Eyewall looks torn open!

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Eyewall looks torn open!

#1 Postby ericinmia » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:49 pm

It appears the storm's eye was torn open after crossing part of cuba.

http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseasthurrwv.html

Create a loop and zoom in.....

to this image:

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#2 Postby jkt21787 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:50 pm

I'm not surprised by this. Maybe this is a little fast though. A slow weakening trend overall will surely commence soon if not already.
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#3 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:51 pm

It should get back together over water tonight.

Thats what those mountains did to it.
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#4 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:51 pm

one not so good sign though


look how circular that outflow is becoming. Shear appears to have also went the way of the SAL in the GOM, on vacation
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#5 Postby jkt21787 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:51 pm

gkrangers wrote:It should get back together over water tonight.

Thats what those mountains did to it.

And thats just crossing the tip (if the mountains really did that...not sure)
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Re: Eyewall looks torn open!

#6 Postby rtd2 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:52 pm

ericinmia wrote:It appears the storm's eye was torn open after crossing part of cuba.

http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseasthurrwv.html

Create a loop and zoom in.....

to this image:

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Nice Call! Knocked a good Hole in the core! Maybe back to cat 3 ,,,Shouldnt Recover until its in open water in GOMEX...
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#7 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:52 pm

jkt21787 wrote:
gkrangers wrote:It should get back together over water tonight.

Thats what those mountains did to it.

And thats just crossing the tip (if the mountains really did that...not sure)
Well supposedly that little peninsula is very mountainous.
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#8 Postby jkt21787 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:53 pm

gkrangers wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:
gkrangers wrote:It should get back together over water tonight.

Thats what those mountains did to it.

And thats just crossing the tip (if the mountains really did that...not sure)
Well supposedly that little peninsula is very mountainous.

If thats the case then, Dennis could really be torn apart in the mainland (still of course depending on its exact track there)
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#9 Postby ALhurricane » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:54 pm

I wouldn't write it off just yet before crossing cuba again. it already looks like it is try to regorganize it's west side, plus it still looks intact on radar.
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#10 Postby ericinmia » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:56 pm

ALhurricane wrote:I wouldn't write it off just yet before crossing cuba again. it already looks like it is try to regorganize it's west side, plus it still looks intact on radar.


How quick does the radar update? It might not show the incident yet?
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#11 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:59 pm

jkt21787 wrote:
gkrangers wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:
gkrangers wrote:It should get back together over water tonight.

Thats what those mountains did to it.

And thats just crossing the tip (if the mountains really did that...not sure)
Well supposedly that little peninsula is very mountainous.

If thats the case then, Dennis could really be torn apart in the mainland (still of course depending on its exact track there)
The bottomline is Dennis is an extremely healthy hurricane...no dry air..no shear..it will survive Cuba as a hurricane. Then its up to the gulf to see if it stays "weak" as a Cat 2...or if it deepens into a 3/4 again.

Dennis probably saw his heyday right before he impacted that peninsula.
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#12 Postby Innotech » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:59 pm

the storm didnt really impact hte high mountains htat much on Granma. It went a bit west of them, but seems to have delivered a huge punch to the town of Pilon. Im guessing its oging though another cycle.
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#13 Postby LSU2001 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:07 am

one of the mets on radio ncwx was saying right at the end of the broadcast that the eye may be reforming farther south. did anyone else here that comment and if so what do you think of it.
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#14 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:10 am

an eye does not reform. That is physically impossible. This is not a diffuse center
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#15 Postby gkrangers » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:10 am

Derek Ortt wrote:an eye does not reform. That is physically impossible. This is not a diffuse center
^^ what he said.
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#16 Postby banshee » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:12 am

Derek can you explain that please. I read here last season about a 'new eye'. If it doesnt reform what does it do?
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#17 Postby Hurricane Cheese » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:13 am

For comparison sake, here's the IR imagery that is linked from the NHC site...

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Still looks quite impressive to me on there, and with the center back over those very very warm waters just south of Cuba, I would be inclined that this may be more of an ERC than interaction with mountains. I mean, it barely covered much land at all with that clip of the pennisula.

The deep reds also appear to be wrapping back around the center. It will be interesting to see what Dennis looks like in about 4 hours or so. And as Derek stated, the outflow certainly looks impressive.

Right now, I believe it's way too premature, and possibly flat out inaccurate, to say he's been "torn apart" at all by his brief land interaction.
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#18 Postby wayoutfront » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:14 am

Image

doesn't look bad to me


added.... sorry for the duplicating the image, guess we were looking at the same time
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#19 Postby ericinmia » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:15 am

banshee wrote:Derek can you explain that please. I read here last season about a 'new eye'. If it doesnt reform what does it do?


Dereck is saying a new eye can't just pop up somewhere else.

Eye wall replacement cycles are when an outer eye wall forms and then the inner wall collapses. This is what is occuring when people mention that the eye is new, or what not.

Since the eye is the center of circulation it can't move to a new spot and pop up there instead.
-Eric

Watch a good water vapor loop of the storm going over the land, it rips open right as its emerging back over water.
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#20 Postby gkrangers » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:15 am

banshee wrote:Derek can you explain that please. I read here last season about a 'new eye'. If it doesnt reform what does it do?
I think its just that its impossible for the low level circulation to reform elsewhere. The eye can fill in, but the circulation center remains the same.
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