When 93L will be classified as TD or never at all?

[cycloneye]

By tommorow afternoon I say.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

11am it looks very good.

[Coredesat]

Tomorrow, 11 AM, if it still looks as good as it does now.

[thefixed]

I picked 11am tomorrow but it may very well be 5pm.

[Astro_man92]

not sure yet i'm not good at this type of poll

anyways

Q: Is there a site out there that shows the wind speeds for the waves because the wave could look like crap but be a TD because it's winds are above 35 mph right

but i've always wondered this. or does it come back in the reports from those planes??? because i don't bother reading those. perhaps I should start reading them

[gkrangers]

It needs a surface circulation first...

[Astro_man92]

It needs a surface circulation first...

so is that why some storms start out as imidiate TS because the winds where TS strength when the surfac circulation started?

[gkrangers]

not sure yet i'm not good at this type of pole

anyways

Q: Is there a site out there that shows the wind speeds for the waves because the wave could look like crap but be a TD because it's winds are above 35 mph right

but i've always wondered this. or does it come back in the reports from those planes??? because i don't bother reading those. perhaps I should start reading them

For a TD to be declared, it must have a closed surface circulation and convection. There is no wind criteria.

[Brent]

not sure yet i'm not good at this type of pole

anyways

Q: Is there a site out there that shows the wind speeds for the waves because the wave could look like crap but be a TD because it's winds are above 35 mph right

but i've always wondered this. or does it come back in the reports from those planes??? because i don't bother reading those. perhaps I should start reading them

For a TD to be declared, it must have a closed surface circulation and convection. There is no wind criteria.

Uh... I think it needs winds of 30 mph sustained. But it must have a closed circulation.

I say 5pm tomorrow if the organization trend continues.

[wxmann_91]

not sure yet i'm not good at this type of pole

Just looked pole up in the dictionary and found nine definitions. So which pole are you not good at...magnetic pole, north and south pole...lol j/k

Ok back on topic. I highly doubt that NHC will initiate advisories (no matter what day) at 5:00 AM or 8:00 AM EDT. Looking at this year, all systems were upgraded to TD at either 5:00 PM or 8:00 PM. And all the major hurricanes this year have been upgraded at 8:00. And since it's too early tonight and I think this will be a major hurricane, I'll say tomorrow night at 8:00 PM EDT.

[gkrangers]

It needs a surface circulation first...

so is that why some storms start out as imidiate TS because the winds where TS strength when the surfac circulation started?

I'm not positive here, but the storms that are immediately declared TS, are probably Invest areas that recon flew into and found a closed LLC and TS winds.

Theres no recon when the storms are coming off Africa...so they just go off satellite estimates. So its unlikely to get a invest right to TS out there.

[gkrangers]

not sure yet i'm not good at this type of pole

anyways

Q: Is there a site out there that shows the wind speeds for the waves because the wave could look like crap but be a TD because it's winds are above 35 mph right

but i've always wondered this. or does it come back in the reports from those planes??? because i don't bother reading those. perhaps I should start reading them

For a TD to be declared, it must have a closed surface circulation and convection. There is no wind criteria.

Uh... I think it needs winds of 30 mph sustained. :

Since when?

[WeatherEmperor]

anywhere from 5pm to 11pm.

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[Astro_man92]

not sure yet i'm not good at this type of pole

it's poll stupid

i changed it. ya happy

no

Just looked pole up in the dictionary and found nine definitions. So which pole are you not good at...magnetic pole, north and south pole...lol j/k

when a system will form kind of poll

[gkrangers]

not sure yet i'm not good at this type of pole

Just looked pole up in the dictionary and found nine definitions. So which pole are you not good at...magnetic pole, north and south pole...lol j/k

Ok back on topic. I highly doubt that NHC will initiate advisories (no matter what day) at 5:00 AM or 8:00 AM EDT. Looking at this year, all systems were upgraded to TD at either 5:00 PM or 8:00 PM. And all the major hurricanes this year have been upgraded at 8:00. And since it's too early tonight and I think this will be a major hurricane, I'll say tomorrow night at 8:00 PM EDT.

when a system will form kind of pole

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[Brent]

Since when?

When was the last time the NHC made a system with 20 or 25 mph a TD???

[Derek Ortt]

jeanne in 1998 went right to a TS. I believe the TD formed either over Africa or just offshore and NHC waited to mkae hte upgrade, by which time, it was a TS. NHC did the same for Isabel as well

[gkrangers]

Since when?

When was the last time the NHC made a system with 20 or 25 mph a TD???

Its irrelevant, theres no official wind criteria. And I'm pretty sure theres been 25MPH TDs...

[Derek Ortt]

I believe TD 6 in 1995 was classified as a TD after recon found a closed circ with winds of 20KT

[thefixed]

According to some definitions of a TD, it needs to have winds of at least 20 knots, but the rest including NHC say 33 knots or less so I think wind speed is irrelevant.