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Disturbing post on another forum about evacuations in Mexico

#1 Postby Nottacky » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:45 am

I just read this on another forum, doesn't sound good at all.
http://www.trumpetmaster.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5485
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#2 Postby Innotech » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:52 am

Lafayette, Louisiana isnt even 40 miles from the coast (closer to 30), but yes that stuff about Mexico "preparations" is definitely sobering news.
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#3 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:54 am

Not surprised.
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#4 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:58 am

Well the Cancun area has about 50,000 hotel rooms now compared to about 8000 back when Gilbert hit.

I think that would make any evac a bit more problematic.
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#5 Postby wlfpack81 » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:14 pm

Wow and go figure. Greatone has a post at the bottom of that thread. LOL spreading more garbage as usual. Honestly this person has to be a kid making jokes/playing a prank on us otherwise he's an adult w/serious issues!!!
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#6 Postby gtalum » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:17 pm

If Greatone were the great forecaster he claims to be, you think he'd mention the correct storm name in his blustering. :lol:
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#7 Postby Innotech » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:18 pm

or be able to spell like a professional.
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#8 Postby gtalum » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:21 pm

That too.
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#9 Postby clfenwi » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:26 pm

I wish I could get this (http://www.novenet.com.mx/noticias/port ... 5julio.pdf ) to load so I could cite the numbers, but the story on the top right corner suggested that the area did not have nearly enough busses to pull of the evacuation the way it was being described (i.e. tourists being bussed away from the danger area).

Oh, it is in Spanish, so if you aren't bi/multi-lingual...
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#10 Postby wx247 » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:29 pm

I just found out that some friends of mine are in Cancun. They chose a poor time to go!
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#11 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:29 pm

Thats not good
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#12 Postby Scorpion » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:29 pm

At this rate Cancun might be lucky. 948 mb and rising.
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#13 Postby Persepone » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:51 pm

clfenwi wrote:I wish I could get this (http://www.novenet.com.mx/noticias/port ... 5julio.pdf ) to load so I could cite the numbers, but the story on the top right corner suggested that the area did not have nearly enough busses to pull of the evacuation the way it was being described (i.e. tourists being bussed away from the danger area).

Oh, it is in Spanish, so if you aren't bi/multi-lingual...


I think this is what you are looking for:

Refugios para zona hotelera 67
3 a 4
HORAS
508
CAPACIDAD: 32 mil 34 turistas
TOTAL DE TURISTAS: 80 mil
Refugios
EN ZONA URBANA: 131
AREAS RURALES: 45
Autobuses para evacuar
CAPACIDAD: 20 mil 320 lugares
DÉFICIT: 300 a 400 autobuses.
Tiempo de desalojo
AVISO DE EVACUACIÓN: 24 horas
antes de entrar el huracán.
EQUIPAMIENTO
DE BENITO JUÁREZ

I think it says there is a discrepancy between resources available and the number of people to evacuate--but I'm not bilingual in Spanish... perhaps someone who is can translate these figures...

I did not have trouble seeing the page, but it did take some time to download the PDF file (you need Acrobat).
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#14 Postby tndefender » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:20 pm

Interesting and troubling story about Cancun area today: http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArt ... -EMILY.xml

Troubling because My 2 children were there this week and had a flight scheduled for 2 p.m. today. I heard from another source that they were shutting down the Cancun airport at 2. I hope they make it out today.
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#15 Postby stormie_skies » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:28 pm

Those poor people...... I can't even imagine.....hurricanes are scary enough at home, how awful it must be to be in a foreign country where you dont know the language, the safe spots, the proceedures or how to deal with officials....I hope everyone stays as safe as possible. :(

On a more shallow note, why on earth would they suspend the sale of alcohol? It might sound stupid, but if I was holed up in a oceanfront resort waiting to meet my first Cat 4, I would sure as heck need a nice stiff drink just to keep myself from getting too hysterical.... :eek:

I have a real soft spot for the people from that area....I was stranded in Cancun when the airspace was closed after 9/11 .... the kindness the businesses there showed to all the stranded American tourists during that week was incredible - cheap rooms, free food, expressions of sympathy etc. I hope Em takes a turn for the worst, or scoots north into the channel....whatever will save the most lives... :cry:
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#16 Postby Mac » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:29 pm

stormie_skies wrote:Those poor people...... I can't even imagine.....hurricanes are scary enough at home, how awful it must be to be in a foreign country where you dont know the language, the safe spots, the proceedures or how to deal with officials....I hope everyone stays as safe as possible. :(

On a more shallow note, why on earth would they suspend the sale of alcohol? It might sound stupid, but if I was holed up in a oceanfront resort waiting to meet my first Cat 4, I would sure as heck need a nice stiff drink just to keep myself from getting too hysterical.... :eek:


I think they are probably trying to discourage hurricane parties. Suspending the sale of alcohol is not uncommon in the U.S. either. But I'm with you on this one. If I'm about to get slapped in the face by Emily, please give me an anesthetic first.
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#17 Postby clfenwi » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:57 pm

Persepone wrote:
clfenwi wrote:I wish I could get this (http://www.novenet.com.mx/noticias/port ... 5julio.pdf ) to load so I could cite the numbers, but the story on the top right corner suggested that the area did not have nearly enough busses to pull of the evacuation the way it was being described (i.e. tourists being bussed away from the danger area).

Oh, it is in Spanish, so if you aren't bi/multi-lingual...


I think this is what you are looking for:

Refugios para zona hotelera 67
3 a 4
HORAS
508
CAPACIDAD: 32 mil 34 turistas
TOTAL DE TURISTAS: 80 mil
Refugios
EN ZONA URBANA: 131
AREAS RURALES: 45
Autobuses para evacuar
CAPACIDAD: 20 mil 320 lugares
DÉFICIT: 300 a 400 autobuses.
Tiempo de desalojo
AVISO DE EVACUACIÓN: 24 horas
antes de entrar el huracán.
EQUIPAMIENTO
DE BENITO JUÁREZ

I think it says there is a discrepancy between resources available and the number of people to evacuate--but I'm not bilingual in Spanish... perhaps someone who is can translate these figures...

I did not have trouble seeing the page, but it did take some time to download the PDF file (you need Acrobat).


Ah, thanks...the best I grasp it, there are 67 shelters with a capacity for 32,000 tourists...but there are 80,000 tourists in the area...There are 500 busses, but their capacity is only 20,320, they are short 300-400... the time of 'desalojo' is 3-4 hours...evacuation warning comes 24 hours before the arrival of the hurricane...
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#18 Postby Coldfront » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:12 pm

Prayers going up for them all, tourists and locals alike.
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#19 Postby clfenwi » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:15 pm

tndefender wrote:Interesting and troubling story about Cancun area today: http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArt ... -EMILY.xml

Troubling because My 2 children were there this week and had a flight scheduled for 2 p.m. today. I heard from another source that they were shutting down the Cancun airport at 2. I hope they make it out today.


This, from a Mexico City newspaper indicates that the airport is closing at 5 local time (in Spanish) http://estadis.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/294301.html

Something like 40 flights (carrying 5000 people) are cancelled as a result... if my comprehension is correct, something like 20,000 tourists are grounded...
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#20 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:16 pm

Well, they have to get those people out of there somehow
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