Historical Question

#1 Postby **dgparent** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:55 am

What is the strongest hurricane to make landfall in the US this early in the year ?

#2 Postby **SeaBrz_FL** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:58 am

ABC News reported earlier that a Cat 4 (or 5) has never hit the U.S. before August.

#3 Postby **ericinmia** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:02 am

SeaBrz_FL wrote:ABC News reported earlier that a Cat 4 (or 5) has never hit the U.S. before August.

There never even had been a cat4 before august...

Website · #4 Postby **Brent** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:02 am

Only 3 Major hurricanes have hit the U.S. in July... I'm presuming Cat 3's. I know no Cat 5's have hit this early.

#5 Postby **Hurricanehink** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:10 am

SeaBrz_FL wrote:ABC News reported earlier that a Cat 4 (or 5) has never hit the U.S. before August.

ABC is wrong. Hurricane Audrey hit Texas as a Category 4 in June of 1957. I don't think any this strong in July, though...

clfenwi · #6 Postby **clfenwi** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:14 am

Glancing through the archives during the lull between recon flights, it looked like Audrey was the strongest storm to form before August. Her pressure was lowest pressure was 946 milllibars...

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #7 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:15 am

Dennis is now the most powerful hurricane to form an July!!!

Website · #8 Postby **Brent** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:17 am

clfenwi wrote:Glancing through the archives during the lull between recon flights, it looked like Audrey was the strongest storm to form before August. Her pressure was lowest pressure was 946 milllibars...

So Dennis takes that record with 938 mb... now stronger than Charley, so that makes it the strongest hurricane this early in the season before Camille???

clfenwi · #9 Postby **clfenwi** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:27 am

Brent wrote:
clfenwi wrote:Glancing through the archives during the lull between recon flights, it looked like Audrey was the strongest storm to form before August. Her pressure was lowest pressure was 946 milllibars...

So Dennis takes that record with 938 mb... now stronger than Charley, so that makes it the strongest hurricane this early in the season before Camille???

Working on that now...
While you wait, chew on this ....

the last time a pressure of 938 or lower was seen before September was 1996.

#10 Postby **dgparent** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:28 am

Thank for all the replies ! I figured this was a oddity, just did not know how much of one !

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #11 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:29 am

This is as rare as the south Atlantic hurricane.

#12 Postby **LSU2001** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:30 am

UMMM Audrey hit Cameron La. and killed over 500 due to flooding. I am sure Texas had effects too as Cameron is close to the border but Cameron is the official landfall spot.
TIm

#13 Postby **LSU2001** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:31 am

Keep in mind that we really don't know how rare or how much of an oddity this really is because our records only go back 150 years or so.
TIm

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #14 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:31 am

Boy is that the truth ISU.

clfenwi · #15 Postby **clfenwi** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:33 am

Going back through 25 years... the earliest a storm has reached 938 millibars or lower was 1980 when Allen plunged through that mark on August 4. I'll let someone else either verify that Allen was the earliest or that there was one earlier...

cowboy72 · #16 Postby **cowboy72** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:35 am

Hurricanehink wrote:
SeaBrz_FL wrote:ABC News reported earlier that a Cat 4 (or 5) has never hit the U.S. before August.

ABC is wrong. Hurricane Audrey hit Texas as a Category 4 in June of 1957. I don't think any this strong in July, though...

It actually hit Cameron, Louisiana which is on the Texas border. I survived it. Over 500 dead and missing. The population of Cameron Parish (County) was a little over 5,000 at the time.

sprink52 · #17 Postby **sprink52** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:39 am

Think about all of those Spanish Galleons that were sunk by hurricanes in the 1500's. Those guys thought that since the seas were relatively calmer during the summer as opposed to the winter that they had a better chance of safe passage. Talk about Russian Roulette!! Think about one of those fleets headed back to Spain from Pensacola or Havana at this time 400 years ago. That is why the coast of Florida parts of the Caribbean are littered with old sunken Spanish gold fleets. 8-)

#18 Postby **dgparent** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:43 am

Well the captains of those ships should of traded in some of the gold they were carrying for a good wireless internet connection and they would of known not to sail during a hurricane, cheapskates got what they deserved. After all they plundered all the gold anyway.

#19 Postby **SeaBrz_FL** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:45 am

Hurricanehink wrote:ABC is wrong. Hurricane Audrey hit Texas as a Category 4 in June of 1957. I don't think any this strong in July, though...

You are right, Hurricanehink! I re-reviewed and ABC did say "Never a US Sev 4 in July ..." and I incorrectly assumed they meant July or earlier. Sorry for the bad info.

:splat:

sprink52 · #20 Postby **sprink52** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:49 am

Yup, those old Spanish Conquistador bubbas could have really hooked up with some Doppler Radar!! :lol:

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