MM5FSU Model has Major Hurricane Dennis up FL West Coast

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MM5FSU Model has Major Hurricane Dennis up FL West Coast

#1 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:58 pm

This appears to be an outlier given the other models but I don't like this one bit. FL better count on that ridge holding :eek:

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/mm5fsutc2.cgi?time=2005070500&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=120hr
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#2 Postby BonesXL » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:00 pm

Wow, things could get interesting
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#3 Postby dixiebreeze » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:01 pm

MERCY :eek: :eek:
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#4 Postby chris_fit » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:01 pm

Yea That's right over my mom's house.
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#5 Postby Brent » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:02 pm

That looks fun. :eek:
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#6 Postby Rainband » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:03 pm

the MM5 bombed Cindy..if I remember correctly so......
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#7 Postby sweetpea » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:03 pm

Why does this model show something entirely different than all the others? Is the model not used in the charts?
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#8 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:04 pm

Why does this model show something entirely different than all the others? Is the model not used in the charts?


I'm wondering the same thing.
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#9 Postby Scorpion » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:04 pm

The ridge that saves us from this can potentially bring about great problems for us come August.
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#10 Postby JPmia » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:05 pm

Look at the time of that model run...it is from midnight last night. I bet it will change tonight. Many of the other models have been updated since then and show a trend west of that. We shall see.
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#11 Postby ericinmia » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:05 pm

The mm5 can be run in different ways, the way that fsu is running it tends to cause storms to OverIntensify...

I am tired of arguing with people so i wasn't going to post this, but to supplement boca_chris' post.

Can any of the pro mets explain the descrepancies on how the models are handling the ridge. The Bermuda High for example in the gfs and cmc is pretty much the same, however... its stronger and further west in the cmc but the cmc brings dennis much closer to florida's west coast around 72 hours. But with the gfs the high is weaker and further displaced to the east than in the cmc, but the Dennis heads farther west. Going by shear physics here why does/did the gfs portray Dennis heading wnw under the influence of NO high pressure ridge.

I was simply wonder about this incongruity that i noticed earlier on, and was wondering if anyone had looked at the forcasted positions of the ridge in comparison frame by frame with other models.
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#12 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:05 pm

absolutely. August-Sept will be interesting when the CV season gets into full swing.
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#13 Postby MetroMike » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:26 pm

Well evidentally that model is picking up on something that the other models aren't showing. Could be a trend or just a quirk.
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#14 Postby Josephine96 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:30 pm

Now that would definitely be interesting..

Are you listening TAMPA BAY? :eek:

LOL sorry for the sarcasm.. it just felt right at the time..
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#15 Postby Ixolib » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:31 pm

Scorpion wrote:The ridge that saves us from this can potentially bring about great problems for us come August.


Good point...
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#16 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:40 pm

Now that would definitely be interesting..

Are you listening TAMPA BAY?

LOL sorry for the sarcasm.. it just felt right at the time..


I hope so because apparently the MM5 model is factoring in a strong Cindy which weakens the ridge to allow Dennis to move more NW...that is a DEFINITE scenario for all of you along the west coast of FL :eek:
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#17 Postby Josephine96 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:42 pm

Now if that ridge breaks.. things could get interesting.. I'm hoping that wherever Dennis ends up.. It is just a big ole' rainmaker with not much winds if possible..
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#18 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:53 pm

Why do I get the feeling that Charley is sending Dennis to finish off his unfinished work from last year along the west coast of FL.... :eek:
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#19 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:58 pm

for the 100th time

the FSU MM5 is run at too low of a resolution. MM5 needs to be run much higher, more like under 20km (tomorrow, with Dennis being farther to the west, I can start using 15km instead of 18

I keep meaning a low resolution, not high
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#20 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:03 pm

for the 100th time

the FSU MM5 is run at too high of a resolution. MM5 needs to be run much higher, more like under 20km (tomorrow, with Dennis being farther to the west, I can start using 15km instead of 18


Thanks that would explain it.
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