NW Caribbean Invest developing nicely this a.m.....

[wxboy]

here's some proof center is around 84 and 20 :

[dixiebreeze]

Still too "weak," but it should be at least No Name soon -- or maybe just jump to a TD at the next update:

03/1145 UTC 18.0N 86.2W TOO WEAK 96 -- Atlantic Ocean

[Derek Ortt]

thats not proof that a center is there. Just that there is convection there

[wxboy]

definite turning Derick!

[Air Force Met]

definite turning Derick!

The center is certainly not near 84W...you have a buoy 60 miles to the west of your position with easterly winds. If there is a center where you say it is...please explain why there are consistant easterly winds at that buoy.

Not possible.

[skysummit]

Hmmm....I'm going to say the center is in the vicinity of 18.2/85.5. That's just by looking at visible and nothing else. I also have to agree with Derek that it's still in a W - WNW course. I don't see anything that says it's turning.

[HouTXmetro]

Can we atleast get a TD so we can start plotting this THING!!!!!!!!!

[tw861]

definite turning Derick!

Dude you need to chill and lets just see what happens. You've got 22 posts and all of them are this morning trying to prove its moving NW when the consensus of most everyone here and at the TPC is that this is moving wnw. As I said before time will tell. There is no center near 84 Just relax for now.

[dhweather]

Can we atleast get a TD so we can start plotting this THING!!!!!!!!!

Patience, Grasshopper, by tomorrow we will have one.

[wxboy]

when I say turning, I mean spinning. not that it is making a turn!

[dhweather]

definite turning Derick!

There's a broad low at best right now, with two areas that are candidates
for centers. There is not a closed LLC right now.

[skysummit]

when I say turning, I mean spinning. not that it is making a turn!

HUH? This entire morning you've been saying it's moving NW.

[wxboy]

yes. It HAS been moving NW. I am looking at the ENTIRE system, where a LLC is most likely to form!

[wxman57]

Here's a new GARP image. Looks like any center is around 86W, about 80-90 miles offshore:

<img src="http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/carib13.gif">

[wxboy]

yes. It HAS been moving NW. I am looking at the ENTIRE system, where a LLC is most likely to form!

[skysummit]

yes. It HAS been moving NW. I am looking at the ENTIRE system, where a LLC is most likely to form!

That doesn't make any sense. I quit.

[dixiebreeze]

May be some help in defining the center from this water vapor image?:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/WATL/WV/20.jpg

[dhweather]

Here's a new GARP image. Looks like any center is around 86W, about 80-90 miles offshore:

<img src="http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/carib13.gif">

Many thanks for the GARP shot.

What's your opinion of another possible center of circulation/vortex
to the NE of the L you depicted in the graphic?

[HouTXmetro]

yes. It HAS been moving NW. I am looking at the ENTIRE system, where a LLC is most likely to form!

That doesn't make any sense. I quit.

LOL, don't quit. But I think he is talking about the overall movement of the system and the fact that the center can reform in weak systems. Right?

[dixiebreeze]

From the TPC for Monday, July 4:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb_latest/atl ... testBW.gif