What storms should be retired vs. what names will be retired

[Aqua Teen Hunger Force]

So in another thread we hear about 1,100 dead from a mudslide caused by Stan. If this happened in America, Stan would be automatically retired. But since this happened in Mexico, it's anyone's guess. That's sad.

Are there any other casses like this in 2005?

[mtm4319]

I think it's a clear-cut case for Dennis, Emily, Katrina, Rita, and probably Stan, but none of the other ones have any more than the slimmest shot (aka Ophelia).

[gilbert88]

So in another thread we hear about 1,100 dead from a mudslide caused by Stan. If this happened in America, Stan would be automatically retired. But since this happened in Mexico, it's anyone's guess. That's sad.

Are there any other casses like this in 2005?

Stan is pretty much retired now. Some people seem to think it shouldn't because it wasn't a Cat. 5, but it will be retired.

Isidore killed 3 and was retired... why shouldn't Stan, it's already proven deadlier and costlier.

[mtm4319]

So in another thread we hear about 1,100 dead from a mudslide caused by Stan. If this happened in America, Stan would be automatically retired. But since this happened in Mexico, it's anyone's guess. That's sad.

Are there any other casses like this in 2005?

Stan is pretty much retired now. Some people seem to think it shouldn't because it wasn't a Cat. 5, but it will be retired.

Isidore killed 3 and was retired... why shouldn't Stan, it's already proven deadlier and costlier.

If Isidore killed 3 people, then it was retired for some other reason.

[aerojad]

Now that Stan has killed thousands, I toss my hat into the "retire Stan" pool.

[Derek Ortt]

Isidore was retired because it made landfall as a 110KT cat 3 hurricane and flattened the entire north coast of the Yucatan, including a large portion of Merida

[wxmann_91]

Saddest case is Gordon 1994. Killed thousands in Haiti but we will see it again next year.

[Aslkahuna]

If Gordon wasn't retired it would be because either Haiti didn't request it or because they are not a member of the WMO and thus can't make the request. Mexico will probably ask for Stan to be retired-after all, they've gotten other storm names retired including a couple of EPAC ones.

Steve

[Dr. Jonah Rainwater]

Cesar of 1996 was a Category One that killed about 50 people in Nicuragua, and it was retired. Diana killed around 50 people as well, just in Mexico, and was retired.

A tragedy is a tragedy is a tragedy. And this is a big tragedy. The death toll is higher than Katrina's.

[Dr. Jonah Rainwater]

Although honestly, I personally don't think Emily should be retired. I know she was extremely strong, and extremely unusual, but she weakened before she hit a relatively low-populated region of the Yucatan, and then became one of 4 hurricanes to strengthen into major hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico this year, before hitting another sparsely-populated area of Mexico. The death toll for the entire system, including traffic accidents, was 8. I think Tropical Storm Gert had a comparable death toll. And the tourist areas around Cancun, and the economic centers around Tampico and Veracruz were virtually left alone.

Of course, when you put together this Emily, and the Emily of 1993 in North Carolina, and the Emily of 1987 in the Dominican Republic...there are probably enough sheer memories attatched to this name to get it retired.

[HurricaneBill]

Emily made two major landfalls on Mexico. Emily was very damaging on the second landfall.

Remember, Hurricane Anita in 1977 made landfall in a very sparsely populated area of Mexico as an upper-end Category 4.
10 people were killed and forests were pretty much flattened.

Although a pretty much forgotten storm nowadays, Hurricane Anita was extremely vital in regards to hurricane research. I'm sure Derek probably knows the importance of Anita in hurricane research.

[Derek Ortt]

Anita is one storm I have not looked at or am very familiar with


That said, I do know its history quite well

As for Emily, the NE Mexican coast is as bad off, if not worse than Cameron and Mississippi. I saw damage photos there on a spanish TV station in Miami and let me tell you, what occurred there was far worse than the Tsunami from last year. That area received the worst destruction of any area in the 2005 hurricane season. Nearly every house was removed from its foundation

[Dr. Jonah Rainwater]

Oh...I had no idea. I wonder why the US Media gave it such lousy coverage? I guess it missed Cancun and Brownsville and that was all they really cared about. I've noticed that, since the worldwide attention and outpouring from Katrina, we seem to be alot more aware of disasters in other countries, like Stan and the earthquake in Pakistan. That's good, I guess.

[Buck]

I think all 5 of the "big ones" will be retired.

[senorpepr]

Oh...I had no idea. I wonder why the US Media gave it such lousy coverage? I guess it missed Cancun and Brownsville and that was all they really cared about. I've noticed that, since the worldwide attention and outpouring from Katrina, we seem to be alot more aware of disasters in other countries, like Stan and the earthquake in Pakistan. That's good, I guess.

Unfortunately, global coverage of tropical cyclones has been very limited until around Katrina when the media started picking up on the abnormal amount of cyclones this season. Now the media will jump on anything tropical cyclone-related. Honestly, I'm surprised I haven't heard much about TD 21W in the WPAC.

It's kind of like the shark attacks a few years ago. Although nothing was abnormal about it, it was being publicized more. The media jumped all over it and before we knew it, every single shark attack became the top story. Well... until September 11th happened and then the shark "quit" attacking.

[ohiostorm]

Is 5 the most number to get retired in one season? Or is it 4?

[senorpepr]

Is 5 the most number to get retired in one season? Or is it 4?

Four is the record, set in 1995 and 2004.

[Buck]

Is 5 the most number to get retired in one season? Or is it 4?

Four is the record, set in 1995 and 2004.

Don't forget 1955.

[Anonymous]

I think the following should have been retired:::

Alberto 1994
Gordon 1994
Bertha 1996
Bonnie 1998

[Buck]

I think the following should have been retired:::

Alberto 1994
Gordon 1994
Bertha 1996
Bonnie 1998

I agree... at least with Alberto and Gordon for sure. Bertha and Bonnie... I think that they could've been retired, but to me its not as big a deal as Alberto and Gordon.