JB going the distance on SW Carib wave

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#41 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:49 am

accuwx mets make next to nothing. As I stated, its only about 16K per year and you work about 52 hours per week. If you try to take another job before the 39 month contract expires, you are sued for breach of contract

JB of course likely makes more, but no way does he make what a G-15 or 15 NOAA official makes
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#42 Postby jax » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:51 am

Derek Ortt wrote:accuwx mets make next to nothing. As I stated, its only about 16K per year and you work about 52 hours per week. If you try to take another job before the 39 month contract expires, you are sued for breach of contract

JB of course likely makes more, but no way does he make what a G-15 or 15 NOAA official makes


trust me... JB makes 250k minimum... probably much more than that...

and he's just getting started...
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#43 Postby Trader Ron » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:56 am

Derek Ortt wrote:accuwx mets make next to nothing. As I stated, its only about 16K per year and you work about 52 hours per week. If you try to take another job before the 39 month contract expires, you are sued for breach of contract

JB of course likely makes more, but no way does he make what a G-15 or 15 NOAA official makes


Dr Joe Sobel and accuwxTV METS make only 16K a year? Hard to believe.
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#44 Postby dhweather » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:56 am

Well, if jb makes that kind of cash, remember, he's doing it by
"polishing and reselling" what the already provides with our
tax dollars.
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#45 Postby jax » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:58 am

dhweather wrote:Well, if jb makes that kind of cash, remember, he's doing it by
"polishing and reselling" what the already provides with our
tax dollars.


if that were the case, my fiend, we would ALL be making that kind
of money....
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#46 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:59 am

Derek Ortt wrote:accuwx mets make next to nothing. As I stated, its only about 16K per year and you work about 52 hours per week. If you try to take another job before the 39 month contract expires, you are sued for breach of contract

JB of course likely makes more, but no way does he make what a G-15 or 15 NOAA official makes


Right. Accuweather is the sweatshop of the weather forecasting world. Those poor undergrads that come out of Penn State need a job...and Myers is there...contract in hand (and a court over if they try to break it) to offer them one.
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#47 Postby Portastorm » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:00 pm

Alright, let's get back to the meteorological side of this ... what is the climate ahead for the wave? Light shear?

Why would a system be progged by both the GFS and ECMWF to hit the central Gulf coast or even Fla panhandle? Looks like a fairly deep trough is forecast to develop next week over the eastern US, right?
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#48 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:02 pm

I guarantee you that Bastardi doesn't make 250K per year. Anyone thinking that he does is clueless regarding how that company works


Sobel probably makes more, but as AFMET says, it is the sweatshop of forecasting. Pathetic that a GRADUATE STUDENT gets paid about 6K more than does Accuwx, and thats only if they are making the bare minumum as a grad student (just started with no fellowship).

The TV mets are not paid by Accuwx, but by the TV station
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#49 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:02 pm

Trader Ron wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:accuwx mets make next to nothing. As I stated, its only about 16K per year and you work about 52 hours per week. If you try to take another job before the 39 month contract expires, you are sued for breach of contract

JB of course likely makes more, but no way does he make what a G-15 or 15 NOAA official makes


Dr Joe Sobel and accuwxTV METS make only 16K a year? Hard to believe.


No...but the lower teir guys do...those right out of college. It's a sweatshop. Accuweather is a joke (because it is a sweatshop) among most mets in this country because of that. We joke that "well...we could be stuck in a contract working for accuweather...".
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#50 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:05 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I guarantee you that Bastardi doesn't make 250K per year. Anyone thinking that he does is clueless regarding how that company works


Sobel probably makes more, but as AFMET says, it is the sweatshop of forecasting. Pathetic that a GRADUATE STUDENT gets paid about 6K more than does Accuwx, and thats only if they are making the bare minumum as a grad student (just started with no fellowship).

The TV mets are not paid by Accuwx, but by the TV station


Right. I truly feel sorry for those guys. But...the other part of me says "if you are dumb enough to sign that contract...then that's your fault. It's not like they drugged you and made you do it." Although...sometimes I have to wonder if there is someone in a back room working with a voodoo doll when the recent grads come rolling through.
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#51 Postby gkrangers » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:08 pm

16k? :eek:

I'll never complain about first year airline pilot pay again...
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#52 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:12 pm

the problem is, few know any better right out of college. Most are unaware of what the field truly pays and this is often their first job (as Accuwx easily hires... probably because they need mets since nobody wants to go there).

They tried this little stunt a few years ago on Cangialosi... <b>BIG MISTAKE JOEL MYERS! you FOOL!</b> He made significantly more as a grad student and is now making more than twice what he would have at Accuwx as a research associate with a Masters. They lost one of the best mets in the nation because of their stupidity and really ticked off this met as well for their disrespecting of a friend of mine
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#53 Postby jax » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:13 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I guarantee you that Bastardi doesn't make 250K per year. Anyone thinking that he does is clueless regarding how that company works


Sobel probably makes more, but as AFMET says, it is the sweatshop of forecasting. Pathetic that a GRADUATE STUDENT gets paid about 6K more than does Accuwx, and thats only if they are making the bare minumum as a grad student (just started with no fellowship).

The TV mets are not paid by Accuwx, but by the TV station


it's the private sector Derek.... He make 250k minimum... easy...

accuweather grosses over 5mill per year....
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#54 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:15 pm

no, jax, that doesn't matter


will you listen to what AFMET and myself are saying about the company? They don't pay ANYONE that much.

By chance, are you Joel Myers?
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#55 Postby jax » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:19 pm

no i'm not... i'm a private sector business ower that
realizes JB's value to accuweather...

I'm not sure if your in the private sector or not...
but Derek... if your not... you need to get there.

Your value is 100k plus.... if you have the public
personality needed.
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#56 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:25 pm

jax wrote:no i'm not... i'm a private sector business ower that
realizes JB's value to accuweather...

I'm not sure if your in the private sector or not...
but Derek... if your not... you need to get there.

Your value is 100k plus.... if you have the public
personality needed.


I was in private sector meteorology...a rival to accuweather...and I can assure you that things work differently in private sector meteorology than they do in regular business. I hate to say it...but you don't know what you are talking about. I have worked private sector weather...on a special care team which handled the "BIG BOYS"...sending out thousands of dollars of biz per day to clients...and I made $950 every two weeks with 12 years of experience...12 YEARS!! And as a top Air Force Forecaster (one several competitions)...that's why I am BACK on active duty. I could not raise a family on what I was making in the private sector...even with all my experience and talent.

Don't make those claims Jax because of some experience you have that is not even related to the field. You have no idea.
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#57 Postby jax » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:28 pm

i have weather experience...
I know what i'm talking about...

JB makes the big bucks....
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#58 Postby MWatkins » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:47 pm

jax wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:I guarantee you that Bastardi doesn't make 250K per year. Anyone thinking that he does is clueless regarding how that company works


Sobel probably makes more, but as AFMET says, it is the sweatshop of forecasting. Pathetic that a GRADUATE STUDENT gets paid about 6K more than does Accuwx, and thats only if they are making the bare minumum as a grad student (just started with no fellowship).

The TV mets are not paid by Accuwx, but by the TV station


it's the private sector Derek.... He make 250k minimum... easy...

accuweather grosses over 5mill per year....


That means that JB would account for 5% of accuweather's gross for the year? That's a lot of money tied up in one resource.

That could explain why they are so worried about the NWS...if they have all of that money tied up in one resource...

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#59 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:54 pm

jax wrote:i have weather experience...
I know what i'm talking about...

JB makes the big bucks....


What is your weather experience? We have all been open about ours...what is your's? Are you degreed? If so...you need a tag. Do you have militaryexperience? If so...where and when? What is your experience?

In order for your argument to carry more weight...you said you have experience...and that is fine...I did the same thing. Please clarify and state your exact experience.

Thanks.
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#60 Postby RevDodd » Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:05 pm

Dang! Sounds like the newspaper bid'ness....


My first job, the publisher was proud of the fact he managed to pay us $5 too much to qualify for food stamps.

"No college grad should have to need food stamps!" he said.
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