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lol @ MM5 120 hour MSLP...

#1 Postby Steve » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:32 am

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/mm5fsutc ... hour=120hr

A nice pear ;) in the Gulf, maybe 6 closed surface rotations in the Basin. You've gotta be kidding. That's valid for Wed @ 7pm. Who wants to bet this verifies (I'm taking the /not gonna do it/ side).

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#2 Postby tailgater » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:40 am

FSU nuff said
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#3 Postby dhweather » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:50 am

I saw it this morning and thought "gee, time to retire that model"
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#4 Postby Brent » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:57 am

:roflmao:
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#5 Postby P.K. » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:09 am

That looks like one of better runs to me. :lol:
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#6 Postby micktooth » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:12 am

Just like their football programs. They like to talk the talk, but when you look closely, it's all a facade!
:team:
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#7 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:13 am

I second that!! :lol:
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#8 Postby jdray » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:18 am

micktooth wrote:Just like their football programs. They like to talk the talk, but when you look closely, it's all a facade!
:team:



Yeah, kinda like how there is a 10 year record of increased hurricanes there was a 10 year+ dominance of college football.


Its funny when people say FSU has a horrible down year and they still win 10 games.
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#9 Postby WindRunner » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:25 am

Looking at the cmc (different model), it seems to carry three storms by friday night
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.cgi?time=2005073000&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation

Even the GFS has come of its calm period call, it has two weak storms and one dying over canadian maritime by friday night

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.cgi?time=2005073006&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation

But eight at once is beyond pushing it :wink:
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Re: lol @ MM5 120 hour MSLP...

#10 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:59 am

Steve wrote:http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/mm5fsutc2.cgi?time=2005073000&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=120hr

A nice pear ;) in the Gulf, maybe 6 closed surface rotations in the Basin. You've gotta be kidding. That's valid for Wed @ 7pm. Who wants to bet this verifies (I'm taking the /not gonna do it/ side).

Steve
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#11 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:49 am

i'll bet 25 million that the FSU version of the MM5 will never produce a meaningful forecast
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#12 Postby clfenwi » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:05 pm

Obviously, it is an experiment by the Psychology Department (with Dr Hart as a willing co-conspirator) to see how people react to computer models that generate hurricanes in excessive numbers and excessive strength.

Pretty interesting results so far...
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#13 Postby The Big Dog » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:07 pm

clfenwi wrote:Obviously, it is an experiment by the Psychology Department (with Dr Hart as a willing co-conspirator) to see how people react to computer models that generate hurricanes in excessive numbers and excessive strength.

Pretty interesting results so far...

Yeah, he has Derek ready to set fire to Tallahassee.
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#14 Postby Astro_man92 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:11 pm

WindRunner wrote:Looking at the cmc (different model), it seems to carry three storms by friday night
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.cgi?time=2005073000&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation

Even the GFS has come of its calm period call, it has two weak storms and one dying over canadian maritime by friday night

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.cgi?time=2005073006&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation

But eight at once is beyond pushing it :wink:


that cmc model says something is going to develope in the next week or so
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#15 Postby P.K. » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:40 am

Derek Ortt wrote:i'll bet 25 million that the FSU version of the MM5 will never produce a meaningful forecast


You never know, what is the probability of it producing a correct forecast by accident? :lol:
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#16 Postby WindRunner » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:00 am

if it were one in 25 mil that would take 2852 years - some number :eek:
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#17 Postby wxwatcher91 » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:13 am

Derek Ortt wrote:i'll bet 25 million that the FSU version of the MM5 will never produce a meaningful forecast


I take that bet... and add on 25 mil that we will have 4 hurricanes in 5 days.

lol nothing says "in debt" like betting in favor of a FSU MM5 model :lol:
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#18 Postby EDR1222 » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:16 pm

dhweather wrote:I saw it this morning and thought "gee, time to retire that model"


Might be a good idea!
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#19 Postby Steve » Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:04 pm

Of interest, the 18z run from (1pm central today?) develops a storm right over LA and MS. heh.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/
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#20 Postby dvdweatherwizard » Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:31 am

Folks, Dr. Hart's FSU MM5 is EXPERIMENTAL and of course is going to be prone to some mistakes. The websites where this model is posted say the model is EXPERIMENTAL. http://moe.met.fsu.edu/mm5/ and http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/. My goodness, give it some slack. It is ONGOING RESEARCH that you are talking about here, not something that is completely ready for operation that will always suddenly be as good or better than the current operational global models. Show some RESPECT for the people attempting this EXPERIMENTAL RESEARCH that can be difficult and tedious by not being so critical of it right away or laughing at it when it looks bad to you. I would bet that MOST, but not all, of you have NO idea what kind of hard work and intelligence it takes to make one of these models work. I don't care what anybody says; this is NOT a good thread whatsoever.
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