WeatherEmperor wrote:HurricaneGirl wrote::eek: No WAY!!
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Interesting analysis, that's for sure.
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feederband wrote:dwg71 wrote:Not a big surprise. I still think he is too high. I say 17 named storms/ 7 hurricanes and 4 majors. With no majors hitting US mainland, and 5 storms making US landfalls with concentration from Miami to NC.
Wasn't Dennis a major at landfall ?
I'm referring to this point forward...
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Let's not forget the not-so-fine print in Section 9:
Our forecasts are based on the premise that those global oceanic and atmospheric conditions which precede comparatively active or inactive hurricane seasons in the past provide meaningful information about similar trends in future seasons. It is important that the reader appreciate that these seasonal forecasts are based on statistical schemes which, owing to their intrinsically probabilistic nature, will fail in some years. Moreover, these forecasts do not specifically predict where within the Atlantic basin these storms will strike. The probability of landfall for any one location along the coast is very low and reflects the fact that, in any one season, most US coastal areas will not feel the effects of a hurricane no matter how active the individual season is. However, it must also be emphasized that a low landfall probability does not insure that hurricanes will not come ashore. Regardless of how active the 2005 hurricane season is, a finite probability always exists that one or more hurricanes may strike along the US coastline or the Caribbean Basin and do much damage.
The above is what I've been mentioning elsewhere - that while this may indeed be a record season, aside from Dennis and Emily, we may not see any other landfalling hurricanes - but it will still be considered a record season - statistically.
Unfortunately, the media often does not make this clear, allowing the public to believe that every system that forms will end up making landfall as a major hurricane - not true.
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Our forecasts are based on the premise that those global oceanic and atmospheric conditions which precede comparatively active or inactive hurricane seasons in the past provide meaningful information about similar trends in future seasons. It is important that the reader appreciate that these seasonal forecasts are based on statistical schemes which, owing to their intrinsically probabilistic nature, will fail in some years. Moreover, these forecasts do not specifically predict where within the Atlantic basin these storms will strike. The probability of landfall for any one location along the coast is very low and reflects the fact that, in any one season, most US coastal areas will not feel the effects of a hurricane no matter how active the individual season is. However, it must also be emphasized that a low landfall probability does not insure that hurricanes will not come ashore. Regardless of how active the 2005 hurricane season is, a finite probability always exists that one or more hurricanes may strike along the US coastline or the Caribbean Basin and do much damage.
The above is what I've been mentioning elsewhere - that while this may indeed be a record season, aside from Dennis and Emily, we may not see any other landfalling hurricanes - but it will still be considered a record season - statistically.
Unfortunately, the media often does not make this clear, allowing the public to believe that every system that forms will end up making landfall as a major hurricane - not true.
Frank
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Frank2 wrote:Let's not forget the not-so-fine print in Section 9:
Our forecasts are based on the premise that those global oceanic and atmospheric conditions which precede comparatively active or inactive hurricane seasons in the past provide meaningful information about similar trends in future seasons. It is important that the reader appreciate that these seasonal forecasts are based on statistical schemes which, owing to their intrinsically probabilistic nature, will fail in some years. Moreover, these forecasts do not specifically predict where within the Atlantic basin these storms will strike. The probability of landfall for any one location along the coast is very low and reflects the fact that, in any one season, most US coastal areas will not feel the effects of a hurricane no matter how active the individual season is. However, it must also be emphasized that a low landfall probability does not insure that hurricanes will not come ashore. Regardless of how active the 2005 hurricane season is, a finite probability always exists that one or more hurricanes may strike along the US coastline or the Caribbean Basin and do much damage.
The above is what I've been mentioning elsewhere - that while this may indeed be a record season, aside from Dennis and Emily, we may not see any other landfalling hurricanes - but it will still be considered a record season - statistically.
Unfortunately, the media often does not make this clear, allowing the public to believe that every system that forms will end up making landfall as a major hurricane - not true.
Frank
Frank,
Are you a hurricane expert or meterologists? I didnt think you were but I could be wrong. Every main weather source is figuring a bad season with several landfalls? What do you get about that? We cant live in denial, we just need to be prepared.
Matt
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Not officially released...
I am just wondering what CSU thinks about Storm2k digging up this data without it being officially released as of yet. I know it's on their server, but it is not on their web page- at least not that I can see. It is the equivalent of leaking information in my opinion. I would just be careful about doing that since no one at CSU has issued a press release or the like saying that Dr. Gray has indeed raised his forecast numbers.
Just playing it safe here in bringing this up- wouldn't want someone sending a cease and desist order to S2k....with a "Sincerely, Dr. William Gray" on it....

Just playing it safe here in bringing this up- wouldn't want someone sending a cease and desist order to S2k....with a "Sincerely, Dr. William Gray" on it....
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Re: Not officially released...
hurricanetrack wrote:I am just wondering what CSU thinks about Storm2k digging up this data without it being officially released as of yet. I know it's on their server, but it is not on their web page- at least not that I can see. It is the equivalent of leaking information in my opinion. I would just be careful about doing that since no one at CSU has issed a press release or the like saying that Dr. Gray has indeed raised his forecast numbers.
Just playing it safe here in bringing this up- wouldn't want someone sending a cease and desist order to S2k....with a "Sincerely, Dr. William Gray" on it....
Mark I found it here.
http://hurricane.atmos.colostate.edu/Forecasts/2005/
I haved found out that in there they have it with a couple of days ahead of release to his site that happened in April and May.
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