Will Stan be retired?

[fasterdisaster]

Killing at least 59 people, I think it will reach 100, and taking a sharp somewhat unexpected turn south?

[Buck]

They retired Cesar... I think they will retire Stan.

[Coredesat]

They should, but I have a gut feeling they won't.

[hurricanedude]

If you retire every storm...what will we use in the future? Im not sure death toll alone is just to retire a storm..I think a lot of variables come in to play.

[Scorpion]

They most likely won't.

[gilbert88]

If you retire every storm...what will we use in the future? Im not sure death toll alone is just to retire a storm..I think a lot of variables come in to play.

Would you say that if a storm killed 50+ people in the U.S.?

[hurricanedude]

yes i would gilbert 88

[gilbert88]

Well, I disagree, I think death toll should be the primary reason to determine storm retirement. And 50+ dead people are more than enough .

[hurricanedude]

you have to take death toll, insured property damage, crop loss...economical loss etc, and weigh it all out...I dont think a cat 1 storm devestated that area

[krysof]

you have to take death toll, insured property damage, crop loss...economical loss etc, and weigh it all out...I dont think a cat 1 storm devestated that area

The fact is: it was a slow moving and strenghtening category 1, that was on the verge of major hurricane status if a had maybe at least 6 hours.

[hurricanedude]

disagree all you want...thats what makes us different.....but no way 50 deaths qualifies for retirement..I admit, its sad to see this many die...but when you live on the coast...its almost a certain someone will get hurt or die, a chance all coastal residents take from Maine to Mexico

[AussieMark]

why was Lili in 2002 retired anyway?

I mean damages weren't exactly excessive (1998 had hurricanes and tropical storms that caused similar amounts in 1998 Dollars not 2002 dollars)

I think the death toll was on the lower end of the scale?

[hurricanedude]

the fact is it was a cat 1 landfall cane.....IF....forget the IFs....the fact was it was a cat one...6 hours it could have been more, but it want..cant retire a storm on IFS

[wxmann_91]

Before 1995, a tropical storm and/or minimal hurricane wouldn't have been retired even if it killed thousands. Examples include Gordon and Alberto 1994, and Juan 1985. Exception would be Klaus 1990 maybe because France wanted it to be retired.

Nowadays, almost every storm is. And remember there could still be more devastation than what is depicted in the news stories. So if Mexico doesn't ask for retirement, Guatemala will, and if they do not, then at least El Salvador will.

So of course I say yes.

[AussieMark]

you have to take death toll, insured property damage, crop loss...economical loss etc, and weigh it all out...I dont think a cat 1 storm devestated that area

Is this a completely different scenario to Cesar in 1996?

[hurricanedude]

Lili was once a cat 4 storm..the winds diminished but the storm produced cat 3/4 surge...lot of coastal damage and such

[chadtm80]

I say yes.. Retired

[hurricanedude]

CHAD U DA MAN!!!

[Buck]

why was Lili in 2002 retired anyway?

I mean damages weren't exactly excessive (1998 had hurricanes and tropical storms that caused similar amounts in 1998 Dollars not 2002 dollars)

I think the death toll was on the lower end of the scale?

Lili was retired because of the hype surrounding the once Cat 4.

[f5]

Allision was a TS when she was retired he was a CAT 1 same story