TD 5 becoming better organized

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#61 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:05 pm

gkrangers wrote:Just a burst of deep convection, a strong thunderstorm.


True, just a burst of convection, but, before this storm was nothing more than a low pressure system its convective areas were rather weak and scattered, now, since it was upgraded to depression the system has exhibit continual convection and that's very necessary for future development.
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#62 Postby gunner1551 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:05 pm

OK thanks what causes those?
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#63 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:08 pm

QUESTION FOR THE PRO'S:

What will happen to TD 5 over the next 24 hours?
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#64 Postby jpigott » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:12 pm

what's up with that convective blow up on the east side of TD5
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#65 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:13 pm

jpigott wrote:what's up with that convective blow up on the east side of TD5


Convective burst!
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#66 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:59 pm

The system seems to be getting better organized with a new convective burst and looks to be growing! See the loops.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#67 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:03 pm

Also it appears to have picked some momentum in the speed.
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#68 Postby zeusman » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:32 pm

Keep an eye on the intensification of the ridge just to the west on the loop. I am not sure the 12z run captured this rapid intensification as seen in the loop. If this is the case look for tonights 00z and tomorrows 12Z runs to show a more southerly track
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#69 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:42 pm

If the reason why they don't upgrade this storm is because they can't locate a true center, they may not upgrade untill 11am tomorrow, because we won't get visible images till then.
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#70 Postby jabber » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:57 pm

It appears to me to be looking pretty good right now with the cold cloud tops expanding. Would not the center be under these tops? If so it appears the center is north of the plotted position at this time. I am sure I am wrong... but there could be a first.
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#71 Postby jabber » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:04 pm

Also... TD5 does not appear to be moving due west check this view out:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/SAT_ATL/anim8ir.html
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#72 Postby Swimdude » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:07 pm

jabber wrote:Also... TD5 does not appear to be moving due west check this view out:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/SAT_ATL/anim8ir.html


I'm pretty sure it's not...
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#73 Postby mvtrucking » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:10 pm

jabber wrote:Also... TD5 does not appear to be moving due west check this view out:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/SAT_ATL/anim8ir.html


Its hard for me to see with that link( rookie here). It looks almost WNW?
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either WNW or reorganizing a bit more N

#74 Postby Weatherboy1 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:17 pm

My best guess is that either the entire system is moving a bit more WNW OR it's reoganizing with a center farther to the N. Darn IR imagery isn't that good for fixing center positions on developing systems that don't have an obvious eye, CDO, etc.

My biggest concern at this early stage -- and so much can change, it's really just conjecture -- is that the "start" point for this system could end up being in the 11.5N/12N range (for example, if a center re-org leaves the LLC that far N)

IF that turns out to be the case, then you have to shift the entire forecast track by the NHC 1-2 degrees north. And IF you do that, you end up with a system that likely crosses extremely close to or over PR AND misses the bulk of the island of Hispanola, bypassing it to the north. Needless to say, that also increases the threat to the Keys or South FL.

Again, this is all educated guesswork. Five could just as easily take a more southerly track into the Gulf a la Dennis or crash through the islands like Georges in 1998. But what I do NOT see happening is a recurve ... I strongly expect this storm to eventually be somebody's problem in the Gulf (it's only a question of how it gets there at this point)

Note: these are all my opinions, not an official forecast.

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#75 Postby gunner1551 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:32 pm

I was wondering what causes the convection to burst up like that. Convection is a sign of intensication. SO that means this thing is intensifying and could it possibly reach hurricane status by the 11 pm advisory?? Or will they wait untill tomorrow to locate a true eye and get a pressure reading??
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no.

#76 Postby LilNoles2005 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:36 pm

gunner1551 wrote:I was wondering what causes the convection to burst up like that. Convection is a sign of intensication. SO that means this thing is intensifying and could it possibly reach hurricane status by the 11 pm advisory?? Or will they wait untill tomorrow to locate a true eye and get a pressure reading??



Hurricane status at 11? No way in hades.

Tropical Storm status? Yes.
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#77 Postby gkrangers » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:38 pm

gunner1551 wrote:I was wondering what causes the convection to burst up like that. Convection is a sign of intensication. SO that means this thing is intensifying and could it possibly reach hurricane status by the 11 pm advisory?? Or will they wait untill tomorrow to locate a true eye and get a pressure reading??
Forecaster Stewart is in a canoe rowing his way to the center of TD5/TS Emily with a barometer in hand.
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#78 Postby kevin » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:40 pm

My hurricane hunter sub is such a great idea. I'm waiting for the government to contact me.
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#79 Postby Snowluver » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:41 pm

I am very surprised this isn't a T.S. yet. ARe the NHC smoking something :lol:
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#80 Postby gkrangers » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:42 pm

Snowluver wrote:I am very surprised this isn't a T.S. yet. ARe the NHC smoking something :lol:
It's going to be upgraded at the 11PM advisory.

Whats with the NHC bashing?
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