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#6281 Postby TT-SEA » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:02 am

2 weeks??

It was in the 80's in most places just last Monday. :D
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#6282 Postby W13 » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:36 pm

Well, most of the models have finally agreed that this weekend will feature little, if no rain at all. Starting Monday (4th of July) the temperatures start to climb as well. Here is what the NWS has for my area on the 4th of July:

Independence Day...Partly cloudy. Highs in the mid 70s to lower 80s. Lows in the upper 40s to mid 50s.

It sure looks like we will have another pleasent 4th of July, which has been the case for the last several years. It seems as if just when they start saying the 4th of July is going to be a wash out and how Summer really doesn't start around here until after the 4th of July, the models start to flip around and come back to bite the forecasters who said that in the face.

Anyways, I pretty nice weekend and next week looks to be in store. Here are some predicted high temperatures I have put together for the 4th of July:

Kent - 79F (Mostly Sunny Skies)
Bellevue - 81F (Mostly Sunny Skies)
Seattle - 77F (Mostly Sunny Skies)
North Bend - 78F (Partly Sunny Skies)
Mount Vernon - 71F (Partly Sunny Skies)

Note: These temperatures and conditions are for the afternoon hours only.
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#6283 Postby AnthonyC » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:05 pm

Never cleared up here in Mukilteo...high temperature of 68F with mostly cloudy conditions.

This weekend looks pretty bland...cloudy and a little cool. Not too much precipitation aside from a little mist, but definitely not summer-like weather.

And just when I thought things were really going to turn around for next week, models still insist on a zonal flow...but hopefully the weather will be better than the past few weeks. If we could just get rid of these stubborn low clouds...

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#6284 Postby Perturbance » Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:41 pm

Interesting comment in the 9 am Seattle NWS discussion:

TOOL CONTINUES TO SHOW LONG WAVE RIDGING AT 150W WEAKENING TODAY AND TROUGHING DEVELOPING AT THAT LOCATION MON ONWARD. THIS READJUSTMENT OF THE HEMISPHERIC PATTERN TYPICALLY RESULTS IN TROUGHING IN THE PAC NW BEING REPLACED BY SW FLOW AND HIGHER 500 MB HEIGHTS AS THE FOUR CORNERS HIGH EXPANDS NWD INTO THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST. THE GLOBAL MODELS ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH FCST DETAILS IN THE TRANSITION WITH ENSEMBLES SHOWING INCREASING DIVERGENCE. SOLUTIONS OVER THE PAST 18 HRS THRU 06Z THIS MORNING ARE NOW MORE PESSIMISTIC FOR THE NEXT WEAK
{sic} AS SHORT WAVE TROUGHS EMBEDDED IN THE W/SW FLOW CLIP WA. SOLUTIONS FOR THE PREVIOUS 2 DAYS WERE WARMER AND DRYER.

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#6285 Postby TT-SEA » Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:50 pm

The weather picked the perfect weekend to turn BEAUTIFUL.

77 degrees at my house under glorious sunshine all day.
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#6286 Postby AnthonyC » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:44 pm

Where's the deluge we were suppose to have today? LOL!

Today was an awesome day...high temperature of 76F with mostly sunny conditions. Nicest day in a long time! Tomorrow looks like a carbon-copy...maybe a few more high clouds as a weak system pushes into British Columbia.

Can we even trust the models? I'm not going to look at them for awhile...esp. the GFS. That model hasn't been accurate in a long time...I guess that wet bias is really coming into play.

Have an awesome 4th of July!! And be safe!

Anthony
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#6287 Postby cswitwer » Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:44 pm

Everybody must be outdoors enjoying this sunshine! Not a single post yet today!

Have a great fourth!

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#6288 Postby TT-SEA » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:44 pm

W13 - You nailed that forecast for today. Just about perfect.
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#6289 Postby TT-SEA » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:41 am

The latest GFS is incredibly wet for the next week.

Almost unheard of in July... we might be flirting with record rainfall here.
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#6290 Postby AnthonyC » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:52 am

Dude, you really think we can trust the GFS? It hasn't been correct all summer...what makes you trust it now? Or is that sarcasm in your last post?

Yesterday was an AWESOME day...if only every summer day was like that...81F with sunny conditions. This morning is starting nice, but increasing high clouds are already making a comeback.

Tonight and tomorrow morning look fairly wet for the beginning of July. I'll make a prediction: SeaTac will receive .16 inch of rain from this next system.

I haven't looked at the latest models because I can't trust them. I thought next week was suppose to improve?!

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#6291 Postby TT-SEA » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:59 am

I think we may see much more rain than that. This is a pretty well-defined front for any time of the year. And the next system looks even wetter.

It is true that the GFS has been mostly crap... but within 144 hours its pretty reliable.

I have a feeling about this week. This is different than the weak fronts and meandering upper lows of June.

This looks very active to me... and abnormal for July.

See... I can say things are strange!! Like I said... June was not that strange... July is starting out that way though.
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#6292 Postby W13 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:12 pm

We just might see some isolated thunderstorms today, and I wouldn't be surprised if some of these were severe. Keep an eye out ... :wink:

Also, I think some areas today will recieve 1-2" of rain from this system. Again, this will be in ISOLATED areas.
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July 12th as start of summer?

#6293 Postby Perturbance » Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:40 pm

Does anyone here know what the significance of July 12th is with respect to summer? Seattle NWS seems to be focused on that date.

July 4th AFD:

LONG TERM...A WEAKER SYSTEM IS DUE FRI NIGHT. THIS ONE WILL BE FIGHTING HIGH HEIGHTS BUT SEE NO REASON TO COMPLETELY DISCOUNT IT. IN COORDINATION WITH OTHER OFFICES WILL GO WITH CHANCE POPS. ANOTHER IMPULSE SUN NIGHT. AT TAIL END OF GFS MODEL HEIGHTS REALLY SHOOT UP...JUST IN TIME FOR BEGINNING OF SUMMER ON JULY 12. BURKE

This afternoon's AFD:

.LONG TERM...SHOWERY THROUGH THE WEEKEND...WITH SOME SUNNY PERIODS...AS BROAD UPPER TROUGH MAKES ITS WAY THROUGH THE AREA. PROGRESSIVE RUNS OF GFS KEEP DAMPENING OUT THE RIDGING NEXT WEEK. THIS COULD VERY WELL DELAY THE START OF SUMMER TO SOME TIME BEYOND JULY 12. BURKE

I thought summer started on June 21st. I wonder if they're relating to statistics/climatology? :?:
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#6294 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:31 am

We had 1.05 inches of rain at my house during the night.

The school site in North Bend had about .80 but we are higher. Still a very rainy night.

Sea-Tac came in with .36 which is less than I had thought... but still good for July.


Oh... I believe they say July 12th because it is statistically the driest day of the year in Seattle.
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#6295 Postby AnthonyC » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:28 am

Well, off to Salt Lake City today...I'll be there until July 13. Forecast high for SLC today? 98F...101F tomorrow. Just the way I like it!

We had very little rainfall with the last front...I know SeaTac had 0.35 inch of rain, but I would say Mukilteo saw maybe 0.1 inch of rain at the most. Very disappointed...the front died as it moved inland. Next system on satellite looks a little more impressive, but should weaken as it plows into the high pressure offshore.

I will also be in Hawaii from July 18-26.

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#6296 Postby Perturbance » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:52 am

Thanks for the info TT. It definitely looks like the start of real summer weather here next week - offshore flow and temps in the low 90s. Thank goodness for air conditioning!
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#6297 Postby TT-SEA » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:58 am

Have fun Anthony.

You can have that 100-degree weather in SLC. That would suck. It will probably be smoggy there as well.

The last front was pretty amazing out here... 1.30 inches of rain at our house. I think you got rain-shadowed with southwest flow. That favors places from Sea-Tac to Bellevue eastward.

I expect we will get another inch tomorrow making for a very wet week for July.
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#6298 Postby TT-SEA » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:02 am

Also... I am NOT seeing offshore flow and 90's next week.

Looks like we will still have some type of trough. Still... lots of sun and highs in the 70's and low 80's at times.
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#6299 Postby R-Dub » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:50 pm

Today felt like November 8th! South wind blowing, rain, and very cool for this time of the year. Summer???? What summer????
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#6300 Postby TT-SEA » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:28 am

Today was pretty cold for July.

But on the plus side... we got another .75 today and that makes the weekly rainfall total a very wet 2.15 inches at our house. Impressive for July.

If its going to be cloudy and cool... it might as well rain.

Sea-Tac has just about reached the normal rainfall for the entire month of July!! They are at .76 since Tuesday evening.

I knew this pattern was more impressive than the last few systems at the end of June.
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