Target-Bermuda

[MysticOne]

Heres your sign!

http://www.sharkoil.bm/documents/Lore

Um...and your point would be what?

Definitions of lore on the Web:

* knowledge gained through tradition or anecdote; "early peoples passed on plant and animal lore through legend"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* Traditions, or beliefs about a particular subject.
collections.ic.gc.ca/ghost/glossary.html

EXCELLENT POINT! This goes to prove the statement that this method is well used in Bermuda to predict bad weather (ie hurricanes).

Honestly, I don't understand the attitude of some on this board. I would think that those interested in the science of weather might find these theories fascinating and look for possible scientific explanations behind the phenomenon ~ yet some just elect to ridicule. ** Shaking head with sadness **

[Radar]

IT is very interesting, I dont mean to make fun of it... Sometimes new ideas and theories when introduced can be unbelievable to some especially since we are introduced to them as adults. If we had grew up being taught them then it would be easier to not be so skeptical.... I do believe old wives tales handed down from generation to generation have some merit. In this day of sophisticated technology that can predict storms fairly easily we forget that our ancestors and those that have come before us didnt have the same advantages, they had to rely on nature for their source of information. To the original poster of the board please accept my humble apology and take comfort in knowing we laugh at things that we dont fully understand!

[KeyLargoDave]

Radar, good reply. Bravo for showing class.

I'm skeptical you can use the oil to track a hurricane reliably given all the factors involved, but obviously something's going on, not hard at all to believe it's registering atmospheric changes -- pressure, moisture, heck, even electromagnetism; ground vibration; uv radiation...

I'm fascinated by this idea, the patterns and changes you described are complex. And in a sealed jar.

Thanks for telling us about something none of us knew.

[TampaFl]

Small dusky sharks caught within 3 days either side of a full moon will have LARGE pure white livers. The livers are removed (shark eaten- yum) and hung out in the sun to melt. The oil is collected and placed in a wax sealed glass jar and hung on an eastern facing wall to catch the morning sun. After a few days. this new oil will separate with 1/8th milky white bottom sediment and the rest crystal clear. As storms form, move and intensify (or weaken) the white sediment will form patterns (much like a lava lamp) within the clear part. Different patterns mean different things eg. A small skinny spiral, like an inverted tornado indicates a weak system or forming system somewhere within 1000 miles. If a well pronounced banking on one side of the jar appears (usually in the direction of the storm), is an indication of unsettled weather within 3 days) When the oil goes completely white (usually with a thin layer of clear on top), a major weather event is imminent.
This has been studied extensively in Bermuda, and the most credible reasoning is that a shark will feel sick when weather affects his liver and will retreat to greater depths to protect themselves from predators, thus protecting them from the savage seas.
Shark oil is the preferred forecaster during hurricane season in Bermuda

Bdabye absolutely fascinating. Thanks for sharing that with us. Please keep us updated.

Robert

[TampaFl]

IT is very interesting, I don't mean to make fun of it... Sometimes new ideas and theories when introduced can be unbelievable to some especially since we are introduced to them as adults. If we had grew up being taught them then it would be easier to not be so skeptical.... I do believe old wives tales handed down from generation to generation have some merit. In this day of sophisticated technology that can predict storms fairly easily we forget that our ancestors and those that have come before us didn't have the same advantages, they had to rely on nature for their source of information. To the original poster of the board please accept my humble apology and take comfort in knowing we laugh at things that we don't fully understand!

Well said Radar. What our forefathers and ancestors used to forecast the weather in their time worked very well for them. Thanks for bringing this to the forefront and for showing class in your post.

Robert

[caribepr]

Good on ya Radar...one of the first signs of maturity...the ability to see where one was off base, apologise with sincerity, and open up the mind a bit more.

[Guest]

Heres your sign!

http://www.sharkoil.bm/documents/Lore

Um...and your point would be what?

Definitions of lore on the Web:

* knowledge gained through tradition or anecdote; "early peoples passed on plant and animal lore through legend"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* Traditions, or beliefs about a particular subject.
collections.ic.gc.ca/ghost/glossary.html

EXCELLENT POINT! This goes to prove the statement that this method is well used in Bermuda to predict bad weather (ie hurricanes).

Honestly, I don't understand the attitude of some on this board. I would think that those interested in the science of weather might find these theories fascinating and look for possible scientific explanations behind the phenomenon ~ yet some just elect to ridicule. ** Shaking head with sadness **

Hey 1st century gurus wakeup, buy yourself a barometer, quess what, it will be a better predictor of impending bad weather. Folklore is just that, it has no scientific proof backing it. Maybe you would like to sell some shark oil to the NHC. There is no question that animals behavior change with impending bad weather, that has been proven and observed. My point by providing the link was that it was considered as folklore among all the other traditions and rituals practiced in Bermuda. But it doesnt give you the ability to say a storm will pass within 100 miles of Bermuda as was first stated by the original poster. Gimme a break!

[Stephanie]

There are many ways people use to predict the weather - I do possess the Old Farmer's Almanac.

Regardless of whether it is folklore or not, people do have the right on this board to give different points of view, bits of history and information about other cultures. The best part of public forums is that you can learn from and about other people.

Frederic - We have two types of Tropical Forums, one for the everyday people and one for our mets. If you do not like reading posts like these, may I suggest you stay in the Tropical Analysis forum instead.

[JamesFromMaine2]

Heres your sign!

http://www.sharkoil.bm/documents/Lore

Um...and your point would be what?

Definitions of lore on the Web:

* knowledge gained through tradition or anecdote; "early peoples passed on plant and animal lore through legend"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* Traditions, or beliefs about a particular subject.
collections.ic.gc.ca/ghost/glossary.html

EXCELLENT POINT! This goes to prove the statement that this method is well used in Bermuda to predict bad weather (ie hurricanes).

Honestly, I don't understand the attitude of some on this board. I would think that those interested in the science of weather might find these theories fascinating and look for possible scientific explanations behind the phenomenon ~ yet some just elect to ridicule. ** Shaking head with sadness **

Hey 1st century gurus wakeup, buy yourself a barometer, quess what, it will be a better predictor of impending bad weather. Folklore is just that, it has no scientific proof backing it. Maybe you would like to sell some shark oil to the NHC. There is no question that animals behavior change with impending bad weather, that has been proven and observed. My point by providing the link was that it was considered as folklore among all the other traditions and rituals practiced in Bermuda. But it doesnt give you the ability to say a storm will pass within 100 miles of Bermuda as was first stated by the original poster. Gimme a break!

I have seen alot of people make diffrent forcasts on this board and no one has a problem with their forcast! Then this person makes a forcast and people put it down! What gives those other people more of a right then this person? Just because he/she uses a diffrent way of predicting the weather doesn't make it any less right then some one elses! And only some imature person would just write something off with out even taking the time to see if there might just be some truth behind it! Its people like that that will keep this world back from gaining any new knowledge! Every scientifc law started out as just an idea and if no one had taking the time or cared enough to ask the important questions then we would still be in the stone age not even the stone age! And we wouldn't have any of the knowledge about weather we now have and countinue to get every year because people take the time to ask the questions that matter!

[caribepr]

Heres your sign!

http://www.sharkoil.bm/documents/Lore

:break:

Um...and your point would be what?

Definitions of lore on the Web:

* knowledge gained through tradition or anecdote; "early peoples passed on plant and animal lore through legend"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* Traditions, or beliefs about a particular subject.
collections.ic.gc.ca/ghost/glossary.html

EXCELLENT POINT! This goes to prove the statement that this method is well used in Bermuda to predict bad weather (ie hurricanes).

Honestly, I don't understand the attitude of some on this board. I would think that those interested in the science of weather might find these theories fascinating and look for possible scientific explanations behind the phenomenon ~ yet some just elect to ridicule. ** Shaking head with sadness **

Hey 1st century gurus wakeup, buy yourself a barometer, quess what, it will be a better predictor of impending bad weather. Folklore is just that, it has no scientific proof backing it. Maybe you would like to sell some shark oil to the NHC. There is no question that animals behavior change with impending bad weather, that has been proven and observed. My point by providing the link was that it was considered as folklore among all the other traditions and rituals practiced in Bermuda. But it doesnt give you the ability to say a storm will pass within 100 miles of Bermuda as was first stated by the original poster. Gimme a break!

:moon:

How embarrassing to be you, and you don't even know it. I can only say, I hope one day you realize how this appeared to many. and hopefully have the grace of self forgiveness to grow from it. It might help to read some books containing historical grounding on what led us to so much of our current knowledge over many hundreds of years. Good luck in the world.

[Guest]

Shark oil is cloudy, which means Irene will pass within 100 miles of Bermuda
That puts her passing 32N between 65-67w, well east of projected path

Doesnt look like your shark oil is working, may I suggest using Peanut Oil. Oh, wait a minute, how about just listening to the weather forecasters at the NHC. But hey you hold on to your folklore, I'm sure it will keep you safe.

[Derek Ortt]

well... the storm seems to have shifted to the right, being caught temporarily by the weakness NE of Bermuda

[Guest]

well... the storm seems to have shifted to the right, being caught temporarily by the weakness NE of Bermuda

Gee I must have missed that in the NHC 5pm reports.

[MysticOne]

Frederic1979,

I think we have heard enough disrespect from you to last us all a good long while. Please offer something intelligent or spare us your "wit".

Thanks

well... the storm seems to have shifted to the right, being caught temporarily by the weakness NE of Bermuda

Gee I must have missed that in the NHC 5pm reports.

[Stephanie]

Frederic - PLEASE check your pm's.

[Radar]

In stead of making fun of this theory, lets accept it for what it is. Yes, it maybe folklore or an old wives tale, but it is also an interesting piece of history and Culture and something none of us knew until now except for one member who so graciously brought it to our attention. This is part of the people of Bermuda's heritage an old ritual that offered them help through a difficult time (that difficult time was hurricane season). Until recently we didnt have the sophisticated satellites and doppler radar and Hurricane Hunters to fore warn residents of impending doom. Nature was their only device that they knew to rely on. So maybe their methods of forecasting weren't 100% accurate but neither are ours and we live in a high tech world.

I know yesterday after reading the article I made an unsavory post based on my stupidity and ignorance and inability to accept the ways of a different cultue. I have since apologized because it was thoughtless and crass. Frederic I implore you to do the same. Accept the shark oil theory as a fascinating piece of history and culture and quit insulting the originator of this thread with your snide remarks. Maybe Irene won't come close to Bermuda as indicated by the forecast based on shark oil. But to be honest right now NO ONE knows where she is headed and we have billions of dollars worth of technology that isnt telling us anymore about where Irene will make landfall then the shark oil. Frederic I have always been a supporter of you, I have even stood up for you before in a thread. Know that I would not critize you unless I felt I had a valid reason.

[fci]

I join the rest of the board in apologizing to bdabye for a couple of remarks made in this thread

Like I wrote last night; your post was fascinating and, by no means take the few improper comments as a deterrent from future posting.

Thank you again for the post!

[Guest]

[Stephanie]

The problem has been taken care of everyone!

Radar & fci - thank you for posting your apologies. I'm sure that bdabye appreciates it and many others.

Carry On!

[caribepr]

Thanks Stephanie! Always good to know respect for each other is held in high esteem here, in words and actions!