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#21 Postby senorpepr » Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:55 pm

Jekyhe32210 wrote:According to hurricane alley, 91L formed on 5/15/05...

http://www.hurricanealley.net/Storms/91L.html

Yet there wasnt a statement issued on the 15th--but on the 24th....

SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 AM EDT 24 MAY 2005

A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED JUST SOUTHEAST OF JAMAICA IS
PRODUCING SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER PORTIONS OF THE
CENTRAL CARIBBEAN AND HISPANIOLA. WHILE TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION
IS NOT EXPECTED DUE TO UNFAVORABLE UPPER LEVEL WINDS...THIS SYSTEM
COULD PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS OVER HISPANIOLA DURING THE NEXT
DAY OR TWO...AS THE SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY TOWARD THE NORTHEAST.
FURTHER INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE OBTAINED FROM THE
ATLANTIC TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION...ISSUED UNDER WMO HEADER
AXNT20 KNHC AND AWIPS HEADER MIATWDAT.

FORECASTER KNABB/PASCH


Ahh.. that's right. Thanks for posting that. 91L was May 15th, 2005. 90L was a south Atlantic invest. That means Arlene should have been 92L and this wave as 93L... The graphic shown above was from May 15th. I was getting confused, and now that I look at it, the 91L I was mentioning before occurred in November 8th (ish), 2004.
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#22 Postby air360 » Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:56 pm

no matter how you look at it someone "screwed up" somewhere...haha...oh well...
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#23 Postby Brent » Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:56 pm

senorpepr wrote:
Jekyhe32210 wrote:According to hurricane alley, 91L formed on 5/15/05...

http://www.hurricanealley.net/Storms/91L.html

Yet there wasnt a statement issued on the 15th--but on the 24th....

SPECIAL TROPICAL DISTURBANCE STATEMENT
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 AM EDT 24 MAY 2005

A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED JUST SOUTHEAST OF JAMAICA IS
PRODUCING SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER PORTIONS OF THE
CENTRAL CARIBBEAN AND HISPANIOLA. WHILE TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION
IS NOT EXPECTED DUE TO UNFAVORABLE UPPER LEVEL WINDS...THIS SYSTEM
COULD PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS OVER HISPANIOLA DURING THE NEXT
DAY OR TWO...AS THE SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY TOWARD THE NORTHEAST.
FURTHER INFORMATION ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE OBTAINED FROM THE
ATLANTIC TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION...ISSUED UNDER WMO HEADER
AXNT20 KNHC AND AWIPS HEADER MIATWDAT.

FORECASTER KNABB/PASCH


Ahh.. that's right. Thanks for posting that. 91L was May 15th, 2005. 90L was a south Atlantic invest. That means Arlene should have been 92L and this wave as 93L...


I have a headache. :eek:

Can someone PLEASE post a model map for the system the NHC is watching(whatever the heck number it is)?
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#24 Postby senorpepr » Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:57 pm

Brent wrote:I have a headache. :eek:

Can someone PLEASE post a model map for the system the NHC is watching(whatever the heck number it is)?


Here... since I can't make a map and post it at this time... go to the NHC's website and print off a tracking map. Then hand plot the models. It takes about 5 to 10 minutes...
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#25 Postby air360 » Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:59 pm

senorpepr..what do you use to make your maps?
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#26 Postby senorpepr » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:00 pm

air360 wrote:senorpepr..what do you use to make your maps?


When I make my maps, I simply take an NHC map and load it into PowerPoint and crop it. Then I hand plot all of the points.
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#27 Postby air360 » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:01 pm

hmm...good idea :)
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#28 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:09 pm

senorpepr wrote:
air360 wrote:senorpepr..what do you use to make your maps?


When I make my maps, I simply take an NHC map and load it into PowerPoint and crop it. Then I hand plot all of the points.


And then, how do you post it?
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#29 Postby senorpepr » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:12 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
senorpepr wrote:
air360 wrote:senorpepr..what do you use to make your maps?


When I make my maps, I simply take an NHC map and load it into PowerPoint and crop it. Then I hand plot all of the points.


And then, how do you post it?


Well, you save the PowerPoint as a JPEG graphic. (It'll prompt another thing at you... you want to save the "current slide only.")

After you have the image saved, post it on a hosting site. Normally I use the same site as I do for the tropicalupdates.nhcwx.com, but you can use Geocities.com Remember, though, only so many hits are allowed on free hosting sites. Therefore, the image will only last so long here on S2K...
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#30 Postby senorpepr » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:14 pm

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#31 Postby LCfromFL » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:18 pm

senorpepr wrote:Image


FINALLY!! :D :D :D

To the folks at SFWMD: "JUST SAY NO!" Put down the Crack....and back away from the keyboard! :lol: :lol:
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#32 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:24 pm

I will be up watching closely...This area has a shot at it. But we have to watch that next impulse of shear coming from near 30 north/80 west. If it stays north then theres a chance.
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#33 Postby senorpepr » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:26 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:I will be up watching closely...This area has a shot at it. But we have to watch that next impulse of shear coming from near 30 north/80 west. If it stays north then theres a chance.


It has a chance at becoming a depression, but nothing more for a few days. Jamaica and Cuba will limit any development until 92L enters the Atlantic.
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#34 Postby Anonymous » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:33 pm

What are the chances as some discussions out of fla had said of the storm being drawn nortward into Fla before going to the atlantic?
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#35 Postby Brent » Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:45 pm

Jekyhe32210 wrote:What are the chances as some discussions out of fla had said of the storm being drawn nortward into Fla before going to the atlantic?


Very little. There's expected to be a big trough coming down by late week.
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#37 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:08 pm

TEST..............TEST............TEST.............TEST..........

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JUST TESTING MY POWERPOINT ABILITIES!
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#38 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:12 pm

Shear maps shows that the 20 knot line has moved back north...To just around Jamica..Instead of over the northern part of our system...But reinforments could be coming from that jet stream coming down from the back side.
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#39 Postby stormchazer » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:39 pm

The Tallahassee discussion includes intrigue....

FXUS62 KTAE 131829
AFDTAE

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TALLAHASSEE FL
229 PM EDT MON JUN 13 2005

.SYNOPSIS...AN AMPLIFIED PATTER CONTINUES ACROSS THE CONUS TODAY,
WITH A RIDGE OVER THE SERN U.S. AND A BIG UPPER LOW OVER THE CENTRAL
PLAINS. SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWS A LARGE AREA OF HIGH PRESSURE OVER
THE NW ATLANTIC RIDGING WWD ACROSS DIXIE. A COUPLE OF LOW PRESSURE
SYSTEMS ARE PRESENT OVER THE PLAINS. SATELLITE AND RADAR SHOW MAINLY
SEA BREEZE INDUCED CONVECTION SCATTERED ACROSS THE SERN 1/2 OF THE
FORECAST AREA (FA).

&&

.SHORT TERM...TONIGHT THROUGH WED NIGHT.
THE MODELS ARE IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS THAT
A PATTERN CHANGE IS IN THE OFFING. THE UPPER LOW OVER THE PLAINS
WILL MOVE NORTHEAST, EVENTUALLY PHASING OVER ONTARIO WITH ANOTHER
LOW DROPPING SEWD FROM HUDSON BAY. THE RESULTING LONG WAVE TROUGH
OVER THE ERN U.S. WILL HELP PUSH A FRONT DEEP INTO THE S ON WED.
THIS FRONT IS PROGGED TO MAKE IT TO THE GULF COAST BY THU MORNING.
POPS THROUGH TUE NIGHT REFLECT A BLEND OF THE MOS, WHICH ALSO FITS
OUR SEA BREEZE CLIMATOLOGY. ON WED, WE CHOSE TO GO A BIT ABOVE MOS
AND LEAVE THE INHERITED UNIFORM 40 POP, CONSIDERING THE PROXIMITY OF
THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. THE GFS IS MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN THE NAM WITH
THE LIFT AHEAD OF THE FRONT, SO IT IS A BIT SURPRISING THAT THE MAV
POP IS SO LOW FOR THAT DAY.

.LONG TERM...THU THROUGH MON.
THE FRONT IS PROGGED TO STALL JUST AFTER LOCAL FROPA, AND WILL
REMAIN IN THE VICINITY THROUGH THE WEEKEND, BEFORE FINALLY PUSHING
INTO THE CENTRAL GULF AND PENINSULA ON MON. SINCE WE WILL BE ON THE
N SIDE OF THE FRONT, POPS WILL BE BELOW CLIMATOLOGY, BUT THE
PROXIMITY OF THE BOUNDARY PRECLUDES REMOVING POPS ENTIRELY OVER OUR
SERN ZONES. N AND W OF THE SERN BIG BEND ZONES, WE WILL USE SILENT
10S FOR THU AND FRI. FOR SAT, A WAVE WILL FORM ON THE WRN END OF THE
FRONT, ALLOWING IT TO DRIFT NWD AGAIN, SO LOW CHANCE POPS WILL BE
USED. FOR SUN AND MON, LOW CHANCE POPS WERE INCLUDED, ALTHOUGH THE
JURY IS STILL OUT ON WHETHER THE UPPER LOW WILL RETROGRADE AS FAR SW
AS THE LAST COUPLE GFS RUNS HAVE INDICATED. THE 00Z VERSION OF THE
MODEL ACTUALLY SHOWS ANOTHER TROPICAL SYSTEM BEING PULLED NWD BY
THIS LOW ACROSS THE ERN GULF ON MON. LET'S HOPE THIS DOESN'T COME TO
PASS.

&&

.MARINE...WE GENERALLY FOLLOWED THE NAM SUITE FOR WINDS, FOLLOWED BY
THE 06Z DGEX. THIS MODEL BRINGS A SOMEWHAT TIGHTER GRADIENT AHEAD OF
AND BEHIND THE FRONT WED-FRI, WHICH SEEMS MORE REALISTIC THAN THE
LOOSE GRADIENT DEPICTED ON THE GFS. HOWEVER, WE DID KEEP THE WINDS
AOB 15 KT SUSTAINED. WINDS WILL REMAIN FAIRLY LIGHT AT UNDER 10 KT
OUTSIDE OF THE SEA BREEZE THROUGH TUE NIGHT.

&&

.AVIATION...MOSTLY VFR TO OCCASIONAL MVFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING...WITH IFR CONDITIONS POSSIBLE IN
SCATTERED CB. MOST OF THE CB WILL DISSIPATE THIS EVENING, BUT
SEVERAL OF THE TAF SITES ARE EXPECTED TO DROP TO MVFR OR IFR AS LOW
CEILINGS AND SOME PATCHY FOG DEVELOP...SIMILAR TO LAST NIGHT.

&&

.FIRE WEATHER...DRIER AIR WILL ARRIVE BEHIND THE FRONT FOR THU AND
FRI, BUT WE DO NOT SEE RED FLAG CRITERIA BEING MET AT THIS TIME.
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#40 Postby skysummit » Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:45 pm

stormchazer wrote:THE 00Z VERSION OF THE
MODEL ACTUALLY SHOWS ANOTHER TROPICAL SYSTEM BEING PULLED NWD BY
THIS LOW ACROSS THE ERN GULF ON MON. LET'S HOPE THIS DOESN'T COME TO
PASS.


Exactly which low are they referring to? Will there be another, or is it something out there right now? Excuse me...I didn't read the entire forecast discussion, just what you bolded. I guess I was lazy :roll:
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