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Fla NWS Discussions begin to Note caribbean disturbance....

#1 Postby Anonymous » Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:00 am

NWS Tampa...
THINGS START TO GET A LITTLE MORE INTERESTING BY THE END OF NEXT
WEEKEND. ALL MODELS HAVE BEEN INDICATING SOME KIND OF DISTURBED
WEATHER DEVELOPING NEAR THE EXTREME SOUTHERN GULF/NORTHWEST
CARIBBEAN. UNLIKE ARLENE'S PRECURSOR...THIS LOOKS TO BE MORE
SYNOPTIC IN NATURE AS FAIRLY DEEP 500 MB TROUGH EDGES SOUTHWEST
ACROSS THE CENTRAL GULF WITH AN EVENTUAL INCREASE IN S TO SW FLOW
OFF THE SURFACE. IN ANY CASE...WE'LL HAVE TO MONITOR FOR MORE
INCLEMENT WEATHER IN ABOUT A WEEK. FOR NOW...HAVE RAMPED UP PCPN
AND CLOUDS JUST A BIT AND TAKEN DOWN DAYTIME TEMPS A COUPLE DEGREES
BELOW NORMAL.


NWS Key West
.LONG TERM (WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY)...
FORECAST UNCERTAINTY REMAINS HIGH FROM WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH
THURSDAY NIGHT. THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT FORECAST
DEPENDS HEAVILY UPON THE EVOLUTION AND MOVEMENT OF POSSIBLE LOWER
PRESSURE IN THE NORTHERN CARIBBEAN. THE LATEST GFS NUMERICAL MODEL
INDICATES THAT WEAK LOW PRESSURE OVER THE NORTHERN CARIBBEAN WILL
MOVE TO THE NORTHEAST OVER THE BAHAMAS WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY.
THIS WOULD KEEP THE KEYS OUT OF THE BEST REGION OF LARGE SCALE LIFT.
HIGH PRESSURE SHOULD BUILD ACROSS THE FLORIDA STRAITS FRIDAY THROUGH
SUNDAY. WITH A HIGH DEGREE OF FORECAST UNCERTAINTY...IT SEEMS BEST
TO GO WITH AN EXTENDED FORECAST BASED UPON CLIMATOLOGY...WHICH IS
WHAT IS CURRENTLY ADVERTISED ANYHOW.
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#2 Postby dixiebreeze » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:13 am

I think we're in for a long Caribbean watch this week.
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#3 Postby BonesXL » Mon Jun 13, 2005 9:16 am

Wow, I think the the Key West NWS report is pretty interesting.
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#4 Postby Anonymous » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:05 pm

Afternoon Fla Discussions....

http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/fl/discussion.html

NWS Melbourne...

SAT-MON...LONG RANGE GUIDANCE INDICATES PERSISTENCE OF THE LONG
WAVE TROUGH ALONG THE EAST COAST AND EXTENDING INTO THE EASTERN
GULF. MODELS ALSO SUGGEST THAT DEEP TROPICAL AIRMASS OVER THE
CARIBBEAN WILL EVENTUALLY WORK NORTHWARD TOWARD THE REGION...WITH
SOME SUGGESTION THAT A DISTINCT TROPICAL LOW COULD TAKE SHAPE
FROM WITHIN THE GENERAL LARGE AREA OF LOW PRESSURE/GYRE THAT HAS
BEEN PRESENT ACROSS THE SOUTHERN CARIBBEAN FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.

&&

.MARINE...GENERAL LIGHT ONSHORE FLOW THROUGH LATE WEDNESDAY WILL
BE ENHANCED NEXT FEW AFTERNOONS BY SEA BREEZE CIRCULATION. FLOW
WILL BEGIN TO VEER TO SW WEDNESDAY NIGHT WELL IN ADVANCE OF
SYNOPTIC BOUNDARY AND WILL BRIEFLY FRESHEN TO NEAR 15 KT OFFSHORE
BEFORE BECOMING LIGHT AGAIN THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND CONTINUING INTO
THE WEEKEND AS BOUNDARY DISSIPATES TO THE NORTH AND PRESSSURE
GRADIENT BECOMES MINIMAL. GIVEN CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINTIES
CONCERNING EVOLUTION OF TROPICAL MOISTURE FEED AND POSSIBLE LOW
CENTER...WILL INDICATE ENHANCED CLOUD COVER AND SCATTERED DIURNAL
POPS...INCREASING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH SUNDAY/MONDAY.
TEMPS NEAR CLIMO.


NWS Key West...

FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT...FORECAST CONFIDENCE
REMAINING QUITE LOW HERE. MODELS INDICATE THAT THE FLORIDA SURFACE
RIDGE WILL BE RIGHT OVERHEAD BEGINNING WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. GFS
MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOW THAT NORTHEAST BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS WILL BE
FAVORABLE FOR A CLOUD LINE ON WEDNESDAY...WITH WINDS BECOMING LIGHT
AND VARIABLE DURING THURSDAY. GFS CONTINUES TO PULL THE LOW
NORTHEAST THROUGH THE SE BAHAMAS...BUT ON THURSDAY...THE LATEST 12Z
NAM IS NOW PULLING THE BROAD LOW FROM THE WEST CARIBBEAN RIGHT TO
OVER THE FLORIDA STRAITS...WHICH CERTAINLY WOULD LEAD TO A BREEZIER
AND WETTER SCENARIO ON THURSDAY.


NWS Tallahassee...

.LONG TERM...THU THROUGH MON.
THE FRONT IS PROGGED TO STALL JUST AFTER LOCAL FROPA, AND WILL
REMAIN IN THE VICINITY THROUGH THE WEEKEND, BEFORE FINALLY PUSHING
INTO THE CENTRAL GULF AND PENINSULA ON MON. SINCE WE WILL BE ON THE
N SIDE OF THE FRONT, POPS WILL BE BELOW CLIMATOLOGY, BUT THE
PROXIMITY OF THE BOUNDARY PRECLUDES REMOVING POPS ENTIRELY OVER OUR
SERN ZONES. N AND W OF THE SERN BIG BEND ZONES, WE WILL USE SILENT
10S FOR THU AND FRI. FOR SAT, A WAVE WILL FORM ON THE WRN END OF THE
FRONT, ALLOWING IT TO DRIFT NWD AGAIN, SO LOW CHANCE POPS WILL BE
USED. FOR SUN AND MON, LOW CHANCE POPS WERE INCLUDED, ALTHOUGH THE
JURY IS STILL OUT ON WHETHER THE UPPER LOW WILL RETROGRADE AS FAR SW
AS THE LAST COUPLE GFS RUNS HAVE INDICATED. THE 00Z VERSION OF THE
MODEL ACTUALLY SHOWS ANOTHER TROPICAL SYSTEM BEING PULLED NWD BY
THIS LOW ACROSS THE ERN GULF ON MON. LET'S HOPE THIS DOESN'T COME TO
PASS.
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#5 Postby Anonymous » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:11 pm

Forgot to mention NWS Tampa....

GFS IS AGAIN POINTING TO SOME POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF CYCLONIC
ACTIVITY OVER THE CENTRAL CARIBBEAN WATERS WHERE SURFACE
LOW PRESSURE WILL MIGRATE WESTWARD INTO AN AREA OF MORE FAVORABLE
CONDITIONS FOR STRENGTHENING. ETA/UK AND OTHER MODELS ARE NOT AS
AGGRESSIVE AT THIS TIME KEEPING THE SYSTEM INHIBITED BY HIGH
PRESSURE PUSHING TO ITS NORTH AND MODERATE TO STRONG UPPER LEVEL
WIND SHEAR. SINCE GFS WAS THE FIRST AND BEST MODEL IN DETECTING
AND DEVELOPING ARLENE...IT IS WISE TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON TONIGHTS
SOLUTION.
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#6 Postby MWatkins » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:25 pm

And from the Retired Miami NWS WCM

May was wet so no reason to fret.


Well...he didn't say that but you get the idea.

Thanks for posting these discussions...now I don't have to play "around the world" to read all of the updated AFD's from today.

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#7 Postby MWatkins » Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:26 pm

Or better yet...

May was wet so no concerns from Brett


Ok I'll stop it now.

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