ITCZ Wave 1008mb: RAMSDIS Floater Moved
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The other aspect of the time-distance problem is the timeline for potential development. If you buy the idea of nothing much happening until it gets to 40-45° then you buy the idea that things don't get interesting until Friday-Sunday (65-100 hours). For a couple of reasons, that time gets pushed back more as the northern component of the wave's movement increases.
Haven't looked at 00Z models yet, but the consensus of the 12Z models that depicted the wave was a heading that was more northwest than due west.
Haven't looked at 00Z models yet, but the consensus of the 12Z models that depicted the wave was a heading that was more northwest than due west.
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Ok, checked out the 00Z CAN, UKMET and GFS runs.
Canadian isn't as enthusiastic as it had been, possibly because of the track it puts the system on. It puts the low across 20° North just after crossing 40° West... and moves nearly due north from there.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation
UKMET is somewhat more westerly, but not very much so.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ukmtc2.c ... =Animation
GFS is latest in putting the low across 20&176; West (at about 50°).
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_132s.gif
Extended forecast doesn't take it too much further west
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_204s.gif
TD8 is one player in the future setup. The player in front of it as the low that is to the northeast of it...
http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/shtml/A_sfcbw.gif
The situation suggests a greatly eroded ridge that would leave a northerly path wide open for this wave.
Canadian isn't as enthusiastic as it had been, possibly because of the track it puts the system on. It puts the low across 20° North just after crossing 40° West... and moves nearly due north from there.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... =Animation
UKMET is somewhat more westerly, but not very much so.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ukmtc2.c ... =Animation
GFS is latest in putting the low across 20&176; West (at about 50°).
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_132s.gif
Extended forecast doesn't take it too much further west
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_204s.gif
TD8 is one player in the future setup. The player in front of it as the low that is to the northeast of it...
http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/shtml/A_sfcbw.gif
The situation suggests a greatly eroded ridge that would leave a northerly path wide open for this wave.
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This one may have a good chance of making it across. The models are weakening the trough and strengthening the ridge, so if we get development out of 10N and 35W, it should ride under the ridge building in at around 20N. initially, it may have occasion to head more northwesterly, but the consensus now seems to be that the ridge will be in place before this one gets away. As far as devellopment; it looks great. This one may put the season back on track. Behind it, whoa.....I've never seen it so productive along the wave train.
This season will make last season seem tame in comparison judging by how heated and stepped up we are looking this early in August. And that ridge! Wow! Stamp it 'Westward Ho!'.
Get rowdy out there people.We in business.
This season will make last season seem tame in comparison judging by how heated and stepped up we are looking this early in August. And that ridge! Wow! Stamp it 'Westward Ho!'.
Get rowdy out there people.We in business.
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I would have to agree with (not that it matters) elysium and cyclone eye on the early speculations. I say speculations but they are based on analysis of the patterns. In looking at the GFS it seems to have a better handle on the dry air pulling back in the SAL as seen on the WV loops. If the wave can get under that "tongue" of dry air this will likely develop given the low shear and high SST's. All it needs is moist air and the trend is toward that.
As far as direction I speculate that this will not hold westward track based on model consensus. We have not seen the synoptic patterns set up that way all year. watch for a break out from the ITCZ just past 40W. I think if it organizes into a cyclone it wants to go poleward.
Oh yeah....NOT AN OFFICIAL FORECAST...and that disclaimer stuff. Just my UNeducated guesswork.
As far as direction I speculate that this will not hold westward track based on model consensus. We have not seen the synoptic patterns set up that way all year. watch for a break out from the ITCZ just past 40W. I think if it organizes into a cyclone it wants to go poleward.
Oh yeah....NOT AN OFFICIAL FORECAST...and that disclaimer stuff. Just my UNeducated guesswork.
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