Andrew advisories---Where can I find them??

[Anonymous]

I was just wonderring if the original advisories that were issued for hurricane andrew are available anywhere? Would be interresting to read how the storm nearly died out but then came back as a monster and what the NHC said at the time. However, the NHC archives dont go back that far. Anyone know a source where they are available?

Looking it up via search, I can only find this official statement...

MIACFWPBI
TTAAPP KPBI 231514
FLZP85-099-111-502-231545-

COASTAL FLOOD STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WEST PALM BEACH FL
1115 AM EDT SUN AUG 23 1992

...THE COASTAL FLOOD WARNING FOR THE FLORIDA COUNTIES OF ST. LUCIE...MARTIN.. AND PALM BEACH HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO A HURRICANE WARNING...

STRONG HURRICANE ANDREW IS EXPECTED TO REACH THE COAST OF FLORIDA EARLY MONDAY MORNING. THE SURGE OF THE OCEAN ASSOCIATED WITH THE HURRICANE MAY DRIVE WATER LEVELS 6 TO 8 FEET ABOVE THE PREDICTED TIDES BEGINNING AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT.

FURTHER COASTAL FLOOD INFORMATION WILL BE INCLUDED IN HURRICANE ANDREW ADVISORIES AND STATEMENTS

[Brent]

Go to the NHC archives and click "Atlantic 1958-1994". It's on an FTP server. 1992 and it should be in there.

[LSU2001]

Try this link,
It has the discussions for Andrew,
Tim
ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/pub/storm_archiv ... /tropdisc/

[Brent]

I still cannot get into that link.

I had all the advisories/discussions on my computer until it crashed in October of last year. Here's one advisory I posted on another board for the anniversary in August.

HURRICANE ANDREW ADVISORY NUMBER 28
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT SUN AUG 23 1992

...DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE HEADING FOR SOUTH FLORIDA...

HURRICANE WARNINGS REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR THE CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST
BAHAMAS.

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA
FROM VERO BEACH SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE FLORIDA KEYS TO THE DRY
TORTUGAS... AND A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND HURRICANE WATCH IS IN
EFFECT NORTH OF VERO BEACH TO TITUSVILLE FLORIDA. ALSO... A
HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM
SOUTH OF BAYPORT... WHICH INCLUDES THE GREATER TAMPA AREA...TO NORTH
OF FLAMINGO.

ALL PRECAUTIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY...INCLUDING EVACUATIONS
ORDERED BY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS...SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION.

AT 11 AM EDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF ANDREW WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 25.4 NORTH...LONGITUDE 75.0 WEST OR ABOUT 330 MILES
...530 KM...EAST OF MIAMI FLORIDA.

ANDREW IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 16 MPH...26 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS. HURRICANE
CONDITIONS WILL SPREAD OVER THE NORTHWEST AND CENTRAL BAHAMAS TODAY
...AND ON THE PRESENT COURSE SHOULD REACH THE SOUTHEAST COAST OF
FLORIDA IN THE PREDAWN HOURS ON MONDAY.

THIS IS A DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE WITH MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS NEAR 135 MPH...215 KM/HR. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE
LIKELY BEFORE LANDFALL. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO
30 MILES... 45 KM...FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS
EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85 MILES...140 KM.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY THE AIRCRAFT WAS 930
MB...27.46 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 10 TO 14 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDES ARE
POSSIBLE FOR SOME LOCATIONS IN THE NW BAHAMAS...WITH UP TO 18 FEET
POSSIBLE FOR THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF ELEUTHERA ISLAND. STORM SURGES
OF 7 TO 10 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDES ARE POSSIBLE FOR THE FLORIDA
COAST AND KEYS NEAR TO WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL IN SOUTH
FLORIDA...WITH POSSIBLE HEIGHTS OF 9 TO 13 FEET IN BISCAYNE BAY.

REPEATING THE 11 AM EDT POSITION...25.4 N... 75.0 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD
...WEST NEAR 16 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...135 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 930 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 2 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY
ISSUANCE AT 5 PM EDT.

[LSU2001]

Brent,
try this one. If you still can t get in PM me and I will copy all of the advisiories into a word file and e-mail them to you.
Tim

ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/pub/storm_archiv ... ew/public/

[Brent]

Brent,
try this one. If you still can t get in PM me and I will copy all of the advisiories into a word file and e-mail them to you.
Tim

ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/pub/storm_archiv ... ew/public/

I've tried... and tried. My browser locks up and stops responding everytime. I've changed settings as well.

PM is coming your way... thanks for the offer.

[jlauderdal]

Brent,
try this one. If you still can t get in PM me and I will copy all of the advisiories into a word file and e-mail them to you.
Tim

ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/pub/storm_archiv ... ew/public/

they totally blew that track about 72 hours out..ouch

[Josephine96]

I'm guessing since the hurricane watch went as far north as the space coast.. they still thought Andrew could come this far north.. I even remember.. being 9 years old and all I heard about from teachers in my elementary school was "Please stay south Andrew"..

Back then of course.. I was a little greedy didn't wanna go to school booger who wanted to have a storm come LMAO

[dhweather]

You'll need some time-travel machine to go back and get the advisories - sorry!

[Derecho]

Only place I know of is the FTP link;

I understand many people have frustrating problems with Ftp, I did at times in the past.

Perhaps try a different browser than the one you've used.

I've seen all the advisories plotted out too;

What jumps out at you is that

1) In every single forecast NHC forecast Andrew to intensify

2) Every single forecast track was basically towards the US; there were NO "recurve out to sea" forecast tracks.

Really destroys some persistent myths.

[Brent]

They were also a little slow with the track... The Hurricane Warning wasn't issued until 8am Sunday. The eye came ashore just before 5am Monday. The Hurricane Warning for the Florida West Coast wasn't issued until 2pm and it re-emerged by 10am.

[Josephine96]

I got the advisories just fine from that link above..

[Brent]

I got the advisories just fine from that link above..

Yeah... it depends on the browser. About a year back, I got them just fine on this same computer(same browser too) and now the IE window locks up every single time.

[tallywx]

Solution: the free Firefox browser, the best browser in the universe.

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

It also avoids all those security issues that IE has. Nice value-added features like built-in popup blocking, google search toolbar, and browse window tabbing, among others.

[Derek Ortt]

The forecasts, by today's standards, were not good at all. However, we must understand that track forecasting back then was not as good as it is today.

The main problem was forward speed, not so much heading, which remains a problem as I can attest to.

The Hurricane Warning was issued far too late though. Only about 15 hours before the onset of TS winds and about 18-20 before hurricane winds. Not enough for when more than a million people need to evac and not for a cat 5.

It is also amazing to see the initial intensities back then using the 80% rule, not today's 90% rule. Can only imagine the panic that would have set in if a 175 m.p.h. monster was bearing down on MIA, not a 150 m.p.h. one

[Brent]

The forecasts, by today's standards, were not good at all. However, we must understand that track forecasting back then was not as good as it is today.

The main problem was forward speed, not so much heading, which remains a problem as I can attest to.

The Hurricane Warning was issued far too late though. Only about 15 hours before the onset of TS winds and about 18-20 before hurricane winds. Not enough for when more than a million people need to evac and not for a cat 5.

It is also amazing to see the initial intensities back then using the 80% rule, not today's 90% rule. Can only imagine the panic that would have set in if a 175 m.p.h. monster was bearing down on MIA, not a 150 m.p.h. one

Were you in Miami when Andrew hit? Because your very close to where the eye hit now.

[Anonymous]

Strangely, I can see the advisories and discussions but cant find the forecast maps from then. Maybe the NHC didnt archive their maps then.

[Scorpion]

Its really funny how they say that the eyewall is almost ashore with 115 knot winds. In reality it was more like 155 knots.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

If they where this wrong just think how wrong they could of been in the 1970s. Or even 1969 with Camille. In 1935 I don't think there was any way to forecast these storms.

[Derek Ortt]

didnt move to MIA until 2001