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#121 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:36 am

Run is out to 144 hours now ... looks like a hurricane at about 17N 56W or so. Weakness ahead at the lower levels, but still quite good mid-level ridging over it.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/12/fp0_144.shtml
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#122 Postby dwg71 » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:37 am

look at this loop, convection seems to have died off, and is the axis is near 10N.

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/ ... nhanced+12

sorry forgot link
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#123 Postby Steve H. » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:39 am

If I were you i'd be a leeetle bit more concerned about the area east of the Bahamas, that will develop, cross FL into the GOM. It is currently fired convection, but it will have to wait until the ridge builds in for the shear to relax. IMO the models are underdoing the potential here. :(
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#124 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:40 am

162 hours, crossing 60W at about 18N ... not looking good for the EC if this verifies.
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#125 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:43 am

Steve H. wrote:If I were you i'd be a leeetle bit more concerned about the area east of the Bahamas, that will develop, cross FL into the GOM. It is currently fired convection, but it will have to wait until the ridge builds in for the shear to relax. IMO the models are underdoing the potential here. :(


I'm not yet convinced that crosses into the GOM - both the Euro and the NOGAPS keep it east of Florida, and that looks plausible to me. Also, even if the GFS idea verifies, I'm not convinced conditions are right for development in the Gulf in that timeframe.
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#126 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:53 am

Finally ... at 216 hours it breaks down the ridge to the north, after having the system pass uncomfortably close to PR and Hispaniola. May have it recurving before the EC after all ...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/12/fp0_216.shtml

Thing that bothers me with this whole scenario, though, is that the GFS tends to have a rightward bias to tracks under a ridge. So we may be looking at a system getting into the Caribbean.
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#127 Postby curtinnc » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:56 am

Well, isn't this just peachy... Grrrrrrrrrrr :x
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#128 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:57 am

x-y-no wrote:Finally ... at 216 hours it breaks down the ridge to the north, after having the system pass uncomfortably close to PR and Hispaniola. May have it recurving before the EC after all ...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/12/fp0_216.shtml

Thing that bothers me with this whole scenario, though, is that the GFS tends to have a rightward bias to tracks under a ridge. So we may be looking at a system getting into the Caribbean.


If that verifies it will be too close for comfort here in Puerto Rico but more threatening to the northern Leewards.Let's see what the other 12z globals show.

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#129 Postby x-y-no » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:05 pm

Long-range, stalls it near Canada, then takes it west into Maine.

That truly would be bizarre.
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#130 Postby Aquawind » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:16 pm

Just looking at the models and this certainly looks to close for comfort in the islands..Looks to be a serious threat...

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#131 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:24 pm

x-y-no wrote:Long-range, stalls it near Canada, then takes it west into Maine.

That truly would be bizarre.


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#132 Postby cjrciadt » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:26 pm

After these two seasons anything is on table , no matter how crazy it sounds.
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#133 Postby scostorms » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:26 pm

Canada is going to get hit? The last hurricane was hurricane Juan in 2003 http://www.atl.ec.gc.ca/weather/hurricane/juan/ . I still have no idea what you guys are talking about!
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#134 Postby SouthFloridawx » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:45 pm

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#135 Postby Canelaw99 » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:48 pm

That's just lookin' awful close to the islands for my comfort.
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#136 Postby cjrciadt » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:50 pm

Canelaw99 wrote:That's just lookin' awful close to the islands for my comfort.
Imagine Cycloneye, head's up!!!
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#137 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:52 pm



TROPICAL STORM ANALYSED IN THE MODEL AT POSITION : 8.0N 29.6W



VERIFYING TIME POSITION STRENGTH TENDENCY

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12UTC 01.09.2005 8.0N 29.6W WEAK

00UTC 02.09.2005 8.1N 33.1W WEAK INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 02.09.2005 8.6N 35.0W MODERATE INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

00UTC 03.09.2005 9.5N 36.6W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE

12UTC 03.09.2005 10.5N 38.8W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 04.09.2005 11.4N 41.4W MODERATE WEAKENING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 04.09.2005 12.3N 44.1W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 05.09.2005 13.1N 46.9W MODERATE LITTLE CHANGE

12UTC 05.09.2005 13.8N 49.8W MODERATE INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

00UTC 06.09.2005 14.4N 53.0W MODERATE INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 06.09.2005 15.2N 56.0W STRONG INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

00UTC 07.09.2005 15.9N 59.3W STRONG INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 07.09.2005 16.5N 62.0W STRONG INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY


12z UKMET.

This run plows the system into the Leeward islands and threats Puerto Rico.
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#138 Postby scostorms » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:57 pm

Ok, I cannot get a straight answer! Is this tropical depression 14 we are talking about, or a tropical wave? Or that new development...
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#139 Postby WeatherEmperor » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:59 pm

scostorms wrote:Ok, I cannot get a straight answer! Is this tropical depression 14 we are talking about, or a tropical wave? Or that new development...


that is for Invest 92L I believe.

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#140 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:59 pm

scostorms wrote:Ok, I cannot get a straight answer! Is this tropical depression 14 we are talking about, or a tropical wave? Or that new development...


This is about a system located in the Tropical Atlantic 92L invest almost midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles not about TD14.
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