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#21 Postby cctxhurricanewatcher » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:19 pm

gtalum wrote:Was Bret that Cat 4 storm that hit Kenedy County? Where there's more cows than people or something like that?


That would be the ideal place for the eye of Rita BUT the north part of the storm would hit the Corpus area and we have quite a few refineries here too not to mention off shore drilling too. Bret was a rather compact storm and did little damage to Corpus when it hit Kenedy County in 1999. I expect Rita to be larger because she'll have more real estate to develop over. If you don't want even higher gas prices, you don't want it hitting from Corpus to Lake Charles.
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#22 Postby gtalum » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:25 pm

Trust me, I don't want it to hit anywhere. Unfortunately, that's look9ing pretty unlikely since it's likely to enter the Gulf. Nowhere to go but landfall.
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#23 Postby Windy » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:02 pm

gtalum wrote:Trust me, I don't want it to hit anywhere. Unfortunately, that's look9ing pretty unlikely since it's likely to enter the Gulf. Nowhere to go but landfall.


Unless, of course, this storm were named "Ophelia", in which case it would skirt around the banks of Texas for a while, then back up and hit Cuba.
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#24 Postby arcticfire » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:15 pm

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canegrl04 wrote:The possibility is good that we will see Rita become a cat 3 or 4 . I can't even think about the ensuing hell she would create if she makes landfall on LA coast :(

me neither :eek:


I know...Rita would finish what Katrina started...the complete destruction of SELA :cry:

I hope this doesn't sound heartless but I would much rather this hit LA which is already damaged and people evacuated than to cause more massive damage in TX where the evacuees are. I can't imagine how those children would react if they had to be evacuated somewhere else. Where in the world would they all evacuate to?


I don't think that sounds heartless at all. Best place for it really if it's going to end up being a monster is right where Katrina hit. Major population center already evaced , loss of life would be minor at most. Devestation keept somewhat undre control due to there be less to destroy. Heck and this will sound heartless , if NOLA get smashed by a cat5 perhaps it will cause enough destruction for peopel to finally wake up to the bad idea it is to rebuild a city there , but thats just my opinion.

TX has opened it's arms big and wide , if any state deserves a little help from the man up stairs it's to keep those warm hearted good people out of danger at least this year.
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#25 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:17 pm

gtalum wrote:Was Bret that Cat 4 storm that hit Kenedy County? Where there's more cows than people or something like that?


You are correct..
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#26 Postby canegrl04 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:19 pm

If Rita hit near NO as a cat 4 or 5,the levees will break again,and NO will merge with Lake Ponchetrane .I agree that its a bad idea to rebuild the city
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#27 Postby johngaltfla » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:20 pm

Windy wrote:All I know is that I topped off the tank last night on the way home from work and emailed all my local friends to do the same. If the storm gets big and the track shifts north, gas won't be cheap.

Here's a map of oil platforms and refineries:

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/special/images/katrina2_large.gif



Sigh. I'm afraid you're right. :eek:
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#28 Postby milankovitch » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:24 pm

canegrl04 wrote:If Rita hit near NO as a cat 4 or 5,the levees will break again,and NO will merge with Lake Ponchetrane .I agree that its a bad idea to rebuild the city


If Rita hit NO as a 1/2 or just glanced the city the levees could fail or rupture somewhere I imagine. I'm not entirely sure, just guessing. Does anyone know the current progress of fixing the levees better? Or does anyone else have a more knowledgeable thought on what the levees currently could handle?
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#29 Postby Windy » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:34 pm

The ACOE and Coast Guard has already stated that levees in their current condition could not even handle a Cat 3 storm. Basically, any major hurricane into NOLA would submerge the city again.
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#30 Postby johngaltfla » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:39 pm

Windy wrote:The ACOE and Coast Guard has already stated that levees in their current condition could not even handle a Cat 3 storm. Basically, any major hurricane into NOLA would submerge the city again.


I'm afraid the lake and NO would become one and the same.


And the Keys won't be in such good shape either. What was missed from Katrina coverage was the flooding in Key West.

This could get ugly again, real, real quick. :eek:
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#31 Postby mikey mike » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:41 pm

Not only would Rita wipe out NOLA,she would spell the doom of us here on the forgotten MS Gulf Coast.
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#32 Postby timNms » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:47 pm

canegrl04 wrote:The possibility is good that we will see Rita become a cat 3 or 4 . I can't even think about the ensuing hell she would create if she makes landfall on LA coast :(


Not to mention what she would do the what's left of the MISSISSIPPI coast if she came inland along our coastline. Folks seem to forget what happened in the state. There are STILL people in my area (90 miles inland) who have no running water or electricity. I can't tell you how many houses I've seen in this area with blue roofs...those that aren't split in two by trees. Another storm would devastate what's left over from Katrina!
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#33 Postby timNms » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:53 pm

arcticfire wrote:
Cookiely wrote:
LAwxrgal wrote:
lester88 wrote:
canegrl04 wrote:The possibility is good that we will see Rita become a cat 3 or 4 . I can't even think about the ensuing hell she would create if she makes landfall on LA coast :(

me neither :eek:


I know...Rita would finish what Katrina started...the complete destruction of SELA :cry:

I hope this doesn't sound heartless but I would much rather this hit LA which is already damaged and people evacuated than to cause more massive damage in TX where the evacuees are. I can't imagine how those children would react if they had to be evacuated somewhere else. Where in the world would they all evacuate to?


I don't think that sounds heartless at all. Best place for it really if it's going to end up being a monster is right where Katrina hit. Major population center already evaced , loss of life would be minor at most. Devestation keept somewhat undre control due to there be less to destroy. Heck and this will sound heartless , if NOLA get smashed by a cat5 perhaps it will cause enough destruction for peopel to finally wake up to the bad idea it is to rebuild a city there , but thats just my opinion.

TX has opened it's arms big and wide , if any state deserves a little help from the man up stairs it's to keep those warm hearted good people out of danger at least this year.


WRONG! There are people in the areas that were affected by Katrina. Those people are trying to put their lives back together. The LAST thing they need is another storm. It makes my blood boil to think there are people in this country (and on this board) that ignorant enough to think that the best place for Rita to strike would be where Katrina struck. Imagine how you'd feel in your whole world had just been ripped apart by a monster named Katrina. Three weeks later another monster was brewing and setting her sights on your area. You are back at what's left of your home trying to salvage what memories you can and someone on a bulleting board says "the best place for this storm to hit would be where Katrina hit". Bet your blood would boil too :)
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#34 Postby mvtrucking » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:53 pm

LAwxrgal wrote:
Cookiely wrote:
LAwxrgal wrote:
lester88 wrote:
canegrl04 wrote:The possibility is good that we will see Rita become a cat 3 or 4 . I can't even think about the ensuing hell she would create if she makes landfall on LA coast :(

me neither :eek:


I know...Rita would finish what Katrina started...the complete destruction of SELA :cry:

I hope this doesn't sound heartless but I would much rather this hit LA which is already damaged and people evacuated than to cause more massive damage in TX where the evacuees are. I can't imagine how those children would react if they had to be evacuated somewhere else. Where in the world would they all evacuate to?


There are people in areas on the western outskirts of NOLA (like me) who have returned home and have damage but are much better off than people to our east who have no homes and can't return to what's left for a long time.

If this storm comes close where would we go? All the hotel rooms are booked.

I do agree though about Texas, there are many evacuees there...basically no place for Rita is a good place.


Lawxrgal,
I have a thought. Maybe it wouldn't hurt, if you were to reserve a room(Just in case) up this way(Monroe) for later in the week as we do have them available now. (long sentence) The room can always be cancelled.

MV
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#35 Postby timNms » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:54 pm

mikey mike wrote:Not only would Rita wipe out NOLA,she would spell the doom of us here on the forgotten MS Gulf Coast.


Shame and disgrace that MS took a DIRECT hit from this thing and the national news media and most everyone else in the country are too ignorant to notice.
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#36 Postby Jagno » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:10 am

timNms wrote:
arcticfire wrote:
Cookiely wrote:
LAwxrgal wrote:
lester88 wrote:
canegrl04 wrote:The possibility is good that we will see Rita become a cat 3 or 4 . I can't even think about the ensuing hell she would create if she makes landfall on LA coast :(

me neither :eek:


I know...Rita would finish what Katrina started...the complete destruction of SELA :cry:

I hope this doesn't sound heartless but I would much rather this hit LA which is already damaged and people evacuated than to cause more massive damage in TX where the evacuees are. I can't imagine how those children would react if they had to be evacuated somewhere else. Where in the world would they all evacuate to?


I don't think that sounds heartless at all. Best place for it really if it's going to end up being a monster is right where Katrina hit. Major population center already evaced , loss of life would be minor at most. Devestation keept somewhat undre control due to there be less to destroy. Heck and this will sound heartless , if NOLA get smashed by a cat5 perhaps it will cause enough destruction for peopel to finally wake up to the bad idea it is to rebuild a city there , but thats just my opinion.

TX has opened it's arms big and wide , if any state deserves a little help from the man up stairs it's to keep those warm hearted good people out of danger at least this year.


WRONG! There are people in the areas that were affected by Katrina. Those people are trying to put their lives back together. The LAST thing they need is another storm. It makes my blood boil to think there are people in this country (and on this board) that ignorant enough to think that the best place for Rita to strike would be where Katrina struck. Imagine how you'd feel in your whole world had just been ripped apart by a monster named Katrina. Three weeks later another monster was brewing and setting her sights on your area. You are back at what's left of your home trying to salvage what memories you can and someone on a bulleting board says "the best place for this storm to hit would be where Katrina hit". Bet your blood would boil too :)


Thank you timNms...................I agree with you wholeheartedly. By the way, we here in Louisiana do pray for our Mississippi & Alabama neighbors every single day as we struggle for the same normalcy that your victims are striving for. Furthermore, folks on this board need to know that Most of our Louisiana evacuees are still right here in Louisiana. Texas was generous after a federal mandate. I am in SW Louisiana and we have thousands we are caring for so anywhere in Louisiana would be devastating for these victims and many more. :(
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#37 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:33 am

Jagno wrote:
timNms wrote:
arcticfire wrote:
Cookiely wrote:
LAwxrgal wrote:
lester88 wrote:
canegrl04 wrote:The possibility is good that we will see Rita become a cat 3 or 4 . I can't even think about the ensuing hell she would create if she makes landfall on LA coast :(

me neither :eek:


I know...Rita would finish what Katrina started...the complete destruction of SELA :cry:

I hope this doesn't sound heartless but I would much rather this hit LA which is already damaged and people evacuated than to cause more massive damage in TX where the evacuees are. I can't imagine how those children would react if they had to be evacuated somewhere else. Where in the world would they all evacuate to?


I don't think that sounds heartless at all. Best place for it really if it's going to end up being a monster is right where Katrina hit. Major population center already evaced , loss of life would be minor at most. Devestation keept somewhat undre control due to there be less to destroy. Heck and this will sound heartless , if NOLA get smashed by a cat5 perhaps it will cause enough destruction for peopel to finally wake up to the bad idea it is to rebuild a city there , but thats just my opinion.

TX has opened it's arms big and wide , if any state deserves a little help from the man up stairs it's to keep those warm hearted good people out of danger at least this year.


WRONG! There are people in the areas that were affected by Katrina. Those people are trying to put their lives back together. The LAST thing they need is another storm. It makes my blood boil to think there are people in this country (and on this board) that ignorant enough to think that the best place for Rita to strike would be where Katrina struck. Imagine how you'd feel in your whole world had just been ripped apart by a monster named Katrina. Three weeks later another monster was brewing and setting her sights on your area. You are back at what's left of your home trying to salvage what memories you can and someone on a bulleting board says "the best place for this storm to hit would be where Katrina hit". Bet your blood would boil too :)


Thank you timNms...................I agree with you wholeheartedly. By the way, we here in Louisiana do pray for our Mississippi & Alabama neighbors every single day as we struggle for the same normalcy that your victims are striving for. Furthermore, folks on this board need to know that Most of our Louisiana evacuees are still right here in Louisiana. Texas was generous after a federal mandate. I am in SW Louisiana and we have thousands we are caring for so anywhere in Louisiana would be devastating for these victims and many more. :(


Yeah that's what I think too, Texas just cannot get a hurricane with all the evacuees there, LA, MS, FL, and AL are still recovering from Katrina, there is just no good place for this hurricane to go. We cannot use another hurricane in rough times like these, and I cannot fathom what the United States would do if another >10 billion dollar hurricane came in the GOM, and not only caused >10 billion in damages, but destroyed all the oil platforms. Whether you are in the path of the storm or not, you will be affected. Whichever way you cut it, we cannot cope with another major landfalling hurricane.

So it does not matter if it hits NO again or Houston, the results will be catastrophic no matter which way you cut it.

On a lighter note, these quotes are really hypnotizing. :D
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#38 Postby bahamaswx » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:34 am

wxmann_91 wrote:
Jagno wrote:
timNms wrote:
arcticfire wrote:
Cookiely wrote:
LAwxrgal wrote:
lester88 wrote:
canegrl04 wrote:The possibility is good that we will see Rita become a cat 3 or 4 . I can't even think about the ensuing hell she would create if she makes landfall on LA coast :(

me neither :eek:


I know...Rita would finish what Katrina started...the complete destruction of SELA :cry:

I hope this doesn't sound heartless but I would much rather this hit LA which is already damaged and people evacuated than to cause more massive damage in TX where the evacuees are. I can't imagine how those children would react if they had to be evacuated somewhere else. Where in the world would they all evacuate to?


I don't think that sounds heartless at all. Best place for it really if it's going to end up being a monster is right where Katrina hit. Major population center already evaced , loss of life would be minor at most. Devestation keept somewhat undre control due to there be less to destroy. Heck and this will sound heartless , if NOLA get smashed by a cat5 perhaps it will cause enough destruction for peopel to finally wake up to the bad idea it is to rebuild a city there , but thats just my opinion.

TX has opened it's arms big and wide , if any state deserves a little help from the man up stairs it's to keep those warm hearted good people out of danger at least this year.


WRONG! There are people in the areas that were affected by Katrina. Those people are trying to put their lives back together. The LAST thing they need is another storm. It makes my blood boil to think there are people in this country (and on this board) that ignorant enough to think that the best place for Rita to strike would be where Katrina struck. Imagine how you'd feel in your whole world had just been ripped apart by a monster named Katrina. Three weeks later another monster was brewing and setting her sights on your area. You are back at what's left of your home trying to salvage what memories you can and someone on a bulleting board says "the best place for this storm to hit would be where Katrina hit". Bet your blood would boil too :)


Thank you timNms...................I agree with you wholeheartedly. By the way, we here in Louisiana do pray for our Mississippi & Alabama neighbors every single day as we struggle for the same normalcy that your victims are striving for. Furthermore, folks on this board need to know that Most of our Louisiana evacuees are still right here in Louisiana. Texas was generous after a federal mandate. I am in SW Louisiana and we have thousands we are caring for so anywhere in Louisiana would be devastating for these victims and many more. :(


Yeah that's what I think too, Texas just cannot get a hurricane with all the evacuees there, LA, MS, FL, and AL are still recovering from Katrina, there is just no good place for this hurricane to go. We cannot use another hurricane in rough times like these, and I cannot fathom what the United States would do if another >10 billion dollar hurricane came in the GOM, and not only caused >10 billion in damages, but destroyed all the oil platforms. Whether you are in the path of the storm or not, you will be affected. Whichever way you cut it, we cannot cope with another major landfalling hurricane.

So it does not matter if it hits NO again or Houston, the results will be catastrophic no matter which way you cut it.

On a lighter note, these quotes are really hypnotizing. :D


It's a quote chain. They start to look very odd after a while. :)
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#39 Postby Windy » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:04 am

bahamaswx wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:
Jagno wrote:
timNms wrote:
arcticfire wrote:
Cookiely wrote:
LAwxrgal wrote:
lester88 wrote:
canegrl04 wrote:The possibility is good that we will see Rita become a cat 3 or 4 . I can't even think about the ensuing hell she would create if she makes landfall on LA coast :(

me neither :eek:


I know...Rita would finish what Katrina started...the complete destruction of SELA :cry:

I hope this doesn't sound heartless but I would much rather this hit LA which is already damaged and people evacuated than to cause more massive damage in TX where the evacuees are. I can't imagine how those children would react if they had to be evacuated somewhere else. Where in the world would they all evacuate to?


I don't think that sounds heartless at all. Best place for it really if it's going to end up being a monster is right where Katrina hit. Major population center already evaced , loss of life would be minor at most. Devestation keept somewhat undre control due to there be less to destroy. Heck and this will sound heartless , if NOLA get smashed by a cat5 perhaps it will cause enough destruction for peopel to finally wake up to the bad idea it is to rebuild a city there , but thats just my opinion.

TX has opened it's arms big and wide , if any state deserves a little help from the man up stairs it's to keep those warm hearted good people out of danger at least this year.


WRONG! There are people in the areas that were affected by Katrina. Those people are trying to put their lives back together. The LAST thing they need is another storm. It makes my blood boil to think there are people in this country (and on this board) that ignorant enough to think that the best place for Rita to strike would be where Katrina struck. Imagine how you'd feel in your whole world had just been ripped apart by a monster named Katrina. Three weeks later another monster was brewing and setting her sights on your area. You are back at what's left of your home trying to salvage what memories you can and someone on a bulleting board says "the best place for this storm to hit would be where Katrina hit". Bet your blood would boil too :)


Thank you timNms...................I agree with you wholeheartedly. By the way, we here in Louisiana do pray for our Mississippi & Alabama neighbors every single day as we struggle for the same normalcy that your victims are striving for. Furthermore, folks on this board need to know that Most of our Louisiana evacuees are still right here in Louisiana. Texas was generous after a federal mandate. I am in SW Louisiana and we have thousands we are caring for so anywhere in Louisiana would be devastating for these victims and many more. :(


Yeah that's what I think too, Texas just cannot get a hurricane with all the evacuees there, LA, MS, FL, and AL are still recovering from Katrina, there is just no good place for this hurricane to go. We cannot use another hurricane in rough times like these, and I cannot fathom what the United States would do if another >10 billion dollar hurricane came in the GOM, and not only caused >10 billion in damages, but destroyed all the oil platforms. Whether you are in the path of the storm or not, you will be affected. Whichever way you cut it, we cannot cope with another major landfalling hurricane.

So it does not matter if it hits NO again or Houston, the results will be catastrophic no matter which way you cut it.

On a lighter note, these quotes are really hypnotizing. :D


It's a quote chain. They start to look very odd after a while. :)


Poor canegrl04 is getting a bit of a squeeze play! :lol:
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