If you've ever wondered (hurricane Camille advisory #17)

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If you've ever wondered (hurricane Camille advisory #17)

#1 Postby SouthernWx » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:27 pm

If you've ever wondered how hurricane advisories looked regarding hurricane Camille in 1969.....here's the direct text of hurricane Camille advisory #17, issued at 5 PM CDT, Sunday August 17, 1969.

****This is a HISTORICAL HURRICANE ADVISORY written over 35 years ago....NO ACTUAL HURRICANE IS OCCURRING anywhere in the Atlantic, Caribbean, or Gulf of Mexico*****

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ADVISORY NO. 17
5 PM CDT SUNDAY AUGUST 17, 1969

...CAMILLE...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS...CENTER NEARS THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER...BEARING DOWN ON THE MISSISSIPPI ALABAMA COAST...

...HURRICANE WARNINGS ARE IN EFFECT FROM NEW ORLEANS AND GRAND ISLE LOUISIANA EASTWARD ACROSS THE MISSISSIPPI...ALABAMA...AND NORTHWEST FLORIDA COAST TO APALACHICOLA. GALE WARNINGS ARE IN EFFECT FROM MORGAN CITY TO GRAND ISLE. PREPARATIONS AGAINST THIS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE SHOULD BE COMPLETED BEFORE DARK...

...WINDS ARE INCREASING AND TIDES ARE RISING ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF COAST FROM GRAND ISLE EASTWARD. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ARE NOW OCCURRING AT THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. GALES IN SQUALLS ARE SPREADING INLAND OVER THE WARNING AREA AND WINDS WILL REACH HURRICANE FORCE OVER MUCH OF THE AREA FROM SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA ACROSS COASTAL MISSISSIPPI...ALABAMA...AND INTO EXTREME NORTHWEST FLORIDA LATER THIS AFTERNOON OR BY EARLY TONIGHT...

...THE FOLLOWING TIDES ARE EXPECTED TONIGHT AS CAMILLE MOVES INLAND...MISSISSIPPI COAST GULFPORT TO PASCAGOULA 15 TO 20 FEET...PASCAGOULA TO MOBILE 10 TO 15 FEET...EAST OF MOBILE TO PENSACOLA 6 TO 10 FEET. ELSEWHERE IN THE AREA OF HURRICANE WARNING EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER 5 TO 8 FEET. IMMEDIATE EVACUATION OF AREAS THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THESE TIDES IS ADVISED...

...THE CENTER OF CAMILLE IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INLAND ON THE MISSISSIPPI COAST NEAR GULFPORT EARLY TONIGHT...

...SEVERAL TORNADOES ARE LIKELY OVER EXTREME SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO FORT WALTON BEACH FLORIDA AND UP TO 100 MILES INLAND THROUGH TONIGHT. ANY FLOOD STATEMENTS NEEDED WILL BE ISSUED BY THE LOCAL WEATHER BUREAU OFFICES...

...ALL INTERESTS ALONG THE NORTHEASTERN GULF COAST ARE URGED TO LISTEN FOR LATER RELEASES AND CONTINUE ALL NECCESARY HURRICANE PRECAUTIONS...

...AT 5 PM CDT...2200Z...THE CENTER OF CAMILLE WAS NEAR LATITUDE 29.0 NORTH...LONGITUDE 88.9 WEST OR ABOUT 95 MILES SOUTHEAST OF NEW ORLEANS. CAMILLE IS MOVING NORTH NORTHWEST ABOUT 15 MPH...

...HIGHEST WINDS ARE ESTIMATED 190 MPH NEAR THE CENTER. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 60 MILES ND GALES EXTEND OUTWARD 180 MILES FROM THE CENTER. THE AIR FORCE RECON FLIGHT INTO CAMILLE THIS AFTERNOON REPORTED A CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 26.61"...OR 901 MILLIBARS...

..REPEATING THE 5 PM POSITION...29.0 NORTH...88.9 WEST...

...THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NEW ORLEANS WEATHER BUREAU AT 11 PM WITH BULLETINS AT 7 AND 9 PM CDT...

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#2 Postby Steve » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:35 pm

Man, how would you like to be reading that that knowing Camile was bearing down on you? Talk about massive panic. 180mph winds, eh? Boom. Lights out.

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#3 Postby Frank P » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:36 pm

Boy if reading that doesn't send chills down your spine nothing will .... Can you imagine if this scenario were playing out and actually affecting the US mainland present day... it would be mass hysteria at an unprecedented level
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#4 Postby Steve » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:41 pm

Indeed. Pressure of 26.61? LMAO. No one would be able to contain him/herself. It will happen again some day. In our short history of tropical monitoring, Camile probably isn't and wasn't a long-term anomaly. No doubt in otehr times, super storms were probably the rule.

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#5 Postby Brent » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:42 pm

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I'd be like "GET... AS... FAR... INLAND... NOW!!!"
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#6 Postby Brent » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:43 pm

Steve wrote:Indeed. Pressure of 26.61? LMAO. No one would be able to contain him/herself. It will happen again some day. In our short history of tropical monitoring, Camile probably isn't and wasn't a long-term anomaly. No doubt in otehr times, super storms were probably the rule.

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Gilbert got down to 888 mb... somewhere around 26.20" :crazyeyes:
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#7 Postby SouthernWx » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:54 pm

Here's the 1 a.m. bulletin from New Orleans....a couple hours after Camille made landfall. Of particular attention are the storm reports from Keesler air force base and Lakefront airport in New Orleans...


BULLETIN
1 AM CDT MONDAY AUGUST 18, 1969

...CAMILLE...BATTERING MISSISSIPPI COAST...HEADS INLAND...

...HURRICANE WARNINGS ARE IN EFFFECT FROM NEW ORLEANS AND GRAND ISLE LOUISIANA EASTWARD ACROSS THE MISSISSIPPI...ALABAMA...AND NORTHWEST FLORIDA COAST TO APALACHICOLA. GALE WARNINGS ARE IN EFFECT FROM MORGAN CITY TO GRAND ISLE. CONTINUE ALL PRECAUTIONS...

...HURRICANE WINDS ARE OCCURRING FROM EXTREME SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA EASTWARD ACROSS THE MISSISSIPPI COAST WITH A FEW SQUALLS TO HURRICANE SPEED LIKELY ACROSS COASTAL ALABAMA INTO EXTREME NORTHWEST FLORIDA...

...TIDES ARE RUNNING 10 TO 20 FEET ABOVE NORMAL ON THE MISSISSIPPI COAST AND 5 TO 10 FEET ELSEWHERE FROM SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA TO NORTHWEST FLORIDA...

...SEVERAL TORNADOES ARE LIKELY TONIGHT WITHIN 100 MILES OF THE COAST IN THE AREA FROM SOUTHEASTERN MISSISSIPPI EASTWARD TO FORT WALTON BEACH FLORIDA...

...HEAVY RAINS WITH LOCAL AMOUNTS OF 8 TO 10 INCHES WILL SPREAD INTO SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI...SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...AND THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE TONIGHT. FLOOD STATEMENTS WILL BE ISSUED BY THE LOCAL WEATHER BUREAU OFFICES AS NEEDED...

...AT 1 AM CDT...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE CAMILLE WAS LOCATED BY NEW ORLEANS AND OTHER LAND BASED RADARS NEAR LATITUDE 30.6.NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.5 WEST...OR 10 TO 15 MILES EAST OF PICAYUNE, MISSISSIPPI...

...HIGHEST WINDS ARE ESTIMATED AT 140 MPH NEAR THE CENTER ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI COAST. HURRICANE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD 60 MILES AND GALES EXTEND OUTWARD 180 MILES FROM THE CENTER...

...THOSE IN THE PATH OF THE EYE ARE REMINDED THAT THE WINDS WILL DIE DOWN RAPIDLY IF THE EYE PASSES OVER YOUR AREA BUT THE WINDS WILL INCREASE AGAIN RAPIDLY AND FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AS THE EYE MOVES AWAY. THE LULL WITH CAMILLE WIL PROBABLY LAST FROM A FEW MINUTES TO ONE HALF HOUR AND PERSONS SHOULD NOT VENTURE FAR FROM SAFE SHELTER...

...HURRICANE CAMILLE HAS BEGUN TO FILL AND WILL WEAKEN QUITE RAPIDLY AS IT CONTINUES GRADUALLY NORTHWARD THROUGH MISSISSIPPI AT ABOUT 15 MPH TONIGHT AND MONDAY. WINDS AND SEAS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH MONDAY AS CAMILLE MOVES AWAY FROM THE COAST...

...KEESLER AIR FORCE BASE AT BILOXI REPORTED 20 FEET TIDES AND 125 TO 150 MPH WINDS AT 1030 PM CDT. LAKEFRONT AIRPORT IN NEW ORLEANS REPORTED GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 100 MPH AT 11 PM CDT...

...REPEATING THE 1 AM POSITION...30.6 NORTH...89.5 WEST...

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NEW ORLEANS WEATHER BUREAU AT 5 AM WITH A BULLETIN AT 3 AM CDT...

HILL



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The 3 a.m. bulletin is the last one I have.....but at 3 a.m. Camille was located at latitude 31.2 north and longitude 89.8 west, or about 20 miles west-southwest of Hattiesburg. WBO New Orleans estimated sustained winds at that time still around 120 mph, which verified with a report from James Thornhill of Columbia, Mississippi...who reported 120 mph sustained winds and gusts reaching 135-140 mph around 2 a.m. As the eye passed overhead between 2 and 3 a.m CDT, the barometric pressure at Mr Thornhill's Columbia weather station bottomed out at 28.29" or 958 mb.

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#8 Postby cyclonaut » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:54 pm

I got chills reading that! :eek:
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#9 Postby dhweather » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:25 pm

Wow, thanks for sharing those Perry!!
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#10 Postby SunnyThoughts » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:31 pm

Thanks Southernwx for giving us a glimpse into the past. What those people must have went through that stayed to ride out Camille. Hopefully we won't have to see such a strong storm make landfall anywhere in the conus that would compare to her.
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#11 Postby feederband » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:32 pm

I think I would evac for that one....Probably not much to come back to. :eek:
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#12 Postby Brent » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:48 pm

feederband wrote:I think I would evac for that one....Probably not much to come back to. :eek:


I think I'd evacuate even if I wasn't in the surge threat area. Sheesh. Cat 3 winds 75 miles inland=Insane.
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#13 Postby Valkhorn » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:57 pm

I live in Hattiesburg right now.

And I almost left for Ivan. If anything was worse than Ivan headed right where Camille hit you better believe I'd be heading for Chattanooga.
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#14 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:59 pm

If we where reading a Advisorie like that later this hurricane season. I would not sleep for a week. :roll:
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#15 Postby AL Chili Pepper » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:00 pm

That almost seems surreal. Here's to hoping that nobody ever has to go through something like that again.

I'm about 25 miles from the coast, and if it was me I'd probably stay....reluctantly and with a million reservations.
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#16 Postby Brent » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:05 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:If we where reading a Advisorie like that later this hurricane season. I would not sleep for a week. :roll:


I wouldn't be able to sleep... I mean Camille's landfall point is only 300 miles southwest of here. Even if a monster like that were headed for South Texas or Mexico, it'd be a little too close for comfort.
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#17 Postby feederband » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:07 pm

I have mixed emotions about leaving because of getting looted in Frances. I live in a 2002 Manufactured Home. I stayed during Jeanne . It was the worst last year in my area....It was a experience had cat 1 to cat 2 winds for over 4 hours I was in the Northern eye wall house did very well less than $500.00 damage. I would leave if I was sure that it would be so bad that looting wouldn't matter....
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#18 Postby CFL » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:23 pm

My parents and older sisters were living in Pensacola during Camille and still remember it. (I wasn't around yet.) My mom was scared about possible tornadoes from feederbands. My oldest sister says she remembers weather alerts interrupting an episode of "Hee Haw", and my mom was making everyone get in the hallway.
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#19 Postby Swimdude » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:04 pm

Nope, nothing intimidating about an advisory stating 190 mph winds heading in your direction.

Wasn't there mass evacuation for Camille? If there wasn't... There should've been.
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#20 Postby Steve » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:52 pm

>>My parents and older sisters were living in Pensacola during Camille and still remember it. (I wasn't around yet.) My mom was scared about possible tornadoes from feederbands. My oldest sister says she remembers weather alerts interrupting an episode of "Hee Haw", and my mom was making everyone get in the hallway.

I can barely remember it. I was 5 at the time, though I could feel the excitement in the air. I was scared. My only real memory is my mom walking me to bed with a candle and telling me everything would be over by morning, so just sleep tight. Sleep I did. I woke up the next day and it was all over.

We used to go over to the coast every year and I'll never forget the sight of the Flamingo Motel. The only thing left was the swimming pool. They left that up with a chain link fence around it for many years. A lot of the old hotels sustained damage and I do recall that the Sun and Sand walkway across Beach Blvd. was blown over and had to be rebuilt. I knew a few people who lived a few blocks off the coast in Pass Christian and rode it out. The tales of mattresses, screaming wind and fear told the whole story. I remember being fascinated with storms after Camile and all of them (probably for the next 13 or 14 years) turned away. That was a long stretch of nothing through the 1970's.

My hurricane life began with Betsy in 1965. Story my dad tells is that we evacuated a few blocks away to St. Raphael's gymnasium. It was hot and sticky and my sister and I both threw up (airborne virus or just too much insanity for kids to take). They brought us home where we rode it out. Water backed up the next day and started getting into the houses. We were brought to the CD Shelter (presumably St. Raphael) via amphibious craft that drove/floated through the neighborhoods rescuing people. Like I told Huckster in a PM today, that was before all the massive levees were built and prior to insane coastal erosion that we suffer while everyone in Washington ignores it so they can play the partisan sniping game. Funny thing is, Betsy, despite her gusts well into the 100's, isn't even the benchmark storm for New Orleans. That's the 1947 storm moving up from the ESE heading WNW and passing just a bit south of the city. That scenario moves water into Lakes Borgne and Ponchartrain only to empty them into the city with northerly winds. In the past, that stuff would just tide out over time. Now, the only way to get it out is to pump it. One of these days this city is going to pay like the Coast did and that's probably going to be our swan song. :)

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