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#1 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:58 am

Until Emily emerges the Yucatan no missions will be flying in but once she splashes completly into the water later today they will go.
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#2 Postby Brent » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:50 am

It's over water.
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#3 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:55 am

But the plane is not scheduled to be out there until this afternoon.

HURRICANE EMILY
FLIGHT ONE A. 18/1800,2100Z A. 19/0000Z
B. NOAA3 1705A EMILY B NOAA9 1805A EMILY
C. 18/1400Z C. 18/1800Z
D. 21.6N 90.2W D. NA
E. 18/1730Z TO 18/2130Z E. NA
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
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#4 Postby clfenwi » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:59 am

Position of ob 6 : 22.4 North 86.8 West...

URNT11 KWBC 181609

97779 16094 20206 85419 55200 17023 54583 /4590

RMK NOAA3 1605A EMILY OB 05 KWBC



URNT11 KWBC 181635

97779 16354 20224 86808 55100 17038 55583 /4589

RMK NOAA3 1605A EMILY OB 06 KWBC
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#5 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:14 pm

NOUS42 KNHC 181400
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
1000 AM EDT MON 18 JULY 2005
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 19/1100Z TO 20/1100Z JULY 2005
TCPOD NUMBER.....05-051

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. HURRICANE EMILY
FLIGHT ONE FLIGHT TWO
A. 19/1800,2100,20/0000Z A. 20/0300,0600,0900Z
B. AFXXX 2005A EMILY B. AFXXX 2105A EMILY
C. 19/1500Z C. 20/0000Z
D. 24.2N 95.6W D. 24.6N 97.1W
E. 19/1700Z TO 20/0030Z E. 20/0200Z TO 20/0930Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.


These will be tuesdays missions the last ones for Emily.
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#6 Postby clfenwi » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:49 pm



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URNT12 KWBC 181733

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE

A. 18/1722Z

B. 21 DEG 54 MIN N

90 DEG 14 MIN W

C. 700 MB 2935 M

D. 40 KT

E. 060 DEG 60 NM

F. 145 DEG 77 KT

G. 062 DEG 43 NM

H. 984 MB

I. 10 C/3058 M

J. 17 C/3057 M

K. 8 C/NA
 47+2NN 1E



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#7 Postby JTD » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:55 pm

clfenwi wrote:

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URNT12 KWBC 181733

VORTEX DATA MESSAGE

A. 18/1722Z

B. 21 DEG 54 MIN N

90 DEG 14 MIN W

C. 700 MB 2935 M

D. 40 KT

E. 060 DEG 60 NM

F. 145 DEG 77 KT

G. 062 DEG 43 NM

H. 984 MB

I. 10 C/3058 M

J. 17 C/3057 M

K. 8 C/NA
 47+2NN 1E





That is awesome news indeed. 984!!!! :D :D
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#8 Postby djtil » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:58 pm

wow.....i knew she was weaker than the estimates but hadnt figured this weak......looks like we are dealing with a tropical storm at this time.
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#9 Postby jkt21787 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:58 pm

djtil wrote:wow.....i knew she was weaker than the estimates but hadnt figured this weak......looks like we are dealing with a tropical storm at this time.

This is still a hurricane, although barely. It will still restrengthen though, we just have to give it time for the core to get its act together, like Dennis did.
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#10 Postby Brent » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:59 pm

984 mb is still a hurricane and let's not forget, Dennis weakened to a Cat 1 over Cuba and made it back to a Cat 4, and this one looks better than Dennis did when it re-emerged.
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#11 Postby djtil » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:00 pm

984 is borderline trop storm/hurricane.........will be interesting to get recon winds.....before landfall wind/pressure ratio was very high.
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#12 Postby jkt21787 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:02 pm

djtil wrote:984 is borderline trop storm/hurricane.........will be interesting to get recon winds.....before landfall wind/pressure ratio was very high.

I would think the 75 mph winds is what recon reported, remember they get the info before we do, and since they have a pressure and center fix, I assumed they got the max winds as well.
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#13 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:03 pm

URNT12 KNHC 181800
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 18/1722Z
B. 21 DEG 54 MIN N
90 DEG 14 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2935 M
D. 40 KT
E. 060 DEG 60 NM
F. 145 DEG 77 KT
G. 062 DEG 43 NM
H. 984 MB
I. 10 C/ 3058 M
J. 17 C/ 3057 M
K. 8 C/ NA
L. POORLY DEFINED
M. NA
N. 12345/7
O. 1/1 NM
P. NOAA3 1605A EMILY OB 08
MAX FL WIND 77 KTS NE QUAD 1714Z



77kts winds in NE quad, that reduces to about 69kts at the surface. So it's still a hurricane.
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#14 Postby djtil » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:04 pm

cool...looks like winds and pressure jive.......very minimal cat 1.
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#15 Postby clfenwi » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:14 pm

Observation number: 10
Time transmitted: 1748Z
Position: 22.2 North 89.7 West
Sea Level Pressure: 998 millibars
Surface wind speed and direction: n/a
925 millibar height: 663 meters
925 millibar winds: 87 knots // 130
850 millibar height: 1395 meters
850 millibar winds: 72 knots // 145
700 millibar height: 3041 meters
700 millibar winds: 69 knots // 155
EYEWALL
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#16 Postby clfenwi » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:46 pm

Observation Number: 14
Time: 1830Z
Position: 21.5 North 90.3 West
Sea Level Pressure: 1000 millibars
Surface wind speed and direction: 43 knots // 245
1000 millibar height: 4 meters
1000 millibar winds 43 knots // 245
925 millibar height: 686 meters
925 millibar winds: 56 knots // 270
850 millibar height: 1419 meters
850 millibar winds: 45 knots//265
700 millibar height: 3068 meters
700 millibar winds: 43 knots // 245
EYEWALL
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#17 Postby clfenwi » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:26 pm

Storm EMILY: Observed By NOAA #3
Storm #05 in Atlantic Ocean1
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were 77KT (88.5mph 142.6km/h) In NE Quadrant At 1714Z
Estimated Max Surface Winds 69.3KT (79.7mph 128.3km/h) *
Misc Remarks: SLP FROM DROPSONDE
Date/Time of Recon Report: Monday, July 18, 2005 14:36:00 (Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:36:00 GMT)
Position of the center: 22° 4' N 90° 28' W (22.1°N 90.5°W)
Minimum Height Measured At Standard Level Of 700mb: 2932m (Normal: 3011)
Surface Winds Were Estimated At: 45KT (51.75MPH 83.3km/h)
Estimated Surface Winds Were Measured 40nm (46miles) From Center At Bearing 180°
Maximum Flight Level Winds Near Center Were 50KT (57.5mph 92.6km/h) From 248°
Maximum Flight Level Winds Were Measured 36nm (41.4 miles) From Center At Bearing 172°
Minimum pressure: 983mb (29.03in)
Eye Wall Was Characterized As Being: POORLY DEFINED
Eye Did Not Have A Definable Form or was not reported
Center Fix Established Using: Penetration Radar Wind Pressure Temperature
Center Fix Established At Level(s): 700mb
Navigational Accuracy Measured At 1nm
Meteorological Accuracy Measured At 2nm
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#18 Postby Thunder44 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:57 pm

URNT12 KNHC 182042
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 18/2012Z
B. 22 DEG 16 MIN N
90 DEG 46 MIN W
C. 700 MB 2947 M
D. 35 KT
E. 029 DEG 50 NM
F. 040 DEG 59 KT
G. 283 DEG 29 NM
H. 984 MB
I. 10 C/ 3041 M
J. 16 C/ 3061 M
K. 09 C/ NA
L. OPEN SE
M. C 60
N. 12345/7
O. 1/2 NM
P. NOAA3 1605A EMILY OB 20
MAX FL WIND 77 KTS NE QUAD 1714Z

A 60 mile-wide eye. Wow.
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#19 Postby jkt21787 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:02 pm

OK, 60 mile wide eye is not going to lead to significant strengthening, much like we saw with Frances. Its not tight enough. Maybe I'm off though.
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#20 Postby clfenwi » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:08 pm

jkt21787 wrote:OK, 60 mile wide eye is not going to lead to significant strengthening, much like we saw with Frances. Its not tight enough. Maybe I'm off though.


That is exactly what I thought (I hesitated posting to verify my recollection...)

Hard to see how that kind of structure will enable her to do much of anything strengthening-wise.
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