Major Hurricane in New York...

[smashmode]

Newer skyscrapers are designed to move/shift at high winds...

sure you might get windows popping out at severe winds..but these things are meant to move back and forth.

[Derek Ortt]

The trillion dollars we have to spend on recontruction will kill our economy


Some (not here, but in the general public) need to realise what a major would mean for NYC. It would make the 9/11 Air Raids look like a picnic. As tragic as they were, they were very localised. A cat 3 with its 25 foot surge there will not be localised

[smashmode]

I don't know too much about architecture but think: even though the skyscrapers won't TUMBLE over... they wlil still collapse.

many buildings in nyc have large walls made entirely of glass. If the windows are blown out, even of one floor, the internal structure will become much weaker.

Just like on 9/11, if one floor collapses, the floors above it will cascade down upon it, causes it to fall in on itself.

does THAT sound reasonsable?

No.

The floors collapsed in MAIN part because the steel beams holding this thing together melted under intense heat...sure the weight of the top floors contributed..but if those steel girders would have held..they wouldnt have gone down.

[Astro_man92]

here is my bilefe but I can't back it up with any more knowledge

about almost all of the major bisnessess depend on New york for importsand to export there products now if New york is wiped off the map it will be a while befor all those bissnesses can chang to another major harbor and or airport to import products and export there products. Right now i think our economy is proty balenced and if New york goes then our economy is unbalenced for a great while because they will have to swich to other major importers an exporters and they might get over loaded and not be able to handle al of it. are you following me because i'm done discussing this

[smashmode]

You need look no further than the Asian tsunami to see how destructive water at its' worst can be.


Hybridstorm_November2100

A tsunami of that maginutude would not happen with a surge.

[Radar]

Derek,

Have you read any articles about hurricanes written by Dr Nicholas Coch? I have been reading some of his research and believe him to be a very reliable source of information especially his research on the impact of a hurricane to NYC. I was just wondering because you are a pro met what your opinion was of him?

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Derek, rebuilding=More jobs=stronger long term economy. Is that right or wrong?

[Astro_man92]

The trillion dollars we have to spend on recontruction will kill our economy


Some (not here, but in the general public) need to realise what a major would mean for NYC. It would make the 9/11 Air Raids look like a picnic. As tragic as they were, they were very localised. A cat 3 with its 25 foot surge there will not be localised

wwe are already spending trillions right now just to keep our economy balenced right now or is that our GDP

[Derek Ortt]

an immediate need for a trillion could lead to severe inflation

[Astro_man92]

umm our GPD is like 4 trillion

[Astro_man92]

I can't remember the site that as on I used it for a school project

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Tchp is warm enough to form a cat5 to 38 north this year off the cape. At least that is what it appears on the ocean Tchp maps. I would not be suprized to see a possible weak cat4 move into New york if its moving fast enough.

Distorying New york would most likely cost a good amount more then a trillion dollars. Maybe 4 or 5 trillion dollars. That would kill America.

Theres a few theorys on what would happen afterwards.

[wxmann_91]

For anyone who is interested, tsunami videos are at this website:

http://www.waveofdestruction.org/

[KWT]

As I sadid before London has actually seen a fairly severe storm,granted it was nowhere near the scale of a hurricane it still gave fairly widespread gusts of 90mph(93mph in the center)

Becuase it downed loads of trees and made as mess of the roads,nobody could get to work and because of that the share index fell rapidly and this continued the next week as well and caused the U.K to go into 5 years of Recession which caused 100 billion pounds worth of damage to our ecomany,and that was just a strong storm that blew alot of trees over,now imagine a monster storm ripping through new-york and think of the massive damage and I'm pretty certainly the dollar would drop pretty sharply.

Certainly damage into the trillions is very likely.

[Derek Ortt]

Houston only received Tropical Storm Force sustained winds from Alicia. Bad comparison

[Normandy]

Houston only received Tropical Storm Force sustained winds from Alicia. Bad comparison

TS winds? Id beg to differ.

[Derek Ortt]

Yes,

Houston only received sustained TS winds from Alicia. Ask Wxman 57 for more info regarding how quickly the winds decreased from the coastline (plus, the evidence suggests that the 100KT landfall winds were overstated based upon the modern techniques). Gusts may have been hurricane force, but the sustained winds at the 10m level were NOT hurricane force.

Strong TS winds do significant damage

[Scorpion]

I can attest to that. In Frances Palm Beach County mainly got strong TS winds for an extended period of time, and look at all the damage that occured.

[Normandy]

Yes,

Houston only received sustained TS winds from Alicia. Ask Wxman 57 for more info regarding how quickly the winds decreased from the coastline (plus, the evidence suggests that the 100KT landfall winds were overstated based upon the modern techniques). Gusts may have been hurricane force, but the sustained winds at the 10m level were NOT hurricane force.

Strong TS winds do significant damage

Well if wind were overstated at landfall, then yes possibly but if a 115 mph hurricane makes landfall near galveston houston would easily recieve hurricane winds...but if Alicia was weaker then maybe so...

Even still, downtown did likely recieve hurricane force winds due to the funneling of them in between the skyscrapers, and the highrises defintely experienced hurricane force winds due to their elevation.

[Astro_man92]

Tchp is warm enough to form a cat5 to 38 north this year off the cape. At least that is what it appears on the ocean Tchp maps. I would not be suprized to see a possible weak cat4 move into New york if its moving fast enough.

Distorying New york would most likely cost a good amount more then a trillion dollars. Maybe 4 or 5 trillion dollars. That would kill America.

Theres a few theorys on what would happen afterwards.

It would be the permenet record for costlyest storm and that would tick me off. because no offense or anyting but andrew is my fav hurricane because it was the closest to my bithday and it was the first hurricane I knew about followed by floyd in 1999 I tracked him he was the last one I tracked untill 2005 with Ivan, frances, and jeanne I only tracked them just before landfall (frances, and jeanne) I new about Ivan at the south american coast. Well near there. and now i'm tracking the whole 2005 hurricane season well what I can of it.