2 New Bouys in Tropical Atlantic,41040,41041

#1 Postby **cycloneye** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:32 pm

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/Maps/Caribbean.shtml

These 2 new bouys will provide plenty of data as the CV systems get closer to them and the location of them is perfect in terms of latitud and longitud.Now with these new bouys there are four east of the Lesser Antilles and some around Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #2 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:34 pm

That is great news more information faster. The nhc will have more data for the upgrade. I wish one where put out near the cape verdes.

#3 Postby **cycloneye** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:52 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:That is great news more information faster. The nhc will have more data for the upgrade. I wish one where put out near the cape verdes.

Maybe in the future they will grant your wish.

HUC · #4 Postby **HUC** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:03 pm

Good news,mainly for those of us,living in the islands,because of the continuing data these buoys are giving.
Overcast today in GPE,with the TWave passing by,with moderate showers(around 20 to 50mm either in GPE or Martinica).
So long to all of you.

Aquawind · #5 Postby **Aquawind** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:14 pm

Excellent.. Always could use more surface observations with more factual data...

Paul

#6 Postby **Air Force Met** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:24 pm

Aquawind wrote:Excellent.. Always could use more surface observations with more factual data...

Paul

Data is our friend. I know they are expensive (even though they cost a lot more than they really need to), but they are really important. The more data...the better the model resolution.

#7 Postby **cycloneye** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:28 pm

HUC wrote:Good news,mainly for those of us,living in the islands,because of the continuing data these buoys are giving.
Overcast today in GPE,with the TWave passing by,with moderate showers(around 20 to 50mm either in GPE or Martinica).
So long to all of you.

Yes those bouys will be of big help to NHC to look at the data from them and make their forecasts about any system that is east of the Lesser Antilles.So now there are four bouys 2 that the French has and now 2 by the US goverment.And those new bouys are in the perfect location in latitud 14n and at 53w and 46w the route that many of the Cape Verde systems take.

#8 Postby **msbee** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:33 pm

excellent!
long overdue!

Rainband · #9 Postby **Rainband** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:48 pm

msbee wrote:excellent!
long overdue!

I agree. Thanks for the update Luis

#10 Postby **feederband** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:29 pm

If these rains don't let up down here they will be able to put some bouys in the middle of Florida :lol:

I'd say for about a week now every 4-5 hours, day and night we get another good soaking... :roll:

Scott_inVA · #11 Postby **Scott_inVA** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:42 pm

Pretty quiet out there when I ran this, but here's where they are located:
http://www.midatlanticwx.com/cyclone/model1_OS.png

Scott
Mid-Atlantic WX.com
Lexington, Virginia
http://www.midatlanticwx.com/modelmap.htm

#12 Postby **gatorcane** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:14 pm

That is great news more information faster. The nhc will have more data for the upgrade. I wish one where put out near the cape verdes.

There is absolutely no need for a buoy by the Cape Verde islands. Even if a storm develops out there it is thousands of miles from the nearest land mass. The new buoys can be used to get information as these storms get closer.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #13 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:20 pm

Thats where your wrong. Many a system come off the cape verdes a years...In a hand full of them might even be weak tropical storms or strong tropical depressions. It would give us the data to see it...

#14 Postby **gatorcane** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:51 pm

maybe there are ownership issues out there....what country owns the waters by the Cape Verde Islands?

#15 Postby **MGC** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:27 pm

International waters, no one owns the waters. There is no need to place buoys in that region of the Atlantic. Ship reports will suffice......MGC

cyclonaut · #16 Postby **cyclonaut** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:37 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:Thats where your wrong. Many a system come off the cape verdes a years...In a hand full of them might even be weak tropical storms or strong tropical depressions. It would give us the data to see it...

Thats ok we'll live! There will be 2000 miles of ocean in front of it & the latest & greatest technology that money can buy will be watching from above.

#17 Postby **gatorcane** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:49 pm

Yes MGC and Cyclonaut I agree, there is no need for buoys out there not not mention how much they would cost to put them out there...usually the storms out by the Cape Verde islands are depressions or tropical storms that don't strengthen until moving west several hundred miles anyway.

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #18 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 1:46 am

We get a image out of the Eastern Atlantic every 6 hours. It takes at least 3 images to make a short loop. 18 to 24 hours. Systems that form over the Eastern Atlatnic have been developing for over a day or two before they even be seen as a system. Buoys would increase are data in show in give us timely updates. Just think for a second with the same stadard in the Gulf of Mexico or western Atlatnic. It would not be a good Picture.

#19 Postby **dhweather** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:48 am

In a world of tight budgets and limited resources, plus no significant need
for one in the region, we would be foolishly spending money to place
a buoy in or near the Cape Verde region.

Storms that far away get what they merit - satellite images. There is
no short term threat to life that far out.

AussieMark · #20 Postby **AussieMark** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:00 am

what about to the actual Cape Verde Islands population :?:

---Mark---

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