Upper Texas coast long overdue!

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Upper Texas coast long overdue!

#1 Postby raynpa » Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:29 pm

The last time a hurricane hit the upper Tx. coast was 1986, cat. 1 Bonnie.
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Re: Upper Texas coast long overdue!

#2 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:57 pm

raynpa wrote:The last time a hurricane hit the upper Tx. coast was 1986, cat. 1 Bonnie.


1989...Hurricane Chantal and Hurricane Jerry...

Plus...there's no such thing as overdue :-) It's all dynamics and the set-up...the atmosphere has no idea it has not sent a Hurricane into the upper Texas coast in 16 years. The odds of getting heads in a coin flip are 1 in 2...even if you have had 100 tails in a row. Same in weather.

That being said...the pattern is more condusive for a hurricane to impact the upper Texas coast than it was in the 90's...so the odds are a little better.
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#3 Postby southerngale » Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:58 pm

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Texas coast inundated.
Hurricane Bonnie, 1986, near HIgh Island Texas. 5 foot tidal surge erases Hy. 87 west of Sabine.



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Just a cat. 1


Beaumont lived with out a strong hurricane until one fateful day on June 23rd 1986. On that day Hurricane Bonnie roared thru the region with maximum winds at 90 miles per hour (gusts to 125 mph) creating a havoc on local roadways because of the massive amounts of rain dumped on the area. Some regions received upwards of 10-15 inches in some places, flooding homes and businesses. Many mobile home parks were destroyed, people were displaced and some businesses in the area never recovered. 3 people lost they're lives in Bonnie. Beaumont showed the hometown spirit and quickly recovered and got back on the track. The region had some hits and misses but none more so than in 1992 when Hurricane Andrew threatened the area. Beaumont was under a hurricane warning and evacuation procedures took place. It was rough going for the evacs. But when all was said and done, the evacuation was the largest peacetime evacuation in the United States since Hurricane Carla in 1961. Andrew would totally miss the Beaumont area, but it was a scare that still haunts the area today. More recently Beaumonters dealt with Tropical Storm Allison in 2001. Although Beaumont and the vicinity did not get the damage and destruction that Houston got, marks were still left and some are still being felt today. Homes are still abandoned due to massive flooding that took place because of the non stop 5 day rainfall. Total rainfall amounts associated with Allison reached the 20 inch mark in most towns and cities in Southeast Texas. Hurricane Lili threatened the area in 2003 as a category 4 hurricane, and prompted another "Andrew-Style" evacuation. Though large, it went relatively smoothly and didn't mirror the 1992 evacuation. Beaumont and the surrounding cities were left as a ghost town, only to return to the same thing. Lili veered north into central Louisiana and did not affect the region significantly.

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#4 Postby southerngale » Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:00 pm

AFM, I'm guessing he meant a little further up the Texas coast. Bonnie was the last direct hit here, for a hurricane.

I agree with you about being overdue.
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#5 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:21 pm

southerngale wrote:AFM, I'm guessing he meant a little further up the Texas coast. Bonnie was the last direct hit here, for a hurricane.

I agree with you about being overdue.


NHC Chantal Prelim - "The center of Hurricane Chantal crossed the upper Texas coast near High Island..."
This area is a part of the upper Texas coast...but I see what you are saying.
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#6 Postby Brent » Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:22 pm

Claudette was close... that long awaited turn was almost too late.
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#7 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:26 pm

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southerngale wrote:AFM, I'm guessing he meant a little further up the Texas coast. Bonnie was the last direct hit here, for a hurricane.

I agree with you about being overdue.


NHC Chantal Prelim - "The center of Hurricane Chantal crossed the upper Texas coast near High Island..."
This area is a part of the upper Texas coast...but I see what you are saying.


AFM, I've always wondered if Surfside/Freeport is considered "upper Texas coast" or "middle?"
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#8 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:43 pm

Stratosphere747 wrote:
Air Force Met wrote:
southerngale wrote:AFM, I'm guessing he meant a little further up the Texas coast. Bonnie was the last direct hit here, for a hurricane.

I agree with you about being overdue.


NHC Chantal Prelim - "The center of Hurricane Chantal crossed the upper Texas coast near High Island..."
This area is a part of the upper Texas coast...but I see what you are saying.


AFM, I've always wondered if Surfside/Freeport is considered "upper Texas coast" or "middle?"


Here is your answer:

TROPICAL STORM IVAN LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
1255 AM CDT THU SEP 23 2004

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE UPPER TEXAS COAST FROM
NORTH OF SARGENT TO HIGH ISLAND...

So...according to the NHC...I think anything east of Sargent is upper Texas Coast...middle Texas coast is west of Sargent....because Matagorda Bay is considered middle Texas coast.
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#9 Postby raynpa » Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:56 pm

I said hurricane.......the last hurricane that Bmt./Pt. Arthur felt any major weather from was Bonnie.
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#10 Postby southerngale » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:02 pm

raynpa wrote:I said hurricane.......the last hurricane that Bmt./Pt. Arthur felt any major weather from was Bonnie.


And he named two hurricanes, Chantal and Jerry. Like I said earlier, you meant further up the Upper Texas Coast as both of those technically hit the Upper Texas Coast too. I knew what you meant, but he's right too. Maybe if you'd orignally said Bmt./Pt. Arthur, that would have solved it. lol :)
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#11 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:27 pm

raynpa wrote:I said hurricane.......the last hurricane that Bmt./Pt. Arthur felt any major weather from was Bonnie.


No...you said "The last time a hurricane hit the upper Tx. coast was 1986, cat. 1 Bonnie."

Both Jerry and Chantal were hurricanes and hit the upper Texas coast...at least according to the official definition of what defines the upper Texas coast according to the NHC. You didn't say Bmt/Pt Arthur. If you had said that...then you would be correct. Bonnie was the last time that area was directly hit...but there is more to the upper Texas coast than Bmt/Pt Arthur. As you can see in another post of mine...the NHC considers Sergant in the upper Texas Coast...
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#12 Postby LaBreeze » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:37 pm

Just one correction - Hurricane Lili was in 2002 not 2003.
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#13 Postby swimaster20 » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:39 pm

LaBreeze wrote:Just one correction - Hurricane Lili was in 2002 not 2003.


I'll sure never forget that storm!
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#14 Postby LaBreeze » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:43 pm

Neither will I. She passed right over my house taking out my patio, garage, half of my roof and most of the large oak trees in my yard. She has a burst when she came onshore that not many people report on.
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#15 Postby Air Force Met » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:10 pm

LaBreeze wrote:Neither will I. She passed right over my house taking out my patio, garage, half of my roof and most of the large oak trees in my yard. She has a burst when she came onshore that not many people report on.


Now how could a storm named "Lili" be so destructive? Sounds like your great-Aunt or something :-)

Seriously...Lili gave me headaches. My buddy, who is in the LA air guard (but supports the army) was ordered to the coast by an army general to take wx observations in Lili. At the time he was headed out...it was still a cat 4. He had a pale look on his face. He survived...but thinks he might disobey a direct order next time. :lol:
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#16 Postby Brent » Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:45 pm

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LaBreeze wrote:Neither will I. She passed right over my house taking out my patio, garage, half of my roof and most of the large oak trees in my yard. She has a burst when she came onshore that not many people report on.


Now how could a storm named "Lili" be so destructive? Sounds like your great-Aunt or something :-)

Seriously...Lili gave me headaches. My buddy, who is in the LA air guard (but supports the army) was ordered to the coast by an army general to take wx observations in Lili. At the time he was headed out...it was still a cat 4. He had a pale look on his face. He survived...but thinks he might disobey a direct order next time. :lol:


Lili was :shocked!: at 4pm and then 12 hours later it was :grr:

LOL :lol:

Yes... Lili does sound like your great-grandmother or something... kinda like Frances. :lol:
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#17 Postby southerngale » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:03 pm

LaBreeze wrote:Just one correction - Hurricane Lili was in 2002 not 2003.


You're right. I should have noticed that when I read it and corrected it before pasting it. The portion I pasted also makes it sound like Bonnie was Beaumont's first hurricane. If you click on the link, you'll see that it was just continuing part of the story. Oh well, I was really just trying to get the Bonnie part out there. lol
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#18 Postby Swimdude » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:43 pm

Ok, i've only complained about Texas avoiding major hits for the past few months. I've probably made a post like this one several times. It's true. We're overdue. That's all I have to say on the matter.
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#19 Postby Radar » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:12 am

I guess being overdue is a bad thing when you are having a baby....

But when talking hurricanes..overdue is what you WANT to be! :wink:
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#20 Postby GalvestonDuck » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:53 am

We're not overdue...we're just procrastinating for as long as we can. :)
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