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#61 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:34 pm

SUPPLEMENTARY VORTEX MESSAGE

Storm: Storm EMILY: Observed By AF #302
Storm #05 in Atlantic Ocean1
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were 101KT (116.2mph 187.1km/h) In NW Quadrant At 23:44:30 Z
Estimated Max Surface Winds 90.9KT (104.5mph 168.3km/h) *
Misc Remarks: X FL TEMP 16 C, 318 / 6NM (Report Time: 15/0030Z)
Max Inbound Flight Level Winds: 13.4N 66.7W 101KT (116.15MPH 187.1km/h) [23:05:50Z to 23:41:20Z]
Inbound Surface Wind Observed At 25KT (28.75MPH 46.3km/h) @ 080°
Max Outbound Flight Level Winds: 13.2N 66.6W 089KT (102.35MPH 164.8km/h) [23:51:30Z to 00:15:20Z]
Data # Position Height Temp Dewpoint Wind
I01 14.6N 68.5W 700mb Height @ 3158m 9°C 3°C 035KT (40.25MPH 64.8 km/h) @ 60°
I02 14.4N 68.3W 700mb Height @ 3153m 9°C 4°C 037KT (42.55MPH 68.5 km/h) @ 60°
I03 14.2N 68.1W 700mb Height @ 3148m 8°C 4°C 039KT (44.85MPH 72.2 km/h) @ 60°
I04 14.1N 67.9W 700mb Height @ 3144m 9°C 4°C 036KT (41.4MPH 66.7 km/h) @ 50°
I05 14.0N 67.7W 700mb Height @ 3139m 10°C 4°C 036KT (41.4MPH 66.7 km/h) @ 40°
I06 13.8N 67.5W 700mb Height @ 3131m 9°C 4°C 044KT (50.6MPH 81.5 km/h) @ 40°
I07 13.7N 67.3W 700mb Height @ 3121m 10°C 5°C 047KT (54.05MPH 87.0 km/h) @ 50°
I08 13.6N 67.0W 700mb Height @ 3100m 9°C 7°C 051KT (58.65MPH 94.5 km/h) @ 50°
I09 13.5N 66.8W 700mb Height @ 3050m 8°C 8°C 062KT (71.3MPH 114.8 km/h) @ 40°
O01 13.1N 66.5W 700mb Height @ 3052m 5°C 5°C 056KT (64.4MPH 103.7 km/h) @ 210°
O02 12.9N 66.3W 700mb Height @ 3101m 8°C 8°C 042KT (48.3MPH 77.8 km/h) @ 200°
O03 12.7N 66.1W 700mb Height @ 3121m 9°C 5°C 040KT (46MPH 74.1 km/h) @ 190°
O04 12.6N 65.9W 700mb Height @ 3134m 9°C 6°C 034KT (39.1MPH 63.0 km/h) @ 180°
O05 12.4N 65.7W 700mb Height @ 3141m 8°C 5°C 031KT (35.65MPH 57.4 km/h) @ 170°
O06 12.2N 65.5W 700mb Height @ 3144m 9°C 6°C 030KT (34.5MPH 55.6 km/h) @ 170°
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#62 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:36 pm

Observation Number: 08
Time: 0019Z
Position: 12.1 N 65.4 W
Flight level winds: 25 knots//180
700 millibar height: 3146 meters


URNT11 KNHC 150028
97779 00194 60121 6540/ 30500 18025 1004/ /3146
RMK AF302 0405A EMILY OB 08
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#63 Postby wxwatcher91 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:41 pm

here's it raw:
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UZNT13 KNHC 150029
XXAA 65007 99132 70666 04336 99967 25800 ///// 00796 ///// /////
92393 23201 17112 85131 20602 20095 70798 13815 26070 88999 77999
31313 09608 82347
61616 AF302 0405A EMILY OB 07
62626 EYEWALL 135 SPL 1334N06656W 2352 LST WND 025 MBL WND 17116
AEV 20507 DLM WND 20091 965719 WL150 16122 099 =
XXBB 65008 99132 70666 04336 00967 25800 11952 24001 22850 20602
33771 17008 44748 18043 55729 15004 66696 14020
21212 00967 ///// 11965 16123 22953 16120 33948 16623 44937 17114
55920 17610 66905 18114 77899 18107 88889 18608 99867 19097 11850
20095 22779 22584 33757 22602 44696 26567
31313 09608 82347
61616 AF302 0405A EMILY OB 07
62626 EYEWALL 135 SPL 1334N06656W 2352 LST WND 025 MBL WND 17116
AEV 20507 DLM WND 20091 965719 WL150 16122 099 =
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#64 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:47 pm

At 0040... heading west of north...almost in the ne quad...

0040 1315N 06533W 03049 0135 151 044 086 054 045 03236 0000000000
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#65 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:52 pm

Just an fyi on the position in the minobs... unlike all of the other observations, they are done in a degree minute format vice decimal degrees

For example
1315N 06533

is 13.3N 65.5W in the decimal format that everything else uses...

My father was a navigator on P-3s (The Navy subhunting version that NOAA's WP-3 is derived from) ... it used to bug the snot out of him when I would give the positions the way the NHC does in their advisories... he insisted on me converting it to degrees and minutes...
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#66 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:55 pm

At 0050Z... still working their way north... outer part of ne quad now...flight level wind 49 knots...


0050 1357N 06541W 03049 0140 137 049 080 054 049 03241 0000000000
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#67 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:04 pm

0100Z ...still going just west of north... 52 knot fl winds...

0100 1438N 06550W 03047 0148 132 052 088 054 052 03246 0000000000
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#68 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:07 pm

Observation Number: 10
Time: 0101Z
Position: 14.7 N // 65.9 W
Flight level winds: 50 knots//130
700 millibar height: 3158 m




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#69 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:18 pm

0110Z ... max fl wind 51 knots...they started going inbound towards the eye at 0101Z... ne-sw pass...

0110 1419N 06617W 03049 0133 126 051 080 052 051 03234 0000000000
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#70 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:28 pm

0120Z... 70 knots fl winds...

0120 1353N 06643W 03047 0099 115 069 078 070 070 03198 0000000000
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#71 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:31 pm

gkrangers wrote:
StormsAhead wrote:They have started to go north again. The next time they go into the eyewall it will be the NE quad, so we will see if (or how much) the winds have changed.
Remember, the RFQ is the strongest quad. And in this case, its the NW-N eyewall.


0129. 1328N 06704W 03050 5214 124 110 088 088 125 02887 0000000000

125 knots, 24 knots higher than in the NW quad.
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#72 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:32 pm

Well then shows what I know. :)

What altitude is that at?
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#73 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:36 pm

0129. 1328N 06704W 03050 5214 124 110 088 088 125 02887 0000000000

125 knots... looks like pass through eye started right after that....

700 mb is flight level
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#74 Postby Thunder44 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:37 pm

clfenwi wrote:0129. 1328N 06704W 03050 5214 124 110 088 088 125 02887 0000000000

125 knots... looks like pass through eye started right after that....

700 mb is flight level


That would be about 129mph at the surface.
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#75 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:37 pm

clfenwi wrote:0129. 1328N 06704W 03050 5214 124 110 088 088 125 02887 0000000000

125 knots... looks like pass through eye started right after that....

700 mb is flight level
Thats close to 10,000 feet. Don't know how to convert that properly.
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#76 Postby Brent » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:38 pm

clfenwi wrote:0129. 1328N 06704W 03050 5214 124 110 088 088 125 02887 0000000000

125 knots... looks like pass through eye started right after that....

700 mb is flight level


:eek: :eek: :eek:

Well it's certainly stronger than a low-end Cat 3.
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#77 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:40 pm

take 90 percent of the FL winds, yields 110-115KT
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#78 Postby gkrangers » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:41 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:take 90 percent of the FL winds, yields 110-115KT
So 925 is 90, 850 is 80, and 700 is 90?
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#79 Postby clfenwi » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:43 pm

gkrangers wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:take 90 percent of the FL winds, yields 110-115KT
So 925 is 90, 850 is 80, and 700 is 90?


Yeah, go back and look at the dropsonde obs... winds increase up to 850 mb level and start decreasing after that....
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#80 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:44 pm

gkrangers wrote:
clfenwi wrote:0129. 1328N 06704W 03050 5214 124 110 088 088 125 02887 0000000000

125 knots... looks like pass through eye started right after that....

700 mb is flight level
Thats close to 10,000 feet. Don't know how to convert that properly.


Yep, 10006.6 feet for that ob. Center near 13.4N 67.1W.
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