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#741 Postby skysummit » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:28 pm

I'm being stubborn and still thinking the Big Bend area :) I know I'm wrong though so....yea, just south of Tampa. But....shhhh, I didn't say that.
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#742 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:29 pm

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gtalum wrote:They should only evacuate to nearby high ground.


Could probably evac to sturdy structures on the inland east coast....I understand because it will be a fast mover thru Fla it will maintain alot of its punch, but that also has its benefits.......we won't be under the sustained winds as long. I think it will be relatively safe here on the east coast.


Charley was moving 23 MPH...I think he left quire a mess as far as im concerened...


On the east coast?


Yes. I have family in Daytona Beach that was without power for 17 days. Roof damage unrepaired for 10 months.

Charley was much bigger than the media advertised. The damage in Central Florida is still there. I see it when I travel through Wachula and Avon Park to this day.
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#743 Postby CronkPSU » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:30 pm

floridahurricaneguy wrote:Who still think more north shift? Anyone still?
just wondering


heck, i'll pretend I'm not -removed- and throw out the stronger storm, more movement poleward theory and say it hits north of ft myers
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#744 Postby THead » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:34 pm

johngaltfla wrote:
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gtalum wrote:They should only evacuate to nearby high ground.


Could probably evac to sturdy structures on the inland east coast....I understand because it will be a fast mover thru Fla it will maintain alot of its punch, but that also has its benefits.......we won't be under the sustained winds as long. I think it will be relatively safe here on the east coast.


Charley was moving 23 MPH...I think he left quire a mess as far as im concerened...


On the east coast?


Yes. I have family in Daytona Beach that was without power for 17 days. Roof damage unrepaired for 10 months.

Charley was much bigger than the media advertised. The damage in Central Florida is still there. I see it when I travel through Wachula and Avon Park to this day.


Wow, I didn't realize there was that much damage in Daytona. I guess though if for a last resort, to get away from the coast its landfalling on, shoot across alligator alley and hole up with relatives or a hotel if one can be found.....
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#745 Postby gtalum » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:35 pm

The main concern for people in Tampa is to run from the surge. That's why I say find solid shelter on nearby high ground.

People generally aren't killed by wind damage.
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#746 Postby THead » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:39 pm

gtalum wrote:The main concern for people in Tampa is to run from the surge. That's why I say find solid shelter on nearby high ground.

People generally aren't killed by wind damage.


Exactly, my point too. 80 miles or so to the inland east coast, will be better than facing the surge threat and the higher winds at landfall. I'm in a sturdy, high spot here, not going anywhere.
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#747 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:41 pm

THead wrote:
gtalum wrote:The main concern for people in Tampa is to run from the surge. That's why I say find solid shelter on nearby high ground.

People generally aren't killed by wind damage.


Exactly, my point too. 80 miles or so to the inland east coast, will be better than facing the surge threat and the higher winds at landfall. I'm in a sturdy, high spot here, not going anywhere.


6 people were killed in S Florida directly due to Cat 1 winds in Katrina.
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#748 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:41 pm

When will we see models with the sampled air and Data includedand updated??
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#749 Postby Blown Away » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:42 pm

Have the models shifted S this evening, in paticular the GFDL??
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#750 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:43 pm

gtalum wrote:The main concern for people in Tampa is to run from the surge. That's why I say find solid shelter on nearby high ground.

People generally aren't killed by wind damage.


Tell that to the folks inland west of Homestead plastered by the dozens of tornadoes from Andrew.

You can not, and never should, predict the impact of these storms. Especially when they are bumping up against a cold front. We could see dozens plus or more tornadoes hundreds of miles from the eye.

Hurricanes in October are very, very dangerous.
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#751 Postby Bgator » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:45 pm

As we speak the last 2 frames the storm took a GOOD jog to the north, look for yourself(sry no link)!
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#752 Postby THead » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:45 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
THead wrote:
gtalum wrote:The main concern for people in Tampa is to run from the surge. That's why I say find solid shelter on nearby high ground.

People generally aren't killed by wind damage.


Exactly, my point too. 80 miles or so to the inland east coast, will be better than facing the surge threat and the higher winds at landfall. I'm in a sturdy, high spot here, not going anywhere.


6 people were killed in S Florida directly due to Cat 1 winds in Katrina.


Yeah, that's what happens in a populated area like this. Lets say you have Wilma, a Cat 4 bearing down on Naples, would you rather be there or in fort lauderdale? And you could get to Ft Laud in about an hour, if you decided to leave at or near the last minute.
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#753 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:45 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:When will we see models with the sampled air and Data includedand updated??


Correct me if I'm wrong experts, but it will be the 0000Z run for 10/20 I think. It will take 4 hours to collect, sort and update the models. Too bad we can't run atmospheric collection samples over the Midwest to get exact readings on the lows....
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#754 Postby ericinmia » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:47 pm

Hmm... here is the New 00z NOGAPS from the rapid update site.
It hasn't run any further than this yet...

That has it going further into the gulf? at least so far... :eek:

<img src="http://www.197358246.com/chart-image.gif">

BTW... is there any way to NOT have the webpage ruin 'scrunch' every image?
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#755 Postby johngaltfla » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:49 pm

ericinmia wrote:Hmm... here is the New 00z NOGAPS from the rapid update site.
It hasn't run any further than this yet...

That has it going further into the gulf? at least so far... :eek:

<img src="http://www.197358246.com/chart-image.gif">

BTW... is there any way to NOT have the webpage ruin 'scrunch' every image?


That model run is very, very, very, very depressing. :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#756 Postby Scorpion » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:50 pm

That model run is good news.... means a more northern landfall point.
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#757 Postby Bgator » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:50 pm

ericinmia wrote:Hmm... here is the New 00z NOGAPS from the rapid update site.
It hasn't run any further than this yet...

That has it going further into the gulf? at least so far... :eek:

<img src="http://www.197358246.com/chart-image.gif">

BTW... is there any way to NOT have the webpage ruin 'scrunch' every image?

That doesnt look right can i have link!? and model should be out till 2am earliest!
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#758 Postby jkt21787 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:51 pm

Not necessarily. Let's wait for the run to finish first. It could hook SHARPLY to the right and still show Southern FL.
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#759 Postby floridahurricaneguy » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:51 pm

00z I think is whats going put tampa more at risk. Looking scary.

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#760 Postby n o o d l z » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:52 pm

I had a feeling this was coming...
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