H Emily Recon Reports

[cycloneye]

Georges weakened just before it slammed into the islands.

[Innotech]

I cannot remember for the life of me a Cat 4/5 in modern times that has not weakened to a Cat 3 or less before landfall in the US or a major US tourist area(except Andrew).

Charley?

[clfenwi]

I cannot remember for the life of me a Cat 4/5 in modern times that has not weakened to a Cat 3 or less before landfall in the US or a major US tourist area(except Andrew).

Oh yeah, I remember that sudden weakening Charley experienced before landfall....not...

[Brent]

I cannot remember for the life of me a Cat 4/5 in modern times that has not weakened to a Cat 3 or less before landfall in the US or a major US tourist area(except Andrew).

Camille, Andrew???

[rockyman]

I cannot remember for the life of me a Cat 4/5 in modern times that has not weakened to a Cat 3 or less before landfall in the US or a major US tourist area(except Andrew).

You're kidding, right? Instead of trying to "remember," why not do a little research...if you do even the slightest amount of research, you'll find that you've "mis-remembered."

From the NHC Website http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastint.shtml

Hugo-4
Camille-5
Donna-4
Lenny-4
Labor Day 1935-5
Lake Okeechobee 1928 - 4
Galveston 1900 - 4
Carla - 4
Hazel - 4
Audrey - 4

Plus more and more...unless you consider "modern times" to have started in 2005.
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[Innotech]

I cannot remember for the life of me a Cat 4/5 in modern times that has not weakened to a Cat 3 or less before landfall in the US or a major US tourist area(except Andrew).

Oh yeah, I remember that sudden weakening Charley experienced before landfall....not...

Im surprised he would have forgotten such a recent event and huge news story. Major canes still hit the coast, and cat 4s are not out of the question at any itme. A lot of itmes though, a storm reaches its peak beforehand, and is weakening on the way in. It is storms like Claudette and Cahrley that need to be watched, as they strengthened as they approached.

[clfenwi]

Observation Number: 25
Time transmitted: 1612Z
Position: 18.7 North // 83.8 West
Sea Level Pressure: 962 millibars
Surface wind speed and direction: 91 knots // 330
925 millibar height: 344 meters
925 millibar winds: 107 knots // 350
850 millibar height: 1082 meters
850 millibar winds: 104 knots // 015
700 millibar height: 2752 meters
700 millibar winds: 86 knots // 045

EYEWALL 1857N 08382W

[Scorpion]

Charley bombed into a 4 hours before landfall. Im talking about storms that have been strong for several days. Hugo and Andrew are two exceptions, and technology wasn't great back then.

[Innotech]

Charley bombed into a 4 hours before landfall. Im talking about storms that have been strong for several days. Hugo and Andrew are two exceptions, and technology wasn't great back then.

SO Charley breaks your little rule but it doesnt count? Tell people in Punta Gorda that Charley didnt count.

[cycloneye]

Im saying that the technology to weaken storms probably wasnt there.

What technology?

[Hurricaneman]

What are you talking about

[Scorpion]

There is dyno-mat and other techniques such as cloud seeding that could possibly weaken storms more effectively than when Project Stormfury was going on. Maybe they are doing this secretly.

[Stratosphere747]

Im saying that the technology to weaken storms probably wasnt there.

You seriously can't be talking about "seeding" are you?

[clfenwi]

AF308 1105A EMILY HDOB 57 KNHC

1710. 1900N 08359W 03048 5050 132 114 072 072 115 03051 0000000000
1711 1859N 08400W 03047 5077 133 118 074 074 120 03022 0000000000
1711. 1858N 08401W 03058 5109 132 122 088 088 122 03000 0000000000
1712 1857N 08403W 03050 5143 133 128 098 098 130 02959 0000000000
1712. 1856N 08404W 03062 5185 140 130 122 122 132 02929 0000000000
1713 1855N 08406W 03048 5230 145 116 134 134 121 02869 0000000000
1713. 1854N 08407W 03032 5272 143 074 138 138 090 02811 0000000000
1714 1853N 08408W 03088 5294 142 051 142 142 052 02845 0000000000
1714. 1852N 08409W 03074 5314 139 039 160 134 046 02811 0000000000
1715 1851N 08411W 03074 5326 135 024 154 128 032 02799 0000000000
1715. 1850N 08412W 03049 5329 205 006 170 118 012 02772 0000000000
1716 1849N 08414W 03042 5317 304 024 184 112 031 02776 0000000000
1716. 1849N 08415W 03059 5307 330 033 186 112 034 02803 0000000000
1717 1851N 08415W 03054 5319 350 029 174 120 032 02786 0000000000
1717. 1852N 08415W 03050 5325 051 033 160 126 041 02775 0000000000
1718 1854N 08415W 03047 5308 061 050 132 132 053 02791 0000000000
1718. 1855N 08416W 03047 5290 065 057 124 124 058 02808 0000000000
1719 1857N 08415W 03058 5279 077 068 124 124 078 02830 0000000000
1719. 1858N 08415W 03069 5241 091 104 120 120 121 02880 0000000000
1720 1900N 08415W 03046 5186 089 134 114 114 134 02912 0000000000

134 knots flight level...

[Pebbles]

OMG!!! NOT DYNOMAT!!! *runs away screaming*

[mike18xx]

Im saying that the technology to weaken storms probably wasnt there.

....Am I to infer that you not only believe that such technology is here now, but is in (covert) use?

[JTD]

Folks, this is a very important thread as it contains recon results so let's not do anything that will endanger this thread.

[cycloneye]

Scorpion that is crap.Mankind doesn't have to mess with mother nature.

[Scorpion]

I got the idea from another weather forum, where many people believe that the reason all these storms are weakening prior to landfall is the US government intervening. And I agree Cycloneye, messing with hurricanes is not good. But thats what I think is happening.

[cycloneye]

1730 1933N 08414W 03049 0088 096 076 080 080 077 03190 0000000000

Ok let's return to the serious stuff from Recon.