2005 5:04 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:A serious quastion what do we do if a hurricane hits the Nhc? The whole hurricane bench of a forecasting would be gone. That would be a very bad if this hurricane where to pull a Andrew. But instead head to New orleans. People would not get warning. Tens of thousands would die.


Andrew's eye passed just south of the NHC in 1992 and they never missed an advisory. Weren't late either. They had wind gusts over 160 mph too(can someone confirm, it's been a long time). That was before it was blown off the roof.

If they survived Andrew, they'll survive another hurricane. They've got technology we couldn't even dream of.

I believe they have a plan to move the planes from Biloxi if a hurricane threatens... in fact, I believe they did it with Ivan.
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#8 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sun May 29, 2005 5:05 pm

your right brent miami/nhc did get a 160mph wind gust before the wind gauge blew off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#9 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Sun May 29, 2005 5:20 pm

Actually it is important to note that in 1992, the National Hurricane Center was located in Coral Gables.

I believe it moved to its current location on the FIU campus in Miami in 1995.
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#10 Postby Aslkahuna » Sun May 29, 2005 5:26 pm

First off, ALL Bases in areas susceptible to hits by Tropical Cyclones have an evacuation plan for aircraft (or ships as the case may be). They have a Condiiton of Readiness based upon how far out a storm is and when they go to Condition I they leave. I saw enough of those at Clark AB in the Philippines. Secondly, All of the Prediction Centers have backup plans in case they are not able to function. In the case of NHC they send a crew of specialists up to NCEP to run the shop from there if NHC is down.

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#11 Postby SouthernWx » Sun May 29, 2005 5:26 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:A serious quastion what do we do if a hurricane hits the Nhc? The whole hurricane bench of a forecasting would be gone. That would be a very bad if this hurricane where to pull a Andrew. But instead head to New orleans. People would not get warning. Tens of thousands would die.


I think we should move the nhc back up to Dc to make sure. Like that bench of forecasting use to be.



1) The National Hurricane Center is now located inside a hurricane-resistant building, constructed to survive a category 5 hurricane. The NHC facility is also located farther inland than the old office inside the Gables One Tower. I haven't visited NHC since they moved to the new facilities, but friends who have describe it as "a fortress".

2) In the event something unexpected happened at NHC, there are always backup NOAA facilities staffed by expert forecasters to issue watches, warnings, and advisories. After hurricane Andrew caused damage to NHC in 1992 (took out the radar, wx instruments, communications equipment/ antennas), I well remember seeing Jerry Jarrell at NOAA headquarters outside Washington, D.C. (on the NBC Evening news).

There are always backup plans in place at NHC (just as at SPC) just in case....always.

PW
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#12 Postby Cookiely » Sun May 29, 2005 5:40 pm

SouthernWx wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:A serious quastion what do we do if a hurricane hits the Nhc? The whole hurricane bench of a forecasting would be gone. That would be a very bad if this hurricane where to pull a Andrew. But instead head to New orleans. People would not get warning. Tens of thousands would die.


I think we should move the nhc back up to Dc to make sure. Like that bench of forecasting use to be.

I saw the NHC building on TV last night and it is indeed a fortress. It looks like it could survive anything mother nature could throw at it.


1) The National Hurricane Center is now located inside a hurricane-resistant building, constructed to survive a category 5 hurricane. The NHC facility is also located farther inland than the old office inside the Gables One Tower. I haven't visited NHC since they moved to the new facilities, but friends who have describe it as "a fortress".

2) In the event something unexpected happened at NHC, there are always backup NOAA facilities staffed by expert forecasters to issue watches, warnings, and advisories. After hurricane Andrew caused damage to NHC in 1992 (took out the radar, wx instruments, communications equipment/ antennas), I well remember seeing Jerry Jarrell at NOAA headquarters outside Washington, D.C. (on the NBC Evening news).

There are always backup plans in place at NHC (just as at SPC) just in case....always.

PW
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#13 Postby HurryKane » Sun May 29, 2005 5:41 pm

From what I can tell, that particular cell moved south of the coastline before it got to Biloxi.
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#14 Postby MGC » Sun May 29, 2005 5:48 pm

In the event a hurricane is forecast to pass near Keesler AFB where the Hurricane Hunters are based, they would move all airworthy aircraft away to another base. Any of the C-130's that could not fly would be secured in hangers. Despite a tornado warning no reports of a tornado have been observed ATT.....MGC
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#15 Postby Radar » Sun May 29, 2005 5:50 pm

It was a very severe thunderstorm cell with dangerous lightening though, My daughter and I were in a Wal-Mart in Gulfport during the height of the storm when lightening struck the building and sparks actually came out of the ceiling (I'm not kidding)... You should have seen all of the Wal-Mart shoppers scurry like rats ( I refer to them as "Wallies" :lol: and yes I guess I'm one of them)... It was a pretty intense storm with alot of much needed rain for such a parched area and it is still coming down without as much fanfare now though. :wink:
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#16 Postby HurryKane » Sun May 29, 2005 5:56 pm

Radar wrote:It was a very severe thunderstorm cell with dangerous lightening though, My daughter and I were in a Wal-Mart in Gulfport during the height of the storm when lightening struck the building and sparks actually came out of the ceiling (I'm not kidding)... You should have seen all of the Wal-Mart shoppers scurry like rats ( I refer to them as "Wallies" :lol: and yes I guess I'm one of them)... It was a pretty intense storm with alot of much needed rain for such a parched area and it is still coming down without as much fanfare now though. :wink:


I don't doubt the scurrying, that cell (along with a tornado warning) came through my neighborhood earlier--apparently lightning from it struck a house near fellow S2K poster dhweather's home and the other house burned to the ground. :(
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#17 Postby Radar » Sun May 29, 2005 6:02 pm

What a terrible tragedy Hurry so sorry to hear about the tornado in your neck of the Coast. I'm like everyone on this board I find weather so utterly captivating and fascinating but yet I hate it's negative effects. Please let dhweather know my thoughts are with his neighbor during this devastating time!
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#18 Postby dhweather » Sun May 29, 2005 6:04 pm

HurryKane is right, see this:

http://www.diamondheadweather.com/fire1.jpg
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#19 Postby cycloneye » Sun May 29, 2005 6:07 pm

dhweather wrote:HurryKane is right, see this:

<img src="http://www.diamondheadweather.com/fire1.jpg">


Oh boy what a tragedy there.diweather that is your house at the left of the one burning?
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#20 Postby dhweather » Sun May 29, 2005 6:09 pm

Luis - it's about 150 yards from my house.

Fortunately, nobody was home, nor any pets, so the losses will
not include any life.



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