Friendly Reminder :p

[Rainband]

STORM2K is a place where everyone is Welcome. We are made up of Experts, amateurs and just plain ole Weather enthusiasts. Thats what makes Storm2k what it is. That being said, there are going to be those members that think every little blob is going to develop and then there are going to be those members that say nothing is going to develop. Instead of posting sarcasm and borderline rude comments...explain why you think the area won't develop or for that matter why you think it will and state the reasons why. Many people are here to "learn" and if we make the board a comfortable learning environment, where people aren't afraid to ask questions, we will all be the better for it. There are a lot of knowledgeable individuals here and a lot of knowledge hungry weather enthusiasts as well. If we work together we will all benefit this season.

The learning process never stops and the only stupid question is one thats never asked. We all started somewhere and I don't don't care who you are the process of learning is a non stop process. That being said Enjoy the Season, Enjoy S2K and Stay safe. Thanks for help Making S2K..."The Legal Addiction"

Johnathan

[HurricaneQueen]

Thanks, Johnathan:

After reading some of the statements made today, that needed to be said. This is such a great group of people and many of us have formed strong bonds over the years. That doesn't mean that there is no room for new members. The same can be said for the level of knowledge.

We are blessed to have some of the greatest weather minds around as contributing members but we embrace weather neophytes as well. All should be made welcome and not be afraid to posts for fear of ridicule.

Granted there will be some people who will slip in to stir up trouble but they will be quickly weeded out by our great Mods.

I hope 2005 can be our best year ever. It can and will be be if every one applies the rules of common courtesy and remembers that character is not measured by the level of ones knowledge.

Again thanks,
Lynn

[vbhoutex]

GREAT POSTS JONATHAN AND LYNN!!!

THANKS!!!!

[cycloneye]

Excellent posts Johnnathan and Lynn.Hopefully when things get hot in the Atlantic things go smoothly in the forum.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

I will always post why I think something will develop or not.

[Air Force Met]

I think they way most conflicts are avoided here is when people back up their opinions with data and facts. The problems arise when people give a forecast based on gut feelings (and are dogmatic about it) and do not support it with any data.

[patsmsg]

STORM2K is a place where everyone is Welcome. We are made up of Experts, amateurs and just plain ole Weather enthusiasts. Thats what makes Storm2k what it is...
Johnathan

Excellent post...exactly why this place is the best!

[Rainband]

Thanks everybodyfor the cooperation. Good points

[msbee]

I think they way most conflicts are avoided here is when people back up their opinions with data and facts. The problems arise when people give a forecast based on gut feelings (and are dogmatic about it) and do not support it with any data.

this is the point exactly I think.
I know it is an open forum and I know there are pros and amateurs here.
I am definitely an amateur and would never think of attempting any forecasting.
I do leave that to the experts.
However, I have to say, and I hope no one takes offense here, that I do get a little irritated sometimes by some of my fellow amateurs who post on every little cluster of clouds as if it might turn into something big.
they try to offer facts that aren't really facts,and it can be annoying.
It's hard for me then to find which posts to read ( there are so many this time of year)
and I really want to spend my time reading reliable information.
since it is an open fourm, I do not know how you control that though.
I do know that the bottom line is that we all will be irritated by other posts from time to time. In that case I think that honest criticism is okay but we all need to be nice to each other and stay civil.

[Rainband]

I think they way most conflicts are avoided here is when people back up their opinions with data and facts. The problems arise when people give a forecast based on gut feelings (and are dogmatic about it) and do not support it with any data.

this is the point exactly I think.
I know it is an open forum and I know there are pros and amateurs here.
I am definitely an amateur and would never think of attempting any forecasting.
I do leave that to the experts.
However, I have to say, and I hope no one takes offense here, that I do get a little irritated sometimes by some of my fellow amateurs who post on every little cluster of clouds as if it might turn into something big.
they try to offer facts that aren't really facts,and it can be annoying.
It's hard for me then to find which posts to read ( there are so many this time of year)
and I really want to spend my time reading reliable information.
since it is an open fourm, I do not know how you control that though.
I do know that the bottom line is that we all will be irritated by other posts from time to time. In that case I think that honest criticism is okay but we all need to be nice to each other and stay civil.

I agree. The key is to be civil. In a serious situation I suggest listening to your local authorities and the experts in the Analysis forum. As staff we do our best to remove misleading posts and the "disclaimer" if someone does a forecast will also let you know it's not official. We have some really good amateurs here and some Pro's too. Thats what makes S2K "The Legal Addiction"

[southerngale]

msbee...
There will be people who analyze every little cluster of clouds. If nothing else, I'm sure it gives them practice, and it's just fun to analyze for many people. If you see it mentioned in the Tropical Analysis forum though, then you'll know that the mets or more experienced amateurs are interested in the "cluster of clouds" as well.

Btw, good post Johnathan!

[Rainband]

Thanks Kelly , you too

[dhweather]

I think they way most conflicts are avoided here is when people back up their opinions with data and facts. The problems arise when people give a forecast based on gut feelings (and are dogmatic about it) and do not support it with any data.

Well said AFM - I'm all for folks posting areas of interest and WHY they
think what will or will not happen. I just don't like the hand grenades
some toss out there with no supporting documentation or reasoning.

[senorpepr]

I think they way most conflicts are avoided here is when people back up their opinions with data and facts. The problems arise when people give a forecast based on gut feelings (and are dogmatic about it) and do not support it with any data.

this is the point exactly I think.
I know it is an open forum and I know there are pros and amateurs here.
I am definitely an amateur and would never think of attempting any forecasting.
I do leave that to the experts.
However, I have to say, and I hope no one takes offense here, that I do get a little irritated sometimes by some of my fellow amateurs who post on every little cluster of clouds as if it might turn into something big.
they try to offer facts that aren't really facts,and it can be annoying.
It's hard for me then to find which posts to read ( there are so many this time of year)
and I really want to spend my time reading reliable information.
since it is an open fourm, I do not know how you control that though.
I do know that the bottom line is that we all will be irritated by other posts from time to time. In that case I think that honest criticism is okay but we all need to be nice to each other and stay civil.

To piggy-back on this subject, I think another "boiling point" is where an amateur will go head-over-heels over a cluster of convection -- every single time one pops up. However, when the seasoned meteorologists offer ideas and reasons why said convection won't develop, the amateur will discount that information and continue on their paramount season parade.

Case in point, last season there were (if I'm not mistaken) 12 different waves that were dubbed "Alex" well before Alex even formed. The mets would offer reasons why those particular waves wouldn't develop, but it was like nothing was even said. The hooting and hollering for Alex continued without a sensible reason.

Regardless, I believe there is a line where comments go too far...on both sides of the fence. The key to success is civilized conversations and openness to new ideas.

-Mike