Should the WMO/NHC add X, Y and Z names to the lists?

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Should the WMO/NHC add X, Y and Z names to the lists?

#1 Postby gilbert88 » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:23 pm

I think they should try to elongate the list a little (a la EPAC) and also come up with a "special" list if a season goes beyond letter Z. I really don't like the greek letter thing, especially after confirming that they would be retired (honestly it makes very little sense, just like retiring TD numbers).
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#2 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:25 pm

there's not enough names for the 2 different basins is the problem. If we had the same names for both, some confusion may occur
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#3 Postby senorpepr » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:37 pm

I agree with Derek. It shouldn't happen. We've already seen people in here try to guess replacement names for the likely retirees this year and a lot of people either mess up the replacement name's origin, gender, or simply they choose a name that is either already on the EPAC list or is an Atlantic name for another year. (For example, a lot of people said 'Wendy' will be a good replacement for Wilma, but Wendy is already an Atlantic name). If we have this many problems with more common letters, imagine the pain with Q, U, X, Y, or Z.
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#4 Postby P.K. » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:59 pm

I've had a lot of people ask me this question now. The met department here is even suggesting we come up with our own list for the next ten possible TSs to form this season, although I'm happy using the Greek letters.
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#5 Postby dhweather » Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:23 pm

How about corporate sponsorhip? :lol:

Hurricane Staples - that was easy

Hurricane Home Depot - you can do it, we can help

Hurricane JC Penny - it's all inside
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#6 Postby WindRunner » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:22 pm

dhweather wrote:How about corporate sponsorhip? :lol:

Hurricane Staples - that was easy

Hurricane Home Depot - you can do it, we can help

Hurricane JC Penny - it's all inside


And then when one of those storms devastates an area, that company goes out of business . . . Nice plus!
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#7 Postby arkess7 » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:48 pm

WindRunner wrote:
dhweather wrote:How about corporate sponsorhip? :lol:

Hurricane Staples - that was easy

Hurricane Home Depot - you can do it, we can help

Hurricane JC Penny - it's all inside


And then when one of those storms devastates an area, that company goes out of business . . . Nice plus!



:roflmao:
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#8 Postby thermos » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:52 pm

You could use companies that are already busted... Hurricane Enron
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#9 Postby clambeau01 » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:19 pm

New names need to be added...why can't you use 2 names for each letter...It's only for ID purposes. So what if you had 2 names beginning with "A" etc...it's not like you would confuse the two...make the second storm of a particular letter alphabetized AFTER the first, e.g. ANN - 1st, AUDREY - 2nd (AN - AU)

That or just be done with it & go to numbers....what's in a name, or how bout "A rose by any other name is....."

It would take away the "fun" of painting plywood boards with "Go away 5" but other than that, what's the name good for anyhow?

We have a TV weather guy up here who names Winter Storms with the names of surrounding towns and it just sounds so foolish. In fact, we don't even name our blizzards up here. They can be killers too.

If we continue naming storms by Greek alphabet the weather report is gonna sound like a Grade B War Movie..."Alpha-beta-Romeo-Foxtrot 745....I'm hit ! Over"
That's just plain silly.
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Which Hurricane Alpha do you mean ?

#10 Postby clambeau01 » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:23 pm

We keep this up, a few years down the road, we'll hear this conversation.

Do you mean Alpha of '05, Alpha '06 or Alpha '07 ?
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Re: Which Hurricane Alpha do you mean ?

#11 Postby gilbert88 » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:37 pm

clambeau01 wrote:We keep this up, a few years down the road, we'll hear this conversation.

Do you mean Alpha of '05, Alpha '06 or Alpha '07 ?


If we have our third TS Alpha on 2007, we're in for three really scary years.
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#12 Postby SamSagnella » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:13 am

I think we should go to the WPAC naming system of one continuous list...like instead of 'Alpha' we just go to the 'A' name for next year and so on and so forth.

That way we never run out of names.
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#13 Postby 100feettstormsurge » Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:30 am

How about a 7th auxiliary list of names starting with 'a' that would be used whenever we get past 'w'. The aux. list wouldn't even have to go to 'w', just maybe to 'j'. That would make ten additional names to make a total of 31, enough for even the busiest seasons. And you could replace a name on the aux. list with another name if ever necessary.
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#14 Postby HurryKane » Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:37 am

dhweather wrote:How about corporate sponsorhip? :lol:

Hurricane Staples - that was easy

Hurricane Home Depot - you can do it, we can help

Hurricane JC Penny - it's all inside


Tee hee.

Or, Hurricane Morton Salt - When it rains, it pours!
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#15 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:46 am

We all have to remember that it took 72 years to even have this issue come up! It really isn't much worth arguing. The rarity of a year with an excess of 21 storms is enough of a reason not to worry about the naming of additional storms. People... this is the first time this has ever happened and the liklihood it will ever happen again in your lifetime is slim. So what if you have to debate which storm... Alpha 2005 or Alpha 2065??? -It isn't likely anyway.
I say we just keep doing what we are doing.
And whoever said there aren't many names hasn't picked up a baby name book lately... there are easily tens of thousands of names with many multicultural possibilities.
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#16 Postby stormspotter » Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:46 am

dhweather wrote:How about corporate sponsorhip? :lol:

Hurricane Staples - that was easy

Hurricane Home Depot - you can do it, we can help

Hurricane JC Penny - it's all inside


Serial Killers names would be more appropriate.
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#17 Postby 100feettstormsurge » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:35 pm

Anyone who thinks this issue isn't worth arguing should at least wait until we see what happens in '06.
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#18 Postby mtm4319 » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:57 pm

I think there's more than a miniscule possibility we'll see another year with 22 or more named storms in the next 10 to 20 years.

The only other viable option I can see other than using the Greek alphabet is to use a second set of names -- backup names, if you will. Surely you wouldn't need more than eight per year -- enough to get through the letter H (not as many names begin with the letters I, J, and K). A sample list:

Aidan
Brianna
Colby
Dina
Ezra
Fallon
Greg
Harold

If Aidan is retired, replace it with Aaron.


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml

It looks like the Philippines use this method.
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#19 Postby James » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:15 pm

I think Greg is already a name in the E. Pacific. I'm not nitpicking the idea by the way, I'm just saying.
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#20 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:20 pm

I am curious as to why the use of numbers for Tropical cyclones was discontinued. does anyone know why? It makes a lot more sense to me to have something like ATL1 ATL2...or EPAC1....
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