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New orleans hurricane of 1985?

#1 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:25 pm

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This was a weird one it moved northwest then to the east then sharply to the west. Made landfall right about where you need a hurrricane to do damage to New orleans. I don't understand this was 110 knot cat3 hurricane why did the new orleans flooding theory play out?


It went slightly to the northwest of what is needed.


I will post all major new orleans area hurricane here.
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#2 Postby HurricaneJoe22 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:29 pm

haha I guess New Orleans thought they were out of the woods when it turned east only to find out a few days later it decided to turn around and head right for them! Kinda like the Jeanne situation last year with Florida.
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#3 Postby Brent » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:35 pm

Main reason:

New Orleans was on the weak south and west side.
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#4 Postby vacanechaser » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:41 pm

Matt,

Look at the track and think about it a little. Remember a hurricane spins counter clockwise. So the winds for one were offshore and not coming from the Gulf into New Orleans. Plus like the last post said, they were on the weaker side of the system. Main reason is position and the wind flow. It could have really flooded the area had it moved in west of New Orleans, not east.


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#6 Postby rolltide » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:43 pm

I remember the storm very well. We had a canoe trip planned and thought we would have to cancel. When the storm changed course we went ahead with our all day trip. We did not have radios with us and had no idea the storm was coming back at us. When we were driving back to town there was bumper to bumper traffic headed out of town. We still had no idea what was going on. When we saw all the traffic we turned on the radio and found out the storm was due to come very close to Pensacola later that night. I am still thankful that we did not go on the overnight trip as we would have rode out the storm in the woods in Blackwater state park.
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#7 Postby Swimdude » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:46 pm

New Orleans wasn't on the "dirty" side of the hurricane. Plus, the track clearly shows that it didn't enter directly at Lake Ponchartrain, or even close. If an eye even passed directly over Ponchartrain from the Southeast; that would be a problem for New Orleans... It's bound to happen some day. :(
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#8 Postby cajungal » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:54 pm

I would of been 9. But, I don't even remember that at all. I guess I did not pay much attention to storms back then. Unlike now. Because now during Hurricane Season I am obsessed!
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#9 Postby Brent » Fri Jun 17, 2005 2:58 pm

Camille hit the same area and New Orleans, while they recieved hurricane force winds and rain didn't have a big surge since they were on the weak side. Georges also hit east of New Orleans and they were saved then. We've been over the scenario before and it's not going EAST of the city that will do it.
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#10 Postby Steve » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:11 pm

I think 1985 was Hurricane Juan. Juan was a hybrid storm that mostly brought rain. We got rain for about 3 days off and on from it. The streets would fill up when a feeder band passed and then drain off again. I drove around in it the whole time. Things weren't so rosy down the bayous where many coffins popped out of the ground and floated down roads and yards. We didn't get much wind out of Juan - maybe 30 or 40mph. But we did get some rain. Florence in 1988 passed right over the city. 2 of my friends were hosting a party that day after they got off of work. I had control of the beermeister for 6 hours waiting for them to get home from their jobs. By the time I woke up, the winds were already out of the SW ;) and it was 3am. I think we got gusts up to 60ish in Florence.

Oops - that was the track for Elana. I sat glued to my tv all day. I don't even think we got much (if any) rain out of that one. Slidell and coastal Mississippi did get some weather out of it.

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#11 Postby BayouVenteux » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:20 pm

New Orleans and points west were on the weak side of Elena, but the track did take the storm's center up into extreme northeast Washington Parish where the Bogalusa area experienced high winds that contributed to numerous downed trees and power lines.
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#12 Postby gboudx » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:22 pm

My grandfather and I were out running the softshell crab line when Elena passed North of New Orleans. I don't remember it being a big deal at all. This was in Lake Cataouche(sp).

If I remember Juan right, it caused major flooding where I grew up, and in Lafitte/Barataria area. My in-laws house in Lafitte flooded only 1 time, and that was during Juan.
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#13 Postby Aslkahuna » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:26 pm

There's some excellent video from Richard Horodner showing clear skies in the eye of Elena over Biloxi.

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#15 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:22 pm

Aslkahuna wrote:There's some excellent video from Richard Horodner showing clear skies in the eye of Elena over Biloxi.

Steve


Is that the one where the music in the background is by Phil Collins; "Coming in the air tonight?"

If so...I've got that one.
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#16 Postby Aslkahuna » Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:14 pm

Yep that's the one.

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#17 Postby tailgater » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:26 pm

Elena wasn't any prob for N.O. But I did notice there seemed to be a large # of storms hitting south LA. 1855-1879.
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#18 Postby Wpwxguy » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:14 pm

Although Elena did not dramatically affect the N.O. area she did affect my area. As BayouVenteux posted she did cause much damage in Washington Parish LA. I am about 11 miles NW of Bogalusa and the eye moved directly over us on her NW course. We were without power for 7 days. Numerous trees and power poles would be an understatement. Every road in the eastern half of the parish had trees on them. I traveled Hwy. 10 and there was some 25- 30 power poles in a row broken off about mid way up. Don't know if it was the winds or tornadic winds. There was quite a bit of damage. I'll try to find an estimate from my area. Winds were said to have been upwards of 80 mph with gusts to 100. It was an experience I'll always remember vividly.
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#19 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:22 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:1852 hurricane
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1855 cat3 hurricane.
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A cat4 hit LA just southwest of New orleans an 1856
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1860 cat3
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A little later that year a cat2 hit.
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Then again by another cat2
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Yes Eastern LA 1865
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Cat2 of 1867
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A cat1 hit in 1869
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Hurricane of 1877 cat1
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Cat3 of 1879
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Matt,

New Orleans wasn't in the right-front quadrant of the core of any of those hurricanes, with the possible exception of the borderline Cat 1 of 1869. Most of those hurricanes passed well east or west of the city, or New Orleans went through the weaker left side and missed the storm surge for the most part. I've been unable to find any instance of downtown New Orleans receiving Cat 3 winds from a hurriane (along with the surge) from 1851-present. They all seem to pass JUST far enough east or west to keep New Orleans relatively safe.
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Too close

#20 Postby bevgo » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:33 pm

My parents lived in NO in 1985. They evaced twice for Juan. They left heading for Meridian and heard the storm was heading away, returned to NO only to leave again. They lived only 3 blocks from the lake so we were very concerned.

I think the vodoo gods protect NO-LOL :lol: seems storms get close and then just turn away. I had way too many close calls while living there.
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