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Accurate #'s

#1 Postby Blown Away » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:04 am

Better satellite and greater attention given to the tropics isn't it fair to say the storm #'s are more accurate and/or inflated compared to the past. So are we really seeing more storms and more above average seasons or are more borderline storms getting named than in the past, example Bret. I'm sure others on the board could name many other storms in recent history that shouldn't have been named!
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#2 Postby recmod » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:38 am

Blown_away wrote:I'm sure others on the board could name many other storms in recent history that shouldn't have been named!

Why would you say that this storm SHOULDN'T have been named??? Just because this system was sitting 50 miles off the Mexican coast and would likely move inland after just a couple advisories is not justification to forego classifying it. Trust me, if this exact storm was lying 50 miles off the Florida coast, everyone on this board would be screaming at the NHC for being irresponsible if they chose NOT to classify it. This mentality of "if it ain't affecting the USA, it ain't worth mentioning" has got to stop. Remember, people DO live in these areas outside the United States!

I also bet a few board members can list some storms in recent history that SHOULD have been named (the May 2004 system that struck Haiti, killing over 3,000 comes to mind). I am always hearing complaints that the NHC is too conservative in naming systems....never the opposite.

While the advent of the satellite era almost certainly helped boost the total of detected storms, it is still plainly evident that the period since 1995 has had a major uptick in storm activity. Satellite technology came out Looooong before then, and I really don't think the NHC folks have been trigger-happy when it comes to classifying systems in recent seasons.

Just my 2 cents,

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#3 Postby Swimdude » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:01 pm

Of course it should've been named. It's a tropical storm, isn't it? Borderline, yes. But a tropical storm, nonetheless. They have to draw the line somewhere, and 39 mph just happens to be that line!
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#4 Postby Blown Away » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:23 pm

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"This mentality of "if it ain't affecting the USA, it ain't worth mentioning" has got to stop. Remember, people DO live in these areas outside the United States!"

Most of the people who post including myself are fully aware and compassionate that other parts of the world are affected by storms. The point and/or question I had was, using Bret as an example, would this storm have been given a name years ago. I suspect that borderline systems get named more often today than in the decades past thus affecting the overall season #'s. Recomod, The 3rd paragraph was a response to my question, your 1st & 2nd paragraph, I don't know how you ended up there based on my post.
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#5 Postby dhweather » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:39 pm

But the US can not be responsible for the weather of the world.


After the killer Tsunami, some in Asia tried to blame the US for not
notifying them?

Come on, we can't govern the world.
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#6 Postby *StOrmsPr* » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:37 pm

dhweather wrote:But the US can not be responsible for the weather of the world.


After the killer Tsunami, some in Asia tried to blame the US for not
notifying them?

Come on, we can't govern the world.


the thing here , no one is saying US is responsible for the weather of the world, and any one blaming USA for not notifying them of the tsunami is plain and simple CRAZY!! and don't have a clue of what they're talking.
NHC have the tropical forecast responsibility for north America, so they have to take on account other countries outside the USA!

just my .02 cents!
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#7 Postby dhweather » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:44 pm

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The Tropical Prediction Center (TPC) is a component of the National Centers for Environmental Prediction (NCEP) located at Florida International University in Miami, Florida. The TPC mission is to save lives, mitigate property loss, and improve economic efficiency by issuing the best watches, warnings, forecasts and analyses of hazardous tropical weather, and by increasing understanding of these hazards. The TPC vision is to be America's calm, clear and trusted voice in the eye of the storm and, with its partners, enable communities to be safe from tropical weather threats.

Through international agreement, the TPC has responsibility within the World Meteorological Organization to generate and coordinate tropical cyclone analysis and forecast products for twenty-four countries in the Americas, Caribbean, and for the waters of the North Atlantic Ocean, Caribbean Sea, Gulf of Mexico, and the eastern North Pacific Ocean. TPC products are distributed through a close working relationship with the media and emergency management communities.

To meet its mission the TPC is composed of three branches. The National Hurricane Center (NHC) maintains a continuous watch on tropical cyclones from 15 May in the eastern Pacific and 1 June in the Atlantic through November 30. The Center prepares and issues forecasts, watches and warnings within text advisories and graphical products. Although many countries issue their own warnings, they generally base them on direct discussions with, and guidance from, the NHC. During the "off-season", the NHC conducts an extensive outreach and education program, training U.S. emergency managers and representatives from many other countries affected by tropical cyclones.
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