H Emily Recon Reports

#1 Postby **cycloneye** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:30 pm

Ok a new thread for this evenings mission.

mike18xx · #2 Postby **mike18xx** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:33 pm

Why so many new threads?

(It's a pain keeping so many windows open.)

gkrangers · #3 Postby **gkrangers** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:33 pm

So that theres no old discussion and old obs that could lead to confusion.

#4 Postby **cycloneye** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:34 pm

946
URNT11 KNHC 162005
97779 19434 71275 90800 85400 99005 76841 /8053
RMK AF305 0905A EMILY OB 02

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #5 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:35 pm

cycloneye wrote:946
URNT11 KNHC 162005
97779 19434 71275 90800 85400 99005 76841 /8053
RMK AF305 0905A EMILY OB 02

That's from one of the upper-level flights. There are three planes investigating Emily this evening - two upper-level and one fix mission.

#6 Postby **cycloneye** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:37 pm

senorpepr wrote:
cycloneye wrote:946
URNT11 KNHC 162005
97779 19434 71275 90800 85400 99005 76841 /8053
RMK AF305 0905A EMILY OB 02

That's from one of the upper-level flights. There are three planes investigating Emily this evening - two upper-level and one fix mission.

Ok Mike thanks for clarifying that.

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #7 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:37 pm

I'll go ahead and decode dropsondes from the upper-level flight. This one is really far away from Emily. They just took off from Keesler not too long ago.

Dropsonde Observation
Storm Name: EMILY (05L)
Mission Number: 09
Flight ID: AF305
Observation Number: 03
Time: 2000Z
Latitude: 27.3°N
Longitude: 91.6°W
Location: 153 mi S of Morgan City, Louisiana
Surface: 1016 mb; Temp: 84°F; Dewpt: 106°F; SSE (150°) @ 14 mph
1000mb height: 479 ft; Temp: 82°F; Dewpt: 93°F; SSE (150°) @ 14 mph
925mb height: 2736 ft; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 133°F; SSE (160°) @ 14 mph
850mb height: 1860 ft; Temp: 65°F; Dewpt: 104°F; SSE (160°) @ 16 mph
700mb height: 10518 ft; Temp: 47°F; Dewpt: 84°F; SE (140°) @ 16 mph
500mb height: 19423 ft; Temp: 43°F; Dewpt: 136°F; SE (130°) @ 14 mph
400mb height: 25033 ft; Temp: 61°F; Dewpt: 133°F; SE (135°) @ 7 mph
SPL 2731N09158W 2002 MBL WND 15013 AEV 20504 DLM WND 15012
016351 WL150 15012 081

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #8 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:38 pm

Just in... AF Flight 304, on mission X, just took off from St. Croix.

#9 Postby **baygirl_1** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:42 pm

senorpepr wrote:I'll go ahead and decode dropsondes from the upper-level flight. This one is really far away from Emily. They just took off from Keesler not too long ago.

Dropsonde Observation
Storm Name: EMILY (05L)
Mission Number: 09
Flight ID: AF305
Observation Number: 03
Time: 2000Z
Latitude: 27.3°N
Longitude: 91.6°W
Location: 153 mi S of Morgan City, Louisiana
Surface: 1016 mb; Temp: 84°F; Dewpt: 106°F; SSE (150°) @ 14 mph
1000mb height: 479 ft; Temp: 82°F; Dewpt: 93°F; SSE (150°) @ 14 mph
925mb height: 2736 ft; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 133°F; SSE (160°) @ 14 mph
850mb height: 1860 ft; Temp: 65°F; Dewpt: 104°F; SSE (160°) @ 16 mph
700mb height: 10518 ft; Temp: 47°F; Dewpt: 84°F; SE (140°) @ 16 mph
500mb height: 19423 ft; Temp: 43°F; Dewpt: 136°F; SE (130°) @ 14 mph
400mb height: 25033 ft; Temp: 61°F; Dewpt: 133°F; SE (135°) @ 7 mph
SPL 2731N09158W 2002 MBL WND 15013 AEV 20504 DLM WND 15012
016351 WL150 15012 081

question: do they usually do dropsondes so far away from a hurricane? it seems weird. or am i clueless? (quite possible!)

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #10 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:45 pm

baygirl_1 wrote:question: do they usually do dropsondes so far away from a hurricane? it seems weird. or am i clueless? (quite possible!)

Normally they don't, but my guess is they are dropping them now to get an idea of the ridging across the Gulf. These observations will be injested into the models and help provide a better clue as to if there will be any northward turn before final landfall.

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #11 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:46 pm

Dropsonde Observation
Storm Name: EMILY (05L)
Mission Number: 09
Flight ID: AF305
Observation Number: 04
Time: 2000Z
Latitude: 28.5°N
Longitude: 94.1°W
Location: 70 mi SE of Galveston, Texas
Surface: 1016 mb; Temp: 84°F; Dewpt: 118°F; SSE (160°) @ 8 mph
1000mb height: 463 ft; Temp: 82°F; Dewpt: 104°F; SSE (150°) @ 9 mph
925mb height: 2720 ft; Temp: 72°F; Dewpt: 72°F; SSE (160°) @ 14 mph
850mb height: 1841 ft; Temp: 64°F; Dewpt: 68°F; SSE (150°) @ 14 mph
700mb height: 10492 ft; Temp: 48°F; Dewpt: 113°F; SSE (160°) @ 21 mph
500mb height: 19390 ft; Temp: 42°F; Dewpt: 118°F; SSW (210°) @ 33 mph
400mb height: 25033 ft; Temp: 62°F; Dewpt: 75°F; S (185°) @ 10 mph
SPL 2852N09409W 2033 MBL WND 16010 AEV 20504 DLM WND 17015
015361 WL150 15508 081

#12 Postby **baygirl_1** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:47 pm

senorpepr wrote:
baygirl_1 wrote:question: do they usually do dropsondes so far away from a hurricane? it seems weird. or am i clueless? (quite possible!)

Normally they don't, but my guess is they are dropping them now to get an idea of the ridging across the Gulf. These observations will be injested into the models and help provide a better clue as to if there will be any northward turn before final landfall.

thanks. after i posted the question, i remembered you'd written that this was an upper level synoptic mission. it would make sense that they're sampling the gulf to determine factors influencing emily's track once she enters the gulf in a day or so.
thanks again, senorpepr, for the quick answer.

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #13 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:17 pm

Dropsonde Observation
Storm Name: EMILY (05L)
Mission Number: 09
Flight ID: AF305 (UL Flight)
Observation Number: 06
Time: 2100Z
Latitude: 25.9°N
Longitude: 93.9°W
Location: 203 mi E of Brownsville, Texas
Surface: 1014 mb; Temp: 86°F; Dewpt: 133°F; SE (140°) @ 16 mph
1000mb height: 413 ft; Temp: 83°F; Dewpt: 122°F; SSE (150°) @ 21 mph
925mb height: 2677 ft; Temp: 74°F; Dewpt: 104°F; SSE (150°) @ 20 mph
850mb height: 1801 ft; Temp: 65°F; Dewpt: 86°F; SSE (160°) @ 17 mph
700mb height: 10469 ft; Temp: 49°F; Dewpt: 133°F; SE (140°) @ 15 mph
500mb height: 19390 ft; Temp: 42°F; Dewpt: 144°F; SSE (150°) @ 13 mph
400mb height: 25033 ft; Temp: 61°F; Dewpt: 100°F; SSE (155°) @ 8 mph
SPL 2597N09395W 2103 MBL WND 15017 AEV 20504 DLM WND 15012
014352 WL150 15016 081

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #14 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:57 pm

Here are a couple of RECCOs that came in from the fix flight (AF304) while I was away from the office. (Hey... I gotta eat some time :wink:

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RECCO Observation
Storm Name: EMILY (05L)
Mission Number: 10
Flight ID: AF304
Observation Number: 01
Time: 2117Z
Latitude: 18.2°N
Longitude: 67.4°W
Location: 93 mi W of San Juan, Puerto Rico
Turbulence: None
Flight condition: Clear
Pressure Altitude: 24000 feet
Flight level wind: NE (50°) @ 29 mph
Temperature: 0°F
Dewpoint: N/A°F
Weather: Scattered Skies
400mb height: 25000 feet
Surface Wind: N/A
Remarks: None

RECCO Observation
Storm Name: EMILY (05L)
Mission Number: 10
Flight ID: AF304
Observation Number: 02
Time: 2147Z
Latitude: 18.1°N
Longitude: 70.2°W
Location: 42 mi WSW of Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic
Turbulence: None
Flight condition: Clear
Pressure Altitude: 24000 feet
Flight level wind: ENE (70°) @ 22 mph
Temperature: 0°F
Dewpoint: -29°F
Weather: Scattered Skies
400mb height: 25100 feet
Surface Wind: N/A
Remarks: None

Matt-hurricanewatcher · #15 Postby **Matt-hurricanewatcher** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:04 pm

When is vortex come in???

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #16 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:06 pm

Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:When is vortex come in???

It won't be for a while. They haven't even reached the outer thick cirrus of Emily. They are travelling over the southern tip of Haiti as we speak. Give it a few hours. It probably won't make it for the 00Z Advisory.

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #17 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:15 pm

Dropsonde Observation
Storm Name: EMILY (05L)
Mission Number: 09
Flight ID: AF305 (UL Flight)
Observation Number: 08
Time: 2200Z
Latitude: 23.4°N
Longitude: 94°W
Location: 258 mi ENE of Tampico, Mexico
Surface: 1013 mb; Temp: 85°F; Dewpt: 122°F; SSE (150°) @ 13 mph
1000mb height: 374 ft; Temp: 83°F; Dewpt: 122°F; SE (140°) @ 13 mph
925mb height: 2631 ft; Temp: 72°F; Dewpt: 57°F; SE (140°) @ 17 mph
850mb height: 1755 ft; Temp: 68°F; Dewpt: 147°F; SE (140°) @ 23 mph
700mb height: 10440 ft; Temp: 50°F; Dewpt: 136°F; SE (130°) @ 20 mph
500mb height: 19324 ft; Temp: 42°F; Dewpt: 145°F; ESE (110°) @ 24 mph
400mb height: 24967 ft; Temp: 60°F; Dewpt: 165°F; ENE (65°) @ 16 mph

SPL 2343N09404W 2204 MBL WND 14012 AEV 20504 DLM WND 12516
012364 WL150 14511 080

Andy_L · #18 Postby **Andy_L** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:16 pm

does anyone know what callsign the hurricane hunters use for air traffic control purposes? just wondered if they have something special other than, eg. AF304

clfenwi · #19 Postby **clfenwi** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:19 pm

senorpepr wrote:
Matt-hurricanewatcher wrote:When is vortex come in???

It won't be for a while. They haven't even reached the outer thick cirrus of Emily. They are travelling over the southern tip of Haiti as we speak. Give it a few hours. It probably won't make it for the 00Z Advisory.

I think they can do it... they are going about 340 knots or so...at 6 PM they were about 470 nm from where the center would be, so a direct course would put them there just before 7:30... 15+ minutes of fudge time yields 7:45.... I think they can do it...

https://www.youtube.com/user/senorpepr · #20 Postby **senorpepr** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:20 pm

Andy_L wrote:does anyone know what callsign the hurricane hunters use for air traffic control purposes? just wondered if they have something special other than, eg. AF304

Nope, AF304, -305, etc. is all they use.

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