Chance of seeing Tropical Storm/Hurricane Alpha this year.

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What do you think the chances of seeing Tropical Storm/Hurricane Alpha are this year?

Poll ended at Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:12 pm

0-25%
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70%
26-50%
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10%
51-75%
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8%
76-100%
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Chance of seeing Tropical Storm/Hurricane Alpha this year.

#1 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:12 pm

PLEASE DO NOT VOTE IN THIS POLL! POLL IS CLOSED! VALID DATE OCTOBER 22, 2005

For those of you not familiar with this.....I am asking for your opinion on the hurricane season going beyond 21 storms.....which in that case, the Greek Alphabet is used (Alpha, Beta, Gamma,...)

For this to happen:

-Must have an early start to season, and active June/July.
-Activeness must continue through August-September
-October and November must show storms as well, and not completely die off like in some previous years.

What do you think?
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#2 Postby OtherHD » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:14 pm

0-25%...although much closer to 0% :wink:
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#3 Postby Scorpion » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:15 pm

I dont give it much chance. I doubt the season can keep going and going. Most likely there will be a lull in July followed by a big August and big September.
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#4 Postby feederband » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:30 pm

June and were talking Alpha storm %. I tell you if the season turns out that way there won't be much left standing for next years season to beat up.....
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#5 Postby Andrew92 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:32 pm

Nuh-uh.
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#6 Postby Swimdude » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:12 am

Highly unlikely.
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#7 Postby dhweather » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:20 pm

I'd put the chances at about 1%
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#8 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:25 pm

I will give it about 1% of that happening since I can't rule out that possibility. But we have to remember that usually the Atlantic Ocean tries to balnce out an active period with inactive periods, like 2 weeks of activity and then 1 or 2 weeks of no or minimal activity. I really don't see it in the future, I just see a moderate over average season with more or less 15 storms, by the way, we got 2 already!
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#9 Postby vacanechaser » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:44 pm

ZZeerrooo.. 0000


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#10 Postby *StOrmsPr* » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:55 pm

i don't know, i think is highly unlikely, but then again who would have thought of 1933 having 21 TS if we were in 1933 instead of 2005 ??
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#11 Postby hurricanefreak1988 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:56 pm

Oh man. I'm remembering this thread come late November. You never know. :)
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#12 Postby SouthernWx » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:25 pm

While of course the possibility is never very high of a record active Atlantic hurricane season, this season I wouldn't rule it out....not with the overall parameters and sst's so unusually warm.

One must remember....in that record breaking hurricane season of 1933 (when 21 named storms occurred), how many others occurred then which were missed?? This was during the heart of the Great Depression, there was no satellite data, no reconnaisance data; the only way to detect even major hurricanes far at sea being ship reports. We know of 21...it's possible the true number was NS was 22 or more.

One thing I've learned in three decades of weather research: NEVER SAY NEVER. I well remember some meteorologists in the 1970's doubting the 1935 "Labor Day" hurricane's reported central pressure (892 mb) being accurate (sub-900 mb), because no other Atlantic hurricane before or since had reached 900 mb....but then Allen in 80' (899 mb) then Gilbert eight years later (888 mb) proved their theory WRONG...

With the data collection methods available today, another season such as 1933 might yield 22, 23, or even more named storms....because the small, weak, and short lived tropical cyclones which were missed in the pre-satellite and reconnaisance days aren't missed anymore.

21 or more named tropical storms this season aren't likely, but impossible.....IMO no way; knowing what I know regarding the tropics and hurricane cycles, I'd estimate the odds of it occurring this particular season at almost 50/50.

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#13 Postby Aquawind » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:44 pm

One thing I've learned in three decades of weather research: NEVER SAY NEVER.


Yep.. Hence I do give it slim odds but a chance for sure...

Paul
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#14 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:13 pm

Agree SouthernWx....I was thinking 50/50.

The main reason I brought this up so early was the fact that we have had 2 systems in June, we have abnormally high SSTs, and think of this....when was the last time you saw so much activity in June?...in terms of the Tropical Weather Outlooks. It was not very often this month that the TWO said absolutely nothing...

This is a sign of:

-Lower Sea Level Pressures, creating more storm activity
-Higher Sea Surface Temperatures
-Greater Instability

Which all = a very active season to come. We will see though!
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#15 Postby hurricanefreak1988 » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:30 am

I just had to bump this thread. What'd I tell you? I'm looking at all these previous posts, and I am seeing a lot of crow that could be eaten, lol. We are about to see our SIXTH storm of the season form in just a few days. Folks, that's SIX storms as of only mid-July. To put that in perspective, the biggest season of all time, 1995, didn't even get its sixth storm until August 5. I'm telling you, if we keep it up, this could be the year. If I were you, I'd start practicing the pronunciation of Roman letters. :P
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#16 Postby Scorpion » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:31 am

Looking alot more possible now than it was then.
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#17 Postby hurricanefreak1988 » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:32 am

Scorpion wrote:I dont give it much chance. I doubt the season can keep going and going. Most likely there will be a lull in July followed by a big August and big September.

So you want to take this statement back, huh? :lol:
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#18 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:59 am

It looks quite possible
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#19 Postby Trader Ron » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:54 am

If i was making "book" on this. I'd make the odds 1% for an Alpha storm. 20% for 19 storms. One more thing. If we have a parade of storms, there will be an awful lot of "upwelling" in the tropics regardless of higher SST's.

There might be a crow-fest at my house, but what the hay. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#20 Postby stormie » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:24 am

First the Red Sox (which I also called this year 8-) )...why not Tropical Storm Alpha?

Okay, seriously though, given the length of time data has been kept and the variance by which storms have been measured throughout the duration, I wouldn't be shocked if there was a slightly higher ceiling with respect to number of storms than we might currently believe.
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