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TROPICAL DEPRESSION INVEST (EP932005) ON 20050703 1200 UTC
...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
050703 1200 050704 0000 050704 1200 050705 0000
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 13.6N 99.9W 13.7N 100.9W 14.0N 102.3W 14.7N 103.8W
BAMM 13.6N 99.9W 13.8N 100.6W 14.1N 101.6W 14.9N 102.9W
LBAR 13.6N 99.9W 13.8N 101.1W 14.5N 102.9W 15.5N 105.2W
SHIP 25KTS 30KTS 37KTS 45KTS
DSHP 25KTS 30KTS 37KTS 45KTS
...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
050705 1200 050706 1200 050707 1200 050708 1200
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 15.4N 105.7W 16.9N 110.5W 17.7N 115.5W 17.4N 120.8W
BAMM 15.7N 104.2W 17.3N 107.9W 18.2N 112.1W 18.1N 117.1W
LBAR 16.8N 107.7W 19.9N 113.3W 22.6N 117.8W 24.0N 120.3W
SHIP 51KTS 52KTS 45KTS 37KTS
DSHP 51KTS 52KTS 45KTS 37KTS
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 13.6N LONCUR = 99.9W DIRCUR = 290DEG SPDCUR = 5KT
LATM12 = 13.3N LONM12 = 98.7W DIRM12 = 292DEG SPDM12 = 5KT
LATM24 = 12.9N LONM24 = 97.8W
WNDCUR = 25KT RMAXWD = 60NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1008MB OUTPRS = 1011MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
Not yet a depression but very close.
...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
050703 1200 050704 0000 050704 1200 050705 0000
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 13.6N 99.9W 13.7N 100.9W 14.0N 102.3W 14.7N 103.8W
BAMM 13.6N 99.9W 13.8N 100.6W 14.1N 101.6W 14.9N 102.9W
LBAR 13.6N 99.9W 13.8N 101.1W 14.5N 102.9W 15.5N 105.2W
SHIP 25KTS 30KTS 37KTS 45KTS
DSHP 25KTS 30KTS 37KTS 45KTS
...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
050705 1200 050706 1200 050707 1200 050708 1200
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 15.4N 105.7W 16.9N 110.5W 17.7N 115.5W 17.4N 120.8W
BAMM 15.7N 104.2W 17.3N 107.9W 18.2N 112.1W 18.1N 117.1W
LBAR 16.8N 107.7W 19.9N 113.3W 22.6N 117.8W 24.0N 120.3W
SHIP 51KTS 52KTS 45KTS 37KTS
DSHP 51KTS 52KTS 45KTS 37KTS
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 13.6N LONCUR = 99.9W DIRCUR = 290DEG SPDCUR = 5KT
LATM12 = 13.3N LONM12 = 98.7W DIRM12 = 292DEG SPDM12 = 5KT
LATM24 = 12.9N LONM24 = 97.8W
WNDCUR = 25KT RMAXWD = 60NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1008MB OUTPRS = 1011MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
Not yet a depression but very close.
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ABPZ20 KNHC 031640
TWOEP
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
10 AM PDT SUN JUL 3 2005
FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE.
THE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE LOCATED ABOUT 175 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF
ACAPULCO MEXICO CONTINUES TO SHOW SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION...AND HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION LATER TODAY OR
ON MONDAY AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH. THIS
SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL ALONG PORTIONS
OF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM SALINA CRUZ WESTWARD TO
ZIHUATANEJO OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH MONDAY.
FORECASTER PASCH
TWOEP
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
10 AM PDT SUN JUL 3 2005
FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE.
THE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE LOCATED ABOUT 175 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF
ACAPULCO MEXICO CONTINUES TO SHOW SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION...AND HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION LATER TODAY OR
ON MONDAY AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 5 TO 10 MPH. THIS
SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL ALONG PORTIONS
OF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM SALINA CRUZ WESTWARD TO
ZIHUATANEJO OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH MONDAY.
FORECASTER PASCH
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ABPZ20 KNHC 032248
TWOEP
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
4 PM PDT SUN JUL 3 2005
FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE.
THE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE LOCATED ABOUT 160 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF
ACAPULCO MEXICO CONTINUES TO SHOW SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION...AND HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION LATER TONIGHT OR
ON MONDAY AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TO NORTHWESTWARD AT 5 TO 10
MPH. THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL
ALONG PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM SALINA CRUZ
WESTWARD TO ZIHUATANEJO OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH MONDAY.
FORECASTER STEWART
A TD tonight or tommorow morning as it looks very good in ppics.
TWOEP
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
4 PM PDT SUN JUL 3 2005
FOR THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC...EAST OF 140 DEGREES WEST LONGITUDE.
THE TROPICAL DISTURBANCE LOCATED ABOUT 160 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF
ACAPULCO MEXICO CONTINUES TO SHOW SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION...AND HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL DEPRESSION LATER TONIGHT OR
ON MONDAY AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TO NORTHWESTWARD AT 5 TO 10
MPH. THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL
ALONG PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM SALINA CRUZ
WESTWARD TO ZIHUATANEJO OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL STORM FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED THROUGH MONDAY.
FORECASTER STEWART
A TD tonight or tommorow morning as it looks very good in ppics.
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Td#4-E forms in EPAC
Depression Four-E Special Forecast/Advisory Number 1
Statement as of 04:00Z on July 04, 2005
at 900 PM PDT...0400z...the government of Mexico has issued a
Tropical Storm Warning for portions of the south-central coast of
Mexico from Acapulco westward to Zihuatanejo.
At 900 PM PDT...0400z...the government of Mexico has issued a
tropical storm watch for portions of the southwestern coast of
Mexico from west of Zihuatanejo westward to Punta sel telmo.
Tropical depression center located near 14.8n 99.6w at 04/0400z
position accurate within 30 nm
present movement toward the northwest or 325 degrees at 5 kt
estimated minimum central pressure 1008 mb
Max sustained winds 30 kt with gusts to 30 kt.
Winds and seas vary greatly in each quadrant. Radii in nautical
miles are the largest radii expected anywhere in that quadrant.
Repeat...center located near 14.8n 99.6w at 04/0400z
at 04/0000z center was located near 14.5n 99.4w
forecast valid 04/1200z 15.4n 100.0w
Max wind 35 kt...gusts 45 kt.
34 kt... 30ne 30se 30sw 30nw.
Forecast valid 05/0000z 16.2n 101.0w
Max wind 40 kt...gusts 50 kt.
34 kt... 35ne 35se 35sw 35nw.
Forecast valid 05/1200z 16.9n 102.1w
Max wind 45 kt...gusts 55 kt.
34 kt... 40ne 40se 40sw 40nw.
Forecast valid 06/0000z 17.8n 103.7w
Max wind 50 kt...gusts 60 kt.
50 kt... 20ne 20se 20sw 20nw.
34 kt... 45ne 45se 45sw 45nw.
Forecast valid 07/0000z 19.0n 106.8w
Max wind 40 kt...gusts 50 kt.
34 kt... 45ne 45se 45sw 45nw.
Extended outlook. Note...errors for track have averaged near 200 nm
on day 4 and 250 nm on day 5...and for intensity near 20 kt each day
outlook valid 08/0000z 19.5n 110.0w...dissipating
Max wind 30 kt...gusts 40 kt.
Outlook valid 09/0000z 20.0n 114.5w...remnant low
Max wind 20 kt...gusts 25 kt.
Request for 3 hourly ship reports within 300 miles of 14.8n 99.6w
next advisory at 04/0900z
forecaster Stewart
TD forms in EPAC and very soon it will be Dora.
Statement as of 04:00Z on July 04, 2005
at 900 PM PDT...0400z...the government of Mexico has issued a
Tropical Storm Warning for portions of the south-central coast of
Mexico from Acapulco westward to Zihuatanejo.
At 900 PM PDT...0400z...the government of Mexico has issued a
tropical storm watch for portions of the southwestern coast of
Mexico from west of Zihuatanejo westward to Punta sel telmo.
Tropical depression center located near 14.8n 99.6w at 04/0400z
position accurate within 30 nm
present movement toward the northwest or 325 degrees at 5 kt
estimated minimum central pressure 1008 mb
Max sustained winds 30 kt with gusts to 30 kt.
Winds and seas vary greatly in each quadrant. Radii in nautical
miles are the largest radii expected anywhere in that quadrant.
Repeat...center located near 14.8n 99.6w at 04/0400z
at 04/0000z center was located near 14.5n 99.4w
forecast valid 04/1200z 15.4n 100.0w
Max wind 35 kt...gusts 45 kt.
34 kt... 30ne 30se 30sw 30nw.
Forecast valid 05/0000z 16.2n 101.0w
Max wind 40 kt...gusts 50 kt.
34 kt... 35ne 35se 35sw 35nw.
Forecast valid 05/1200z 16.9n 102.1w
Max wind 45 kt...gusts 55 kt.
34 kt... 40ne 40se 40sw 40nw.
Forecast valid 06/0000z 17.8n 103.7w
Max wind 50 kt...gusts 60 kt.
50 kt... 20ne 20se 20sw 20nw.
34 kt... 45ne 45se 45sw 45nw.
Forecast valid 07/0000z 19.0n 106.8w
Max wind 40 kt...gusts 50 kt.
34 kt... 45ne 45se 45sw 45nw.
Extended outlook. Note...errors for track have averaged near 200 nm
on day 4 and 250 nm on day 5...and for intensity near 20 kt each day
outlook valid 08/0000z 19.5n 110.0w...dissipating
Max wind 30 kt...gusts 40 kt.
Outlook valid 09/0000z 20.0n 114.5w...remnant low
Max wind 20 kt...gusts 25 kt.
Request for 3 hourly ship reports within 300 miles of 14.8n 99.6w
next advisory at 04/0900z
forecaster Stewart
TD forms in EPAC and very soon it will be Dora.
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The score now is 4-3 in favor of the EPAC.But wave 97 may tie things up. 
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Statement as of 9:00 PM PDT on July 03, 2005
...Fourth tropical depression of the season develops south of
Acapulco Mexico...
...Tropical storm watches and warnings issued for Mexico...
at 900 PM PDT...0400z...the government of Mexico has issued a
Tropical Storm Warning for portions of the south-central coast of
Mexico from Acapulco westward to Zihuatanejo.
At 900 PM PDT...0400z...the government of Mexico has issued a
tropical storm watch for portions of the southwestern coast of
Mexico from west of Zihuatanejo westward to Punta sel telmo.
For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.
At 9 PM PDT...0400z...satellite images and Mexican radar information
from Acapulco indicate the center of Tropical Depression Four-E
was located near latitude 14.8 north... longitude 99.6 west or
about 145 miles... 235 km...south of Acapulco Mexico.
The depression is moving toward the northwest near 6 mph
... 9 km/hr...and this general motion is expected to continue
for the next 24 hours. On the forecast track...the center of the
depression may pass near the south-central coast of Mexico by
late Monday or early Tuesday.
Maximum sustained winds are near 35 mph... 55 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Some strengthening is forecast and the depression could
become a tropical storm on Monday.
The estimated minimum central pressure is 1008 mb...29.77 inches.
Locally heavy rainfall of 3 to 5 inches will be possible along the
south-central coast of Mexico from Punta Maldonado westward to
Zihuatanejo.
Repeating the 9 PM PDT position...14.8 N... 99.6 W. Movement
toward...northwest near 6 mph. Maximum sustained
winds... 35 mph. Minimum central pressure...1008 mb.
An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National
Hurricane Center at 11 PM PDT followed by the next
complete advisory at 2 am PDT.
Forecaster Stewart/Beven
...Fourth tropical depression of the season develops south of
Acapulco Mexico...
...Tropical storm watches and warnings issued for Mexico...
at 900 PM PDT...0400z...the government of Mexico has issued a
Tropical Storm Warning for portions of the south-central coast of
Mexico from Acapulco westward to Zihuatanejo.
At 900 PM PDT...0400z...the government of Mexico has issued a
tropical storm watch for portions of the southwestern coast of
Mexico from west of Zihuatanejo westward to Punta sel telmo.
For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.
At 9 PM PDT...0400z...satellite images and Mexican radar information
from Acapulco indicate the center of Tropical Depression Four-E
was located near latitude 14.8 north... longitude 99.6 west or
about 145 miles... 235 km...south of Acapulco Mexico.
The depression is moving toward the northwest near 6 mph
... 9 km/hr...and this general motion is expected to continue
for the next 24 hours. On the forecast track...the center of the
depression may pass near the south-central coast of Mexico by
late Monday or early Tuesday.
Maximum sustained winds are near 35 mph... 55 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Some strengthening is forecast and the depression could
become a tropical storm on Monday.
The estimated minimum central pressure is 1008 mb...29.77 inches.
Locally heavy rainfall of 3 to 5 inches will be possible along the
south-central coast of Mexico from Punta Maldonado westward to
Zihuatanejo.
Repeating the 9 PM PDT position...14.8 N... 99.6 W. Movement
toward...northwest near 6 mph. Maximum sustained
winds... 35 mph. Minimum central pressure...1008 mb.
An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National
Hurricane Center at 11 PM PDT followed by the next
complete advisory at 2 am PDT.
Forecaster Stewart/Beven
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TCDEP4
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E SPECIAL DISCUSSION NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
9 PM PDT SUN JUL 03 2005
SATELLITE IMAGERY AND DATA FROM THE ACAPULCO RADAR INDICATE THE
TROPICAL DISTURBANCE SOUTH OF ACAPULCO HAS BECOME MUCH BETTER
ORGANIZED THIS EVENING...AND HAS DEVELOPED INTO TROPICAL DEPRESSION
FOUR-E. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES AT 04/00Z WERE A CONSENSUS
T1.5/25 KT...BUT RADAR DATA INDICATE THAT A TIGHT BANDING FEATURE
HAS DEVELOPED AROUND THE CIRCULATION CENTER. STRONG CONVECTION HAS
ALSO DEVELOPED NEAR THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER...AND A 04/0014Z QUIKSCAT
OVERPASS INDICATED A TIGHT SURFACE CIRCULATION AND A FEW
UNCONTAMINATED WINDS OF 25-30 KT IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT.
THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 325/05. THE DEPRESSION IS EXPECTED TO
CONTINUE TO MOVE SLOWLY NORTHWESTWARD ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY
OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE THAT EXTENDS EAST-WEST ACROSS NORTHERN
MEXICO AND TEXAS. THERE IS A WEAKNESS IN THE RIDGE OVER SOUTHERN
MEXICO...BUT THAT IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY FILL IN AND CAUSE THE
CYCLONE TO MOVE MORE WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT A FASTER FORWARD SPEED
BY 36 HOURS OR SO. A MORE WESTWARD TURN IS EXPECTED AFTER 72 HOURS
AS THE CYCLONE MOVES OVER COLDER WATER AND WEAKENS...AND IS STEERED
MORE BY THE LOW-LEVEL EASTERLY FLOW. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS
A BLEND OF THE MEDIUM BAM AND GFDL MODELS. HOWEVER...THE GFDL MODEL
BRINGS THE CENTER OF THE CYCLONE VERY CLOSE TO MEXICAN COAST IN
24-36 HOURS...WHICH HAS PROMPTED THE ISSUANCE OF A TROPICAL STORM
WATCH AND WARNING FOR THE SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO.
TD-3E IS A SMALL AND COMPACT TROPICAL CYCLONE...WHICH MEANS IT WILL
BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO RAPID FLUCTUATIONS IN INTENSITY. RIGHT NOW...A
STRONG BURST OF -75 TO -80C TOPS HAS DEVELOPED JUST NORTH OF THE
CENTER. THE UPPER-LEVEL FLOW PATTERN IS ANTICYCLONIC...WHICH SHOULD
ALLOW FOR SOME DECENT OUTFLOW TO GRADUALLY DEVELOP. THE CLOSE
PROXIMITY TO LAND FOR THE NEXT 36-48 HOURS...AND THEN MOVING OVER
COLDER WATER AFTERWARDS...WILL PROBABLY PREVENT THIS CYCLONE FROM
REACHING HURRICANE STRENGTH. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS
SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN THE SHIPS AND GFDL MODELS.
FORECASTER STEWART/BEVEN
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 04/0400Z 14.8N 99.6W 30 KT
12HR VT 04/1200Z 15.4N 100.0W 35 KT
24HR VT 05/0000Z 16.2N 101.0W 40 KT
36HR VT 05/1200Z 16.9N 102.1W 45 KT
48HR VT 06/0000Z 17.8N 103.7W 50 KT
72HR VT 07/0000Z 19.0N 106.8W 40 KT
96HR VT 08/0000Z 19.5N 110.0W 30 KT...DISSIPATING
120HR VT 09/0000Z 20.0N 114.5W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW
The discussion as always when Stacy Stewart does them are very long and well written.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E SPECIAL DISCUSSION NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
9 PM PDT SUN JUL 03 2005
SATELLITE IMAGERY AND DATA FROM THE ACAPULCO RADAR INDICATE THE
TROPICAL DISTURBANCE SOUTH OF ACAPULCO HAS BECOME MUCH BETTER
ORGANIZED THIS EVENING...AND HAS DEVELOPED INTO TROPICAL DEPRESSION
FOUR-E. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES AT 04/00Z WERE A CONSENSUS
T1.5/25 KT...BUT RADAR DATA INDICATE THAT A TIGHT BANDING FEATURE
HAS DEVELOPED AROUND THE CIRCULATION CENTER. STRONG CONVECTION HAS
ALSO DEVELOPED NEAR THE LOW-LEVEL CENTER...AND A 04/0014Z QUIKSCAT
OVERPASS INDICATED A TIGHT SURFACE CIRCULATION AND A FEW
UNCONTAMINATED WINDS OF 25-30 KT IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT.
THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 325/05. THE DEPRESSION IS EXPECTED TO
CONTINUE TO MOVE SLOWLY NORTHWESTWARD ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY
OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE THAT EXTENDS EAST-WEST ACROSS NORTHERN
MEXICO AND TEXAS. THERE IS A WEAKNESS IN THE RIDGE OVER SOUTHERN
MEXICO...BUT THAT IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY FILL IN AND CAUSE THE
CYCLONE TO MOVE MORE WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT A FASTER FORWARD SPEED
BY 36 HOURS OR SO. A MORE WESTWARD TURN IS EXPECTED AFTER 72 HOURS
AS THE CYCLONE MOVES OVER COLDER WATER AND WEAKENS...AND IS STEERED
MORE BY THE LOW-LEVEL EASTERLY FLOW. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS
A BLEND OF THE MEDIUM BAM AND GFDL MODELS. HOWEVER...THE GFDL MODEL
BRINGS THE CENTER OF THE CYCLONE VERY CLOSE TO MEXICAN COAST IN
24-36 HOURS...WHICH HAS PROMPTED THE ISSUANCE OF A TROPICAL STORM
WATCH AND WARNING FOR THE SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO.
TD-3E IS A SMALL AND COMPACT TROPICAL CYCLONE...WHICH MEANS IT WILL
BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO RAPID FLUCTUATIONS IN INTENSITY. RIGHT NOW...A
STRONG BURST OF -75 TO -80C TOPS HAS DEVELOPED JUST NORTH OF THE
CENTER. THE UPPER-LEVEL FLOW PATTERN IS ANTICYCLONIC...WHICH SHOULD
ALLOW FOR SOME DECENT OUTFLOW TO GRADUALLY DEVELOP. THE CLOSE
PROXIMITY TO LAND FOR THE NEXT 36-48 HOURS...AND THEN MOVING OVER
COLDER WATER AFTERWARDS...WILL PROBABLY PREVENT THIS CYCLONE FROM
REACHING HURRICANE STRENGTH. THE OFFICIAL INTENSITY FORECAST IS
SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN THE SHIPS AND GFDL MODELS.
FORECASTER STEWART/BEVEN
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 04/0400Z 14.8N 99.6W 30 KT
12HR VT 04/1200Z 15.4N 100.0W 35 KT
24HR VT 05/0000Z 16.2N 101.0W 40 KT
36HR VT 05/1200Z 16.9N 102.1W 45 KT
48HR VT 06/0000Z 17.8N 103.7W 50 KT
72HR VT 07/0000Z 19.0N 106.8W 40 KT
96HR VT 08/0000Z 19.5N 110.0W 30 KT...DISSIPATING
120HR VT 09/0000Z 20.0N 114.5W 20 KT...REMNANT LOW
The discussion as always when Stacy Stewart does them are very long and well written.
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Scorpion wrote:What a waste of a storm. Won't go anywhere but the sea and hardly intensify.
No waste at all because there are warnings for portions of the Mexican coast as floodings and mudslides will occur as the system paralells the coast.
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TCDEP4
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E DISCUSSION NUMBER 2
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2 AM PDT MON JUL 04 2005
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E CONTINUES TO BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED THIS
MORNING. SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS A LARGE MASS OF COLD CONVECTION
WITH TOPS TO -85C...WITH RADAR IMAGERY FROM ACAPULCO SHOWING THE
CENTER ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE CONVECTION. SATELLITE INTENSITY
ESTIMATES ARE 30 KT FROM ALL AGENCIES...SO THAT REMAINS THE INITIAL
INTENSITY.
THE INITIAL MOTION IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN 330/6. LARGE-SCALE
MODELS SHOW THE DEPRESSION IS SOUTH OF LOW/MID-LEVEL RIDGE...WHILE
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES THAT A MID/UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH OVER
THE GULF OF MEXICO EXTENDS SOUTH INTO SOUTH CENTRAL MEXICO. THIS
TROUGH IS HELPING TO PRODUCE THE CURRENT NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD
MOTION. THE MODELS SUGGEST THE TROUGH SHOULD WEAKEN OVER THE NEXT
72 HR...WHICH SHOULD CAUSE THE DEPRESSION TO TURN NORTHWESTWARD OR
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD. NHC TRACK GUIDANCE AGREES WITH THIS
SCENARIO...AS WILL THE OFFICIAL FORECAST. THE TRACK FORECAST IS
SHIFTED SOMEWHAT TO THE RIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS PACKAGE BASED ON THE
CURRENT POSITION AND MOTION. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT MOTION TO THE
RIGHT OF THE FORECAST TRACK COULD BRING THE CENTER ONTO THE MEXICAN
COAST AT ALMOST ANY TIME DURING THE NEXT 48 HR.
THE DEPRESSION IS CURRENTLY IN A MODERATE EASTERLY SHEAR
ENVIRONMENT...WITH LARGE-SCALE MODELS FORECASTING THIS TO CONTINUE
FOR THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. THUS...THE CYCLONE SHOULD STRENGTHEN INTO
A TROPICAL STORM. THE BIGGEST SHORT-TERM QUESTION IS HOW FAR WILL
THE CENTER BE FROM SHORE...AS ANY MOTION TO THE RIGHT OF THE
FORECAST TRACK COULD BRING THE CYCLONE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE
MOUNTAINS OF SOUTHERN MEXICO TO SLOW OR STOP DEVELOPMENT. THE
INTENSITY FORECAST IS BASED ON THE PREMISE THAT THE CENTER WILL
STAY FAR ENOUGH OFFSHORE FOR INTENSIFICATION TO OCCUR AND CALLS FOR
55 KT WINDS IN 36 KT. THIS IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAT THE 55-60 KT
FORECAST BY SHIPS AND THE 60-65 KT FORECAST BY THE GFDL. AFTER 72
HR...THE CYCLONE SHOULD WEAKEN OVER COOLER WATER.
FORECASTER BEVEN
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 04/0900Z 15.4N 100.0W 30 KT
12HR VT 04/1800Z 16.0N 100.5W 40 KT
24HR VT 05/0600Z 16.8N 101.5W 45 KT
36HR VT 05/1800Z 17.7N 102.8W 55 KT
48HR VT 06/0600Z 18.5N 104.5W 55 KT
72HR VT 07/0600Z 19.5N 107.5W 55 KT
96HR VT 08/0600Z 20.0N 111.0W 45 KT
120HR VT 09/0600Z 20.5N 116.0W 25 KT...DISSIPATING
TCDEP4
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E DISCUSSION NUMBER 2
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2 AM PDT MON JUL 04 2005
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E CONTINUES TO BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED THIS
MORNING. SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS A LARGE MASS OF COLD CONVECTION
WITH TOPS TO -85C...WITH RADAR IMAGERY FROM ACAPULCO SHOWING THE
CENTER ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE CONVECTION. SATELLITE INTENSITY
ESTIMATES ARE 30 KT FROM ALL AGENCIES...SO THAT REMAINS THE INITIAL
INTENSITY.
THE INITIAL MOTION IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN 330/6. LARGE-SCALE
MODELS SHOW THE DEPRESSION IS SOUTH OF LOW/MID-LEVEL RIDGE...WHILE
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES THAT A MID/UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH OVER
THE GULF OF MEXICO EXTENDS SOUTH INTO SOUTH CENTRAL MEXICO. THIS
TROUGH IS HELPING TO PRODUCE THE CURRENT NORTH-NORTHWESTWARD
MOTION. THE MODELS SUGGEST THE TROUGH SHOULD WEAKEN OVER THE NEXT
72 HR...WHICH SHOULD CAUSE THE DEPRESSION TO TURN NORTHWESTWARD OR
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD. NHC TRACK GUIDANCE AGREES WITH THIS
SCENARIO...AS WILL THE OFFICIAL FORECAST. THE TRACK FORECAST IS
SHIFTED SOMEWHAT TO THE RIGHT OF THE PREVIOUS PACKAGE BASED ON THE
CURRENT POSITION AND MOTION. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT MOTION TO THE
RIGHT OF THE FORECAST TRACK COULD BRING THE CENTER ONTO THE MEXICAN
COAST AT ALMOST ANY TIME DURING THE NEXT 48 HR.
THE DEPRESSION IS CURRENTLY IN A MODERATE EASTERLY SHEAR
ENVIRONMENT...WITH LARGE-SCALE MODELS FORECASTING THIS TO CONTINUE
FOR THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. THUS...THE CYCLONE SHOULD STRENGTHEN INTO
A TROPICAL STORM. THE BIGGEST SHORT-TERM QUESTION IS HOW FAR WILL
THE CENTER BE FROM SHORE...AS ANY MOTION TO THE RIGHT OF THE
FORECAST TRACK COULD BRING THE CYCLONE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE
MOUNTAINS OF SOUTHERN MEXICO TO SLOW OR STOP DEVELOPMENT. THE
INTENSITY FORECAST IS BASED ON THE PREMISE THAT THE CENTER WILL
STAY FAR ENOUGH OFFSHORE FOR INTENSIFICATION TO OCCUR AND CALLS FOR
55 KT WINDS IN 36 KT. THIS IS SLIGHTLY LESS THAT THE 55-60 KT
FORECAST BY SHIPS AND THE 60-65 KT FORECAST BY THE GFDL. AFTER 72
HR...THE CYCLONE SHOULD WEAKEN OVER COOLER WATER.
FORECASTER BEVEN
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INITIAL 04/0900Z 15.4N 100.0W 30 KT
12HR VT 04/1800Z 16.0N 100.5W 40 KT
24HR VT 05/0600Z 16.8N 101.5W 45 KT
36HR VT 05/1800Z 17.7N 102.8W 55 KT
48HR VT 06/0600Z 18.5N 104.5W 55 KT
72HR VT 07/0600Z 19.5N 107.5W 55 KT
96HR VT 08/0600Z 20.0N 111.0W 45 KT
120HR VT 09/0600Z 20.5N 116.0W 25 KT...DISSIPATING
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WTPZ34 KNHC 041154
TCPEP4
BULLETIN
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 2A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM PDT MON JUL 04 2005
...TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E SPREADING HEAVY RAINS ALONG THE COAST
OF MEXICO NEAR ACAPULCO...
A TROPICAL STORM WARNING CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE
SOUTH-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO FROM ACAPULCO WESTWARD TO
ZIHUATANEJO.
A TROPICAL STORM WATCH CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE
SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM WEST OF ZIHUATANEJO WESTWARD TO
PUNTA SAN TELMO.
WATCHES MAY BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE MEXICAN COAST WEST OF
PUNTA SAN TELMO LATER TODAY.
FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.
AT 5 AM PDT...1200Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E WAS
ESTIMATED NEAR LATITUDE 15.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 100.0 WEST OR ABOUT
75 MILES...120 KM...SOUTH OF ACAPULCO MEXICO.
THE DEPRESSION IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH
...11 KM/HR. A GRADUAL TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING
THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THIS MOTION COULD BRING THE CENTER NEAR THE
COAST OF MEXICO IN THE WARNING AREA LATER TODAY OR TONIGHT.
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 35 MPH... 55 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS...AND THE DEPRESSION COULD STRENGTHEN INTO A TROPICAL STORM
LATER TODAY.
ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1007 MB...29.74 INCHES.
LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL OF 3 TO 5 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE ALONG THE
SOUTH-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO FROM PUNTA MALDONADO WESTWARD TO
ZIHUATANEJO.
REPEATING THE 5 AM PDT POSITION...15.7 N...100.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 35
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1007 MB.
THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
8 AM PDT.
FORECASTER PASCH
It looks like we will see dora later today.
TCPEP4
BULLETIN
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 2A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM PDT MON JUL 04 2005
...TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E SPREADING HEAVY RAINS ALONG THE COAST
OF MEXICO NEAR ACAPULCO...
A TROPICAL STORM WARNING CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE
SOUTH-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO FROM ACAPULCO WESTWARD TO
ZIHUATANEJO.
A TROPICAL STORM WATCH CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE
SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM WEST OF ZIHUATANEJO WESTWARD TO
PUNTA SAN TELMO.
WATCHES MAY BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE MEXICAN COAST WEST OF
PUNTA SAN TELMO LATER TODAY.
FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.
AT 5 AM PDT...1200Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E WAS
ESTIMATED NEAR LATITUDE 15.7 NORTH...LONGITUDE 100.0 WEST OR ABOUT
75 MILES...120 KM...SOUTH OF ACAPULCO MEXICO.
THE DEPRESSION IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH
...11 KM/HR. A GRADUAL TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING
THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THIS MOTION COULD BRING THE CENTER NEAR THE
COAST OF MEXICO IN THE WARNING AREA LATER TODAY OR TONIGHT.
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 35 MPH... 55 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS...AND THE DEPRESSION COULD STRENGTHEN INTO A TROPICAL STORM
LATER TODAY.
ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1007 MB...29.74 INCHES.
LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL OF 3 TO 5 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE ALONG THE
SOUTH-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO FROM PUNTA MALDONADO WESTWARD TO
ZIHUATANEJO.
REPEATING THE 5 AM PDT POSITION...15.7 N...100.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS... 35
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1007 MB.
THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
8 AM PDT.
FORECASTER PASCH
It looks like we will see dora later today.
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04/1145 UTC 15.8N 100.5W T2.5/2.5 04E -- East Pacific Ocean
Tropical storm Dora later today.
Tropical storm Dora later today.
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BULLETIN
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E ADVISORY NUMBER 3
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
8 AM PDT MON JUL 04 2005
...DEPRESSION CENTER RELOCATED A LITTLE TO THE EAST...HEAVY RAINS
CONTINUE ALONG COAST OF MEXICO...
A TROPICAL STORM WARNING CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE
SOUTH-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO FROM ACAPULCO WESTWARD TO
ZIHUATANEJO.
A TROPICAL STORM WATCH CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE
SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM WEST OF ZIHUATANEJO WESTWARD TO
PUNTA SEL TELMO.
WATCHES MAY BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE MEXICAN COAST WEST OF
PUNTA SEL TELMO LATER TODAY.
FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.
AT 8 AM PDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION
FOUR-E WAS RELOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 15.9 NORTH...
LONGITUDE 99.4 WEST OR ABOUT 75 MILES... 125 KM...
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF ACAPULCO MEXICO.
THE DEPRESSION IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH
...11 KM/HR. A GRADUAL TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING
THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THIS MOTION COULD BRING THE CENTER VERY NEAR OR
ON THE MEXICAN COAST IN THE WARNING AREA LATER TODAY OR TONIGHT.
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 35 MPH...55 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...AND THE
DEPRESSION COULD BECOME A TROPICAL STORM LATER TODAY.
ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1008 MB...29.77 INCHES.
RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE ALONG THE
SOUTH-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO FROM ACAPULCO TO ZIHUATANEJO WITH
ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 10 INCHES POSSIBLE OVER MOUNTAINOUS
TERRAIN. THESE RAINS COULD PRODUCE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS
AND MUD SLIDES.
REPEATING THE 8 AM PDT POSITION...15.9 N...99.4 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 35 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1008 MB.
AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 11 AM PDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY
AT 2 PM PDT.
FORECASTER ROBERTS/PASCH
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FOUR-E ADVISORY NUMBER 3
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
8 AM PDT MON JUL 04 2005
...DEPRESSION CENTER RELOCATED A LITTLE TO THE EAST...HEAVY RAINS
CONTINUE ALONG COAST OF MEXICO...
A TROPICAL STORM WARNING CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE
SOUTH-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO FROM ACAPULCO WESTWARD TO
ZIHUATANEJO.
A TROPICAL STORM WATCH CONTINUES IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE
SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF MEXICO FROM WEST OF ZIHUATANEJO WESTWARD TO
PUNTA SEL TELMO.
WATCHES MAY BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE MEXICAN COAST WEST OF
PUNTA SEL TELMO LATER TODAY.
FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.
AT 8 AM PDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION
FOUR-E WAS RELOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 15.9 NORTH...
LONGITUDE 99.4 WEST OR ABOUT 75 MILES... 125 KM...
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF ACAPULCO MEXICO.
THE DEPRESSION IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH
...11 KM/HR. A GRADUAL TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED DURING
THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THIS MOTION COULD BRING THE CENTER VERY NEAR OR
ON THE MEXICAN COAST IN THE WARNING AREA LATER TODAY OR TONIGHT.
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 35 MPH...55 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...AND THE
DEPRESSION COULD BECOME A TROPICAL STORM LATER TODAY.
ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1008 MB...29.77 INCHES.
RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE ALONG THE
SOUTH-CENTRAL COAST OF MEXICO FROM ACAPULCO TO ZIHUATANEJO WITH
ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 10 INCHES POSSIBLE OVER MOUNTAINOUS
TERRAIN. THESE RAINS COULD PRODUCE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS
AND MUD SLIDES.
REPEATING THE 8 AM PDT POSITION...15.9 N...99.4 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 7 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 35 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1008 MB.
AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 11 AM PDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY
AT 2 PM PDT.
FORECASTER ROBERTS/PASCH
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